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  1. It really does depend on the details of the situation. We ought to OBey God rather than man, this is certain. But then we have: 1Pe 3:1 Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any OBey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives; By being in subjection to her husband he may be won. Personally I thing it needs to be considered in this light - if there is the chance to win him, then OBedience to him becomes prime - BUT the wife needs to visibly live for the Lord in every way she can whilst being OBedient. But I also think some situations demand OBeying the Lord in church attendance - it depends on the attitude of the man. But in either case the wife needs to submit in every way she can, and maintain a Godly testimony.
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  2. I normally would just send a PM but I would like to thank DaveW, Winman and others for speaking out against Calvinism. It is finding it's way into our churches and schools. We need to speak out boldly against these false teachings and not allow it to get it's foot in the door.
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  3. No, I am pointing out that he is moving from Biblical fact to speculation when he bases a doctrine on words like "prOBably". He is trying to argue that David being conceived in sin is because "he prOBably was from Jesse's second wife." If he showed biblical proof of it then fine, but he did not. I showed in two simple verses a basic run down - he responded with speculative argument. I am not going to argue against speculation with more speculation. By the way he responded to me by saying that what I posted was false and unsupported by Scripture. Who exactly is accusing without Addressing the post?
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  4. Rom 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: Death came upon all men when Adam introduced sin into the world - because of this all men have sinned. That is Biblically plain - all men are sinners because Adam sinned, and we are his children. However; Gal 4:4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, Notice that His Son was made "of a woman". The Virgin birth is essential because the Bible indicates that the sin nature is passed through the man - part of God's defined authority structure. Jesus had no earthly father and therefore no inherent sin nature. Sin was neither within Him, nor did He sin of Himself.
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  5. Calvinism is founded on deception. Calvinist preachers will declare to unbelievers that Jesus died for "sinners", for the purpose of giving that person the false impression Jesus died for them personally, when the Calvinist preacher has no way to know if Jesus died for that person or not. Calvinists constantly play word games with people like this. If a Calvinist preacher was honest, he would tell people that Jesus only died for "some" sinners, and that he has no idea who those persons are. His listeners MIGHT be one of the fortunate people Jesus died for, but the higher prOBability is that they are not. And if a Calvinist preacher was REALLY forthcoming, he would tell you he is not even sure he is one of the fortunate elect. He thinks he is because he believes NOW, but he must endure and persevere to his last breath to know for sure. Even then he cannot know if his works were good enough to qualify him as a true believer. Truth is, a Calvinist cannot even know if he believes. A Calvinist is taught that an unregenerate person cannot understand or perform anything spiritual, so he has no idea what REAL saving belief is. Spiritual matters are all a big mystery to the Calvinist. Do I really believe? Who knows? How can I know? Calvinism is designed to cause a person to doubt, not believe.
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  6. He is a Bible corrector and a Calvinist...nothing challenging for me....
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  7. We read of Jews in the OT sacrificing their children to false gods. To radical Islamists, they view the sacrifice of their own people in a similar fashion. Throughout history various peoples have sacrificed their own children whether outright or by selling them, leaving them in the woods to die, etc. Today, here in "Christian America" we sacrifice children through abortion for the sake of convenience which is even lower than those who wrongly think they are doing so for some greater purpose such as to appease or win the favor of some god (false). It will indeed be so wonderful to finally be with Jesus and be freed from all this wickedness.
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  8. My sister goes to a charasmatic church. She speaks in tongues (the spiritual language modern day tongues). She has shown me every scripture that she's been taught, mostly the ones in Acts and 1 Corinthians. I went through them with her and showed how it was unbiblical. She now sees in scripture but is so conditioned to 20 years experience. I can sympathize with her because I used to go to a charasmatic church but it started to make me question and feel uncomfortable. When I studied and searched for the truth in scripture, I didn't care about my experience. We are not to trust ourselves, our feelings or our experiences if it is against the Word. Of course I've been praying for her and I still think she is saved and a Christian but just in error. What else can I tell her? Especially because she feels deceived and can't understand what she's been doing all these years. Any advice or suggestions? Thanks in advance.
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  9. There is no argument that Jesus was from the line of David - it is plainly so. But He was so through his mother, as He had no physical father. This is why your whole argument is irrelevant - there was no direct physical father of Jesus for the sin nature to be passed through - which is PRECISELY why the Bible says Jesus was "made of a woman".
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  10. Psa 138:8 The LORD will perfect that which concerneth me: thy mercy, O LORD, endureth for ever: forsake not the works of thine own hands.
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  11. The actual issue is that David must still have had a father and a mother does not conceive alone. The father's seed must be present - your speculation of another mother is irrelevant in the argument. David, like all men, was conceived in sin - this is the natural reading of the passage. And it fits with the verses I posted previously.
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  12. The word "perfect" can also mean complete. The Word of God was completed - perfected if you will - with the closing words of John. Completing - or perfecting - the Revelation of God to man in His Word - no need of further special prophecy or further special revelation.
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  13. I do know the word of God says that if we say we are without/have no sin (and that would mean at anytime in our lives as well as right now this instant) we make God a liar and his word is not in us. 1John 1:8, 10 ¶ If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. . . . If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. Also the Bible says this, Romans 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. before we were ever born God said we were sinners and that Christ dies for us. Is it so hard to see/believe that men are born in sin, that they have a sin nature?
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  14. Unsupported by the Scriptures? Hmmmmmm I thought Romans 5:12 and Galatians 4:4 were in the Bible??? I guess I will have to go and look again.....
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  15. DaveW

    Speaking In Tongues

    1Co 13:8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. Tongues have ceased.
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  16. Why aren't we so vociferous over attacks across our southern border? Drug cartels, gangs, Mexican police, border patrol and military have all fired upon our agents on the border. A flood of illegals is invading the country (and they know they are invading) and among these illegals are street gangs, agents of the drug cartels and various terrorists. Why do we raise more of a fuss over what's going on between Israel and Hamas than we do over what's going on in America (or even other countries which are facing similar invasions)? Especially when we know the Israeli government will take action while our own government aids and exacerbates our prOBlems. While there are armed conflicts going on in scores of countries around the world, why focus upon supposed atrocities committed by Israel when their enemy drew first blood, purposefully put their own civilians in harms way and reject cease fires that Israel accepts, even while actual atrocities are being committed in vast numbers elsewhere and very purposefully; even to the point of intended genocide and elimination of those of other religions? Considering the dismal performance of most of our own governments and their mismanagement of our nations, likely to their not too distant ruin, we should get our own houses in order rather than tossing stones at the houses of others.
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  17. DaveW

    Blood Moon Tonight

    What you did IS disrespectful to the OP. The rest of what you said here is just another example of your twisting of facts to fit your own false theology. Israel stops the fight - Hamas keeps firing rockets. I hope you would be happy to have some of these "largely harmless" rockets fired into your area...... Act of defiance? Hardly - act of war - absolutely. And aimed directly and ONLY at civilian centre's. But you keep on ignoring the facts - it appears to make you happy.
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  18. So John, if a Calvinist is clearly not interested in discussion we should just ignore him and let him post his trash without anyone pointing out the error?
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  19. But I have seen sinfulness at work in infants. they are growing beings and as such exhibit manipulative selfish ways. They learn very quickly that when they cry someone will come and pick them up. Oftentimes they seem to be crying for no reason, they were fed, they are not sick, and they have not dirtied themselves. They just want to be picked up. Nothing wrong with that except when you can't get anything done because they kid keeps crying for no reason other than wanting to be picked up. That is the natural propensity to self centered sin that is in them from birth.
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  20. Psalms 58:3 (KJV) 3 The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.
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  21. The Bible says that Felix, "reasoned of temperance, righteousness, and judgment to come". Those three things are the "convincing" of the Holy Ghost who, the Bible also says, is God. So I would say, yes, it was God's will that Felix repent and believe the Gospel. But it was Felix who made the choice to say "go and come again at a more convenient time". To answer your question: Yes sir I believe Jesus died on the cross for every sin committed by and every atrocity ordered by Adolf Hitler. If Hitler is in Hell right this minute, it is because Hitler refused his last opportunity to repent of those sins and rejected Jesus. It was Hitler's choice. And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. 1 John 2:2 He is also the propitiation for your sin of teaching ''Calvinism''. But you, yourself make that choice not to repent of it. Repent means to "turn against" or "turn away".
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  22. 1Cor 10:13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.
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  23. Considering that at least 90% of "Calvinists" I've ever known became so after salvation and study of the Word, and the fact "Calvinism" is growing (at least here in America), it seems a different approach might be beneficial for those who feel led to speak out against "Calvinism". First of all, an approach of compassion with the goal of helping one understand Scripture would be much preferable to the most often used goal of name calling, denouncing, telling others what they think, and coming across as arrogant and only wanting to prove themselves right and others wrong (that approach serves no one). As Paul said, even if we are doing something seemingly right, if we are doing so without love it's meaningless. Secondly, it would be helpful knowing who to engage in such discussions and when; as well as who to disengage from. There are some "Calvinists" who are only interested in arguing, only interested in proving their position right and others wrong. There is no point in arguing with these and there can be no discussion with them. Best to move on from them rather than risking casting pearls before swine. Those "Calvinists" who are open to biblically consider the issue are the ones that should be focused upon. We aren't going to convince others to our position by conducting ourselves as uncaring brutes. We all too often forget about the important points of love, kindness, gentleness and such which the Lord can use to great effect when accompanied by His Word. Third, we should remember it's the Holy Ghost that convicts, opens minds, softens hearts and transforms. We are to simply speak the truth in love and allow the Holy Ghost to do His work. It's not up to us to change others through our own force, loudness, brilliance of communication or any such thing. Fourth, we need to be in much prayer and paying attention to the Spirit's leading so we can rightly do the other points. These are all common biblical points we are called to live by regardless of the subject at hand. This doesn't only apply to aspects regarding "Calvinism" but to all things whether divorce, dress standards, alcohol, homosexuality, hair length, church leadership, etc.
    1 point
  24. Invicta

    Blood Moon Tonight

    When I was at school, over 60 years ago, we learnt that large red moons occurred when the moon was low on the horizon and caused by the deflection and the dust of the atmosphere.
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  25. DaveW

    Heresy ?

    No you're wrong - spam is tinned meat.
    1 point
  26. DaveW

    Heresy ?

    So you feel it is right to take over someone else's thread and basically spam it with a multitude of posts??????
    1 point
  27. why even waste your time reading this guys stuff when it says right on top of his page "reformed"?
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  28. Why is so much posting done on Calvinism? We should all know it's not Biblical by now. Personally, I don't think any Reformed Baptists/Calvinists should NOT even be allowed on this site. All it does is cause confusion and take time and energy from things that ARE of the Lord.
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  29. Ephesians 2:14-15 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us; Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace; Both are one in Christ. The Gentiles were grafted into the vine. No such thing as a Church of the Jews and Church of the Gentiles. Christ has ONE BODY, not two. The Church that existed before Acts 10 did not remain a separate Church from the Gentiles.... it was one universal Body.
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  30. No one considers it a sin when a dog barks. if a dog did not bark, you would think something is wrong with that dog, not right. Likewise, when we sin, it is considered wrong. You feel guilty for it. We all expect each other to do right. Sin is not natural for us, it is unnatural.
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  31. The fact is, scripture teaches that Jesus had the same nature as us. Heb 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; 15 And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage. 16 For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham. 17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people. 18 For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted. Most people believe the sin nature resides in the flesh. If so, then Jesus would have had a sin nature, because he took part of "the same" flesh and blood as us. Jesus also took upon himself the "nature" of "the seed of Abraham". So, if Abraham and his seed were born with a sinful nature, then so was Jesus. Jesus was made like his brethren the Jews in "all things". If the Jews were born with a sin nature, then so was Jesus. Jesus did not have a sin nature, and neither did we at first. We were made upright, but all of us became sinful when we chose to sin.
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  32. The fact that we all sin does not prove we are born with a sin nature. Adam and Eve were created "very good", yet they sinned the first time they were tempted. Satan was perfect in his ways when he was created (as well as the fallen angels), yet they chose to sin. Eze 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee. People ASSUME because all men choose to sin that this proves we are born with a sin nature, but scripture PROVES this view false. The fact that we sin DOES NOT prove we are born with a sin nature, only that we have free will. In fact, scripture says God made man UPRIGHT. Ecc 7:29 Lo, this only have I found, that God hath made man upright; but they have sought out many inventions. Ecc 7:29 refutes Original Sin as it says God made men upright. The word "they" points back to the word "man" and shows this verse is speaking of all men, not Adam alone. The word "many" shows that men fall because of personal sin and not the single sin Adam committed in the garden. There is MUCH more, but this will do for a start.
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  33. Wrong, beammeup. The Body of Christ started much earlier than that. Read Acts 2 Acts 2:47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved. Even in Philippians 3, Paul said that before His conversion he persecuted the Church. How could he have persecuted the Church if the Church did not exist until after Saul/Paul got saved?
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  34. I've been taking heat ever since I got saved. I have the most conservative music stance out of any Baptist I know and it gets me heat all the time. of course being KJO as well.
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  35. I'm starting to do my own critical thinking on it.
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  36. You will change your mind in time. Sometime when we both have time I will present scripture that will prove it to you.
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  37. Dave W. I did. :-) That one sure blew my mind the first time I read it. I think I showed her every possible thing I could show her in scripture. The hard part is helping her get over the experience. For me, I just stopped believing once I sought after and learned the truth. She hasn't said it but I think she is struggling with thinking why God would allow her to be deceived. The only words of comfort I can offer is to be thankful that now she knows the truth. She just has to decide now what she will do with that truth.
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