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    Speaking in Uknown Tongues

    John, If I may attempt to shed a little more light on the "unknown" aspect of your question. As NN said, the word used for tongue here (glossa) referred axiomatically to a language but also carried the connotation speaking in a language that was not one's native language. Culturally, "unknown" is bound up in the word itself. When you rewind to Acts 2 where the first instance of speaking in tongues is found, a different word is used--dialektos, from which we get dialect--that was usually accompanied by a region or ethnic group that specified the origin of the language. Thus, dialektos implied a language of known origin whereas glossa implied a language of unknown origin from the perspective of the speaker/writer. That is to say, they refer to actual language spoken by existing people/people groups.
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    The End is Near!

    Farmers Fred and Luke were fishing on the side of the road. They made a sign saying "The End is Near! Turn yourself around now before it's too late!," and showed it to each passing car. One driver that passed didn't appreciate the sign and shouted, "Leave us alone you religious nuts!" All of a sudden they heard a big splash. Fred grinned at Luke. "Do you think we should just put up a sign that says: 'Bridge Out' instead?"
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    Vehicular Prayer Request

    Hi., ho, all! Just a request for prayer. We have, currently, three vehicles down for repairs. My F150, my staple farm truck, just went down with transmission issues, my Ford Ranger still won't run, (given to me after sitting for eight years), and we have a Jeep being worked on, hopefully with everything bought and mostly done, as far as we know, but with my wife going one way to work and me going the other, it makes life difficult. I also am way overdue for a trip to the auction and my goats are eating me out of house and home, but our Tempo won't haul the trailer. So finally got my tax return and have money, but repairs are going slow. So if you might spare us a moment, would you send up a prayer that we can get a vehicle or two running soon? And please, no Ford jokes-they have actually run long and strong more than I would have thought. And considering I traded my 73 Gran Torino for my pick-up, I try to take care of it. I miss that car!
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    Comment On Current Debate

    ​ false·hoodˈfôlsˌho͝od/noun the state of being untrue."the truth or falsehood of the many legends that surround her"a lie.plural noun: falsehoodssynonyms:lie, untruth, fib, falsification, fabrication, invention, fiction, story, cock-and-bull story, flight of fancy; More lying."the right to sue for malicious falsehood"synonyms:lying, mendacity, untruthfulness, fibbing, fabrication, invention, perjury,telling stories; Rather than use the word "falsehood" which implies a person is a liar, would not it be better to say, a person is in error which does not imply ill will on there part? un·be·liefˌənbəˈlēf/noun lack of religious belief; an absence of faith.another term for disbelief.Stating a person is in a state of unbelief just because they don't agree with you might also not be a good idea.
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    Back on OB

    Howdy everyone. It's been about a year since I last logged on here for anything other than to respond to a personal message, but I think a lot of you may remember me. I feel much refreshed after my time away and the environment looks to have cooled off a bit. Life also got a lot busier while I was away, so I don't know if I'll be able to contribute as much as I did, but I'm looking forward to some thoughtful discussions again.
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    Brethren, I would like to propose that we have some better internet etiquette, or ‘Netiquette,’ standards for posting on OnLine Baptist. In my experience some of the folks who are adversarial to a subject that I hold close to my heart will use improper, or unwarranted, methods of large font, highly colored backgrounds, and the twisting of my words to take my words out of context. These improper methods of using the fonts, quotes, color highlighting, is used to browbeat, intimidate, and bully others so they will not respond. Also, in my experience, they have used these methods, especially taking words out of context, to slander my character, actions, and belittle my postings. In my estimation, they are also designed to intimidate others from following my (and others), postings and threads. The following is few of the internet etiquette standards that I found on the internet with the appropriate links to the site quoted are for your consideration. Internet Etiquette, or, Netiquette, Standards. OnLine Baptist Do not make needless, incessant usage of:a) ALL-CAPS; Wikipedia “Another rule is to avoid typing in all caps or grossly enlarging script for emphasis, which is considered to be the equivalent of shouting or yelling.”[1] Kim Tranter When typing never write in all capital letters. That is shouting. People don’t like it when you shout at them in person. And they sure don’t like when you shout at them on the net! 2. Don’t plagiarize. Someone spent a long time coming up with their content. When you borrow something from someone, give them the credit. Site their name or their site. Give the site when you have gotten your information. 3. Use proper quotes and always use the whole quote. Don’t take quotes out of context and don’t be selective about which part of the quote you want to use. 4. Don’t gossip and keep personal information personal. Don’t tell stories that you don’t know for a fact to be true. And often, just because it’s true, doesn’t mean that it needs to be repeated. [2] Forum Netiquette Do not write in ALL CAPS. ALL CAPS is considered rude for various reasons. It’s the online equivalent of shouting. It’s also hard to read. If you use ALL CAPS, it is impolite to other users and will create a very poor impression. Avoid colored backgrounds, images, large files, and excessive HTML.[3] Griffith University Don't shout at people or threaten them. Don't use all capital letters, (UPPERCASE), or oversized fonts. The reader will likely feel they are being shouted at, or even threatened. If you must use UPPERCASE, use it very sparingly and only to emphasize a particularly important point. Ask yourself, 'if I was talking to the recipient face to face, would I be raising my voice to them?' One way to add emphasis is to enclose the word/phrase with an asterisk, for example "It is *important* not to shout at people by using UPPERCASE". Large sized fonts (greater than 12) are useful for people with visual impairment, but are not appropriate for general use.[4] The Golden Rule The Lord Jesus said, “Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for his is the law and the prophets.” Matthew 7:12 [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etiquette_in_technology [2] http://www.uticaod.com/article/20120907/BLOGS/309079938 [3] http://www.grantham.edu/promo/forum_netiquette.php [4] http://www.ict.griffith.edu.au/~davidt/email_etiquette.htm
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    I was wondering what others thoughts on using a cross as a decoration and symbol of Christian faith in our homes. Not a crucifix. I also have little figurines. One of Jesus tending sheep. Another of praying hands. I had picture of Jesus, not a long haired one. I like to see things around me that constantly remind me of my faith. None of it is worshiped in any way of course. When new people visit, if they're Christians they'll ask me how long I've been saved or if I'm a Christian. I think that when non-believers visit they are reminded of Jesus. I have bible verses as decals above my pictures also.
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    Comment On Current Debate

    ​Huh? Proper internet etiquette? Where'd you pick this up? I have been on the internet for only 6 or 7 years, I guess I'm a 'babe' at it, but have never heard of this. I thought bold lettering was for emphasis, as well as italics, and color was for defining a separation when replying to another's quote. What is wrong with that? And as for some being 'afraid' because of how we 'type' out things, that is just your imagination.
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    Hi, Olivia! Thanks for your question; I hope we can answer it satisfactorily! Baptism is one of the ordinances in the Baptist church (the other being the Lord's supper, or communion). An ordinance differs from the sacraments of the Catholic church in that a sacrament by definition is believed to impart saving grace, whereas an ordinance (something ordained) is something that God has commanded us to observe, as a point of obedience. The Bible says in Ephesians 2:8-9, "For by grace ye are saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast." Romans 10:8b-10 says: "...that is, the word of faith, which we preach; That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." Because of these verses, we believe that salvation cannot be earned by works of righteousness, sacraments, or anything similar. Salvation occurs when a person trusts that Christ has completely taken the punishment for their sins when He died on the cross (Romans 5:8), believes He is Who the Bible says He is (the perfect, sinless Son of God who died and rose again from the dead [John 1:29]), and stops trusting their own works to earn them righteousness (Titus 3:5). When a person so trusts Christ, God will, by His grace, freely give them salvation (John 3:16). Thus, baptism cannot bring salvation, and is not necessary to be accepted by God. We baptize because God commanded it (as an ordinance), and it is the first step of obedience for a new believer to do after they receive salvation. This is why we baptize people when they are older, and not babies. Babies are too little to choose to trust Christ in such a manner. Baptism is a picture of what Christ did for us - he died, was buried, and rose again - and the Bible says that God identifies us (in a spiritual sense) with what Christ has done for us. Colossians 2 talks about this, and I would encourage you to read it for better understanding. This view is reinforced by 1 Peter 3:21. This says: "The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ." This verse is a little confusing because of the word 'save', which we usually take to refer to salvation from hell. It's actually talking about a different kind of saving - and we can see that by the verse itself, which tells us that baptism does not 'put away the filth of the flesh', but is 'the answer of a good conscience toward God. We baptize by immersion for a couple of reasons. One, the original Greek word "baptizeo" means "to immerse". Secondly, Jesus was baptized by immersion in the Jordan. Thirdly, and most importantly, baptism by immersion pictures the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ. What happens when someone dies? We bury them. We don't just sprinkle some dirt on their head. Now, as far as the ceremony... well, it requires water. Lots of it. Details may vary by congregation, but there are several basic parts that are always present. Since baptism must follow salvation, the pastor will ask the person being baptized to share their testimony with the congregation. The pastor has probably already heard the testimony, as there are often classes offered before the baptism ceremony to teach and ensure that the participants understand what they are about to do, but the testimony is shared publicly as baptism is to be a public testimony of one's faith in Jesus Christ. Once the individual and the pastor are in the water, they will get in position for the baptism (this often involves crossing the arms to give the pastor a good place to grasp & holding one's nose, while the pastor braces himself to lower and lift the person into and out of the water). They are then baptized "in the name of the Father, Son, & Holy Ghost." In my church, while lowering the person into the water, my pastor would say something like this: "Upon your confession of faith in Jesus Christ, I baptize you, my (brother/sister), in the name of the Father, Son & Holy Ghost. Buried in the likeness of His death; raised in the likeness of His resurrection." Then we'll often sing a hymn as a congregation to give them a chance to get changed into dry clothes. There are no special symbols/colors shown. Baptism itself is the important symbol, picturing as it does the work of salvation that Christ has already finished! That's why He said, when He died, "It is finished." Everything necessary for our salvation was completed. No more sacrifices, masses, works, or anything is required - and indeed - if we trust such 'works of righteousness' to help earn us salvation, then we are not trusting Christ alone as our Savior. And it is only when we trust Christ alone that God will give us His salvation. Hebrews 10:10-15 "By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool. For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified." Best of wishes on your assignment! Sarah Andrews
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    Comment On Current Debate

    Thanks Pilgrim, Alan's denunciation of Geneva was for a quotation of Scripture that supported his comment. Geneva could have added 1 Peter 2:9-10 which confirms that Hosea was understood by Peter and Paul to be being fulfilled by the Gospel. Also, Peter understood the "holy nation" prophecy of Exo. 19:5-6 as being fulfilled in the people he was writing to - the first century church of Jew and Gentile believers. Remember it's all to be fulfilled in 70 weeks - Calvary being the central event.
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    ​Amen! Let's just do what our Lord told us to do, get the Word out, and quit arguing about how God does His work. A question: Did Jesus sit and argue for hours with anyone or did he state the case and let the Father and the Holy Spirit do the work from that point?
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    ​This in itself would be worthy of exploration if such were possible without it becoming just another battleground. I've heard one pastor touch upon this but he mostly raised questions which he never got around to offering any possible answers for. Why is it that two (or more) very similar people can hear a sermon and one is fully convicted, repents and is born again while the other(s) are not? Why do some people spend their lives in a church where the Gospel is preached and are never born again yet a career criminal on his umpteenth sentence in prison hears the Gospel once and is born again? Why are some people rebellious from an early age and even tho they know the Word, say they want to follow Jesus, but continually choose the world instead? Why do we see one person get saved and then their whole family saved shortly after but then other families where the whole family turns against the one saved? Why do see the Gospel ridiculed and rejected to quickly here but in some parts of the world the people willingly give up all to follow Jesus? Many other questions could be considered but all too often when such is brought up it seems trite answers are quickly put forth and the subject changed or the one asking finds their faith, or even salvation, questioned for asking such questions. Why do we think we can, or must, know everything when there is no record of any mere man having ever achieved such?
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    Comment On Current Debate

    ​Uh, Romans 9:22-26? The only future 'restoration' has already occurred. It was future from Hosea's time of preaching, but the past and present from our point in time. 22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: 23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory, 24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles? 25 As he saith also in Osee, I will call them my people, which were not my people; and her beloved, which was not beloved. 26 And it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people; there shall they be called the children of the living God.
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    When I've thought about it, in my mind I've not been able to reconcile God having foreknowledge of men's ways and God being the creator of men, without arriving at the conclusion that God determines men's ways. But the Bible appears to say clearly that God is not the agent of men's thoughts and decisions. So I don't try to reconcile them. I think Calvinism is an attempt to answer some tricky philosophical questions, including some that other theological 'systems' do not touch, such as why there exists some people who are inclined to accept Christ and some who are incined not to accept Christ. But, I think Calvinism arrives at the wrong answers and I'm not inclined to accept them just because I don't have alternative answers. But I think some folk are tempted by Calvinism precisely because it does purport to provide a 'theory of everything'. Just my view...
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    Please pray for Stoffel family

    Erin was released from the hospital. She is with her children and family. Praise the Lord for her recovery.
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