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  1. 4 points
    I try to see it, but it sounds so confusing to see what you and others see in these verses. I have been a believer in Jesus Christ since 1987, and have read the Bible over 20 times through and I have never seen some of the 'teachings' people put on this forum. If God is not the author of confusion, like we all believe, how can things like the differences between us, like this subject, exist? (That might make another good thread I guess.) When we discuss this subject, and I accept it as discussion, (even though we 'argue' somewhat.), I see so much misalignment of scriptures, that I just wanna give up trying to understand it; even to learn what you all are saying, so I can disagree. I appreciate everyone's view on here, even when I vehemently disagree. Sorry for any bad attitude from me, and I covet your prayers. I am learning.
  2. 4 points
    Covenanter

    Why I Left The Pre-Trib Position

    AVBB you've missed a few Scriptures - Luke - the message to the shepherds, the prayer of Simeon, Jesus' ministry at Nazareth, his commission to the Apostles, John - the conversation at the well, the message to the Greeks who wanted to see Jesus, Acts - Jesus' reply when the Apostles asked about the kingdom.... The truth is that Messiah had to come through Abraham .... David to fulfil prophecy, and minister to the people of Israel, in order to accomplish salvation for ALL nations as promised to Abraham. Salvation was never exclusive to Israel, many Gentiles were numbered with Israel when they believed - Matthew 1 includes notable Gentile women. Now, AVBB show your own repentance by acknowledging your errors.
  3. 3 points
    John81

    Why I Left The Pre-Trib Position

    Regardless of your perceived "direct revelation" (that's something I typically only hear from Charismatics and a few Pentecostals), it's the small handful of wrongly dividing dispensationalists who insist on separating the Word of God, warping its meaning and bringing confusion and chaos into the mix that are out of line with the Word of God.
  4. 3 points
    Our people once set high standards but now we seek the lowest common denominator in order to make everyone "feel" equal and make everyone as alike as possible. Over half of Americans receive some form of government "welfare". If we count what is known as "corporate welfare" that percentage rises dramatically. With no one expecting high standards the masses OBlige and sink to dismal standards in nearly every category. We have high school graduates who can barely read at a pre-school level, women (and even girls) who see nothing wrong in using their sexuality to get what they want, to manipulate people, or just for fun, men (and boys) who think it's okay to use and abuse women for fun, corporations with no national loyalty, no concern for their customers or the quality of their products, people who would be willing to kill a human in order to save an eagle egg while calling abortion a "choice" and the baby a blOB of nothing, generations who only do enough to "get by", many with no greater ambition than to make it through the week so they can get drunk and enjoy a sin filled weekend, morality and religion seen as weaknesses or personal choices of little consequence since "all religion is the same" and "what's right for me is all that matters". In the Western nations Christianity has been and is being specifically rejected in favor of secular humanism, religion mixing or accepting any religion except Christianity. Our light shines brightest in the darkness but it also makes us a more clear target.
  5. 2 points
    2bLikeJesus

    Whats for Supper...

    Someone told me today to "stuff it" sooooo...tonight its Stuffed Cornish Game Hens, Cheddar and Pico stuffed Mushrooms, and baked potato with all the stuffings. After the Strawberry Shortcake for dessert, I am sure I will be stuffed.
  6. 2 points
    Bro K

    Need A Bake....

    Goes to show what good old hard physical work will do.
  7. 2 points
    282Mikado

    Looking For A College

    I'm not all that surprised. First, most of these are private colleges so get little to no state funding. Second, have you heard most High School graduates speak these days? College English Departments pretty much have to start from scratch.
  8. 2 points
    It's a Gospel Tract of my salvation. It should be published later this year.
  9. 1 point
    Former Youth Pastor Accused of Giving Kids Alcohol, Drugs and Porn A former youth pastor has been charged with sex crimes involving young men at an Arkansas church. Larry Michael Berkley, who has pastored churches in Arkansas and Tennessee, is accused of providing children with alcohol, drugs and porn, and then sexually assaulting them while he was a pastor at Shiloh Baptist Church in Harrison, Arkansas, WREG Memphis reports. Berkley, 34, was arrested at a cemetery in Covington, Tennessee, Monday afternoon after finishing a funeral service. Police in Harrison say the investigation into the former pastor began March 28, while he was a pastor at Shiloh Baptist. They interviewed more than a dozen male victims—all between the ages of 14 and 18—through mid-April. One victim said he went to Berkley’s house believing it was a Bible study. While there, he was allowed to drink and smoke marijuana and a hookah. Several victims said the pastor used to walk around naked, and he had sexual contact with them on more than one occasion. Harrison Police Chief Paul Woodruff said they believe the Arkansas church isn’t the first Berkley has targeted, reports KY3. “We’re pretty sure this isn’t the first time,” Woodruff said. “This is too in-depth. I think he’s been doing this for years.” Though Woodruff believes they have found all the victims in Harrison, he urges any others to come forward. “If there is another victim out there, or victims that we may have missed or this other group didn’t know about, please come forward, so we can try to get you some help with counseling and whatever else you may need,” he said. An employee at Shiloh Baptist also reported that at least $4,400 is missing. Berkley was allegedly supposed to use the money to make a payment on a mission trip. Berkley was senior pastor at Victory Baptist Church in Henning, Tennessee, 2 1/2 years ago. He was reportedly asked to leave the church, but no one at the church has said why.
  10. 1 point
    No Nicolaitans

    There Are No Little Churches

    I don't think the article was meant as a justification for having a small church; rather, it's simply to encourage men to continue in their labors despite the size. Sure it's psychology (though I don't like that word), and we all use psychology to an extent. Suppose someone has just had something terrible happen in their life...we say, "I understand", or "It'll be alright." When in fact, we often don't truly understand, and we don't know if it will truly be alright (humanly speaking). However, we're using psychology to try to help that person and encourage them. I was saved in a small church, there are no churches in my area that would be considered large by any means, and the largest churches that ARE in my area are full of false doctrine and teachings. If a church in a town of 1000 people has 50 people who attend, that's 5% of the population. However, if a church in an city of 2,000,000 people is a mega-church with 5000 people who attend, that's only 0.25% of the population. Therefore, the smaller church has reached a larger percentage of their area. 1 Corinthians 3:6-9 6 I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase. 7 So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase. 8 Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour. 9 For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building. If a man is doing what God has given him to do, he's doing it faithfully, and he's doing it biblically...don't fault the man because of the size of the church...fault God (if we dare) since he's the one who gives the increase.
  11. 1 point
    Where've you been TGL?
  12. 1 point
    Just one in a long line of Republicans we don't need running for president.
  13. 1 point
    Arbo

    Is Your Pastor Human?

    I am not sure that I buy it. He is too inconsistent with his errors.
  14. 1 point
    Arbo

    Is Your Pastor Human?

    Think: Too many beverages after the pot-induced munchies kick in.
  15. 1 point
    Arbo

    Is Your Pastor Human?

    Why the insult? Do you smoke pot, and I happened to make a comment that made you feel bad? Actually, it made me chuckle. It sounded like something a Polish friend of mine, who I have not seen in a long time, would say.
  16. 1 point
    John81

    Gop Leadership Shows True Self

    Walter Jones Repels a War Party Attack By Patrick J. Buchanan Friday - May 9, 2014 The GOP Beltway establishment is celebrating the victory of Thom Tillis, Speaker of the North Carolina House, over his Tea Party and Evangelical rivals in Tuesday's primary for the U.S. Senate. But the story ended less happily for the Beltway elite in the Tar Heel State's 3rd Congressional District. There, the planned purge of Rep. Walter Jones was repulsed by his loyal Republican base. Yet, this massively funded effort, to kill the career of a 20-year House veteran, whose father held the seat for decades before him, testifies eloquently to the intolerance of the ideological and monied elite of the party to which conservatives give allegiance. Reportedly, a million dollars of super PAC money poured into the 3rd, from Republicans, in support of a brazen Big Lie campaign to paint Walter Jones as a liberal. But what is the Congressman's real record? In the Bush I era, he voted against No Child Left Behind. In the OBama years, he voted against OBamacare and the bailouts of the big banks, Wall Street and Detroit. He voted against cap and trade, and TARP, the trillion-dollar stimulus package. Jones voted against every increase in the debt ceiling in 10 years and refuses to vote for any U.S. budget not in balance. He stands against same-sex marriage, has a 100 percent rating from National Right to Life, and receives a consistent A from the NRA. A national organization opposing illegal immigration gives Jones an A+ for battling to secure America's borders and block amnesty. Camp Lejeune is in Jones' district, and he has received awards from every veterans organization from the American Legion to the Disabled American Veterans. FreedomWorks cited Jones last year as the most conservative member of the North Carolina delegation and one of the 10 most conservative members of the House. And he had the endorsement of Dot Helms, widow of conservative legend Jesse Helms. Why, then, was the Beltway elite so determined to destroy Jones that they spent a million dollars backing a Bush II apparatchik turned K Street lOBbyist who moved only last year to the district? Why was the War Party determined to kill Walter Jones? First, Jones has voted for years to end foreign aid, a capital crime to the Israeli lOBby AIPAC. Second, though Jones was so pro-war in 2003 that when France opposed the U.S. invasion of Iraq he had the House dining room rename French fries "freedom fries," when the caskets began to come home he starting having second thoughts. Walter Jones came to believe that voting to send Americans to fight and die in Iraq was the worst mistake of his career. So now Rep. Jones spends hours each weekend writing personal letters to every family that lost a son or daughter in a war he wrongly supported. And he has resolved to oppose every idiotic war into which his country is being stampeded. Walter Jones is a pro-peace conservative, a principled patriot who votes his convictions, puts his country first, and refuses to take dictation from the War Party. And that is why the War Party front, the "Emergency Committee for Israel," chaired by Bill Kristol, leading tub-thumper for a war that cost 4,500 American lives, funneled hundreds of thousands into attack ads in one Congressional District in North Carolina to kill the career of one congressman. And that is why Ending Spending Action Fund, a super PAC led by billionaire Joe Ricketts and backed by the Macau-Vegas casino mogul Sheldon Adelson, dumped scores of thousands into the 3rd District to deceive voters into believing that Walter Jones is a liberal. Describing the Beltway coalition that tried to end the career of Rep. Jones, Ronald Reagan's Budget Director David Stockman writes: "The whole Bush White House crowd that destroyed the GOP's commitment to fiscal discipline, bailed-out Wall Street and GM and launched disastrous wars ... joined the attack. The heavy artillery included ... Karl Rove, former Governor and RNC chair Haley Barber and the War Party's highly paid chief PR flack, Ari Fleischer." Consider what the GOP establishment and the Adelson-Kristol neocons are telling Republicans nationally with this wilding attack on a venerable veteran of the Republican House. They are saying: You can be for amnesty for illegal aliens, support same-sex marriage, be pro-choice on abortion, and you can still be welcome in our party. But oppose foreign aid or resist the War Party agenda, and you are a heretic who should and shall be purged. With this massive intervention in North Carolina, not to elect some outstanding new candidate, but to kill the career of one defiant dissenter, the GOP establishment is sending a message to the Republican base: Our "Big Tent" is not big enough to include Walter Jones. But if that is true of Walter Jones, what does that say to a nation that has come to agree with Walter Jones that America should mind her own business and stop fighting other countries' wars? Who is out of touch with America here? Read More At: http://buchanan.org/blog/walter-jones-repels-war-party-attack-6394
  17. 1 point
    Alimantado

    Is Your Pastor Human?

    Arbo wasn't even asking one question, TGL, let alone many. I've heard that pot can do things to one's reading and comprehension abilities. Just sayin', pops.
  18. 1 point
    I think TGL is meaning coming out as in announcing that he is running for POTUS.
  19. 1 point
    Bro K

    How To Be A True Christian Online....

    There is a previous thread along the line of this Subject. What I previous said still stands: 'I thought I had everyone fooled.'
  20. 1 point
    ThePilgrim

    Meat Sacrificed To Idols?

    Did you ever think you would see the day that meat sacrificed to idols would be an issue in Europe or America? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2623805/Our-shoppers-dont-care-meat-halal-claim-supermarkets-Retailers-face-backlash-saying-unnecessary-label-meats.html God bless, Larry
  21. 1 point
    ThePilgrim

    Meat Sacrificed To Idols?

    Yes, we do. Halal markets and restaurants. God bless, Larry
  22. 1 point
    282Mikado

    Looking For A College

    Unfortunately their price isn't conservative. $128K for a 4 year degree is well beyond the scope of this one income family.
  23. 1 point
    HappyChristian

    Looking For A College

    Here's another suggestion: http://www.hillsdale.edu/home Here's the course catalog: http://www.hillsdale.edu/file/academics/departments/registrar/2013-14-College-Catalog.pdf You'll have to scroll down quite a bit to get to the journalism section (page 184 on my computer). Their mission statement is: "The Herbert H. Dow II Program in American Journalism is devoted to "the restoration of ethical, high-minded journalism standards, and to the reformation of our cultural, political, and social practices. Through academic challenge and practical application, the Program seeks to educate students to become defenders of traditional values [meaning Judeo/Chistian], passing on to posterity the blessing of our American heritage and the legacy of First Principles intended by our Founding Fathers." I'll guarantee you won't find a more conservative school than Hillsdale. It is a private school. A total year costs around $31, 890. The cost breakdown is here: http://www.hillsdale.edu/aid/tuition. There is financial aid available: http://www.hillsdale.edu/aid http://www.hillsdale.edu/aid/scholarships http://www.hillsdale.edu/aid/apply http://www.hillsdale.edu/aid/student-employment Our church has sent folks up there from time to time for various classes they offer on the Constitution. I myself have taken some of their online courses. The only bad thing is that it is in Michigan (heheheh - sorry, had to say that. My hubby is a Buckeye).
  24. 1 point
    Heheh - I actually was privileged to attend mostly Christian schools. I did go to a couple of public schools, and when I was 4 to a non-Christian private school. But that was back many a year ago. In fact, the Christian school I went to from K-5 through grade 7 was one of the first in the nation. It is no longer Christian except in name only (if that) now. I am thankful that I was taught phonics during a time in the academic history of our nation that schools had dropped phonics and gone to sight reading. It made me a very good reader, with good comprehension skills, as well as a great speller (except when I use my phone to post on here ). History was truthfully presented (well, except about the Baptists...the reformed folks were the ones behind the Christian school movement, and so American history was taught from the perspective of Puritans being the ones who were responsible for our liberties, etc...simply not true!), science was creation based, and we had daily Bible classes, memory verses, chapel preaching, etc. The school was non-denominational with a Baptist bent. All the other Christian schools I went to were Baptist. The public schools I went to were not horrible, but they were not good, either. And they have just gotten worse...
  25. 1 point
    John81

    Family Salvation

    I see in the latest issue of Sword of the Lord they put forth a clarifying statement regarding the article/sermon mentioned in the OP. The explanation is a little weak (to me anyway) but the editor (Sheldon Smith) did make a clear statement he/Sword believe salvation is an individual matter. Even though they received many letters and calls regarding the original article/sermon due to the clear presentation therein that if one member of a family gets saved Scripture either guarantees or virtually guarantees the family will be saved too; especially if the saved one prays for them; Smith said he doesn't think that's what the article/sermon actually says. Yet, that article/sermon mirrors one of the teachings of Andrew Murray, who did declare what amounts to family, or household, salvation as being a biblical promise and The Sword does sell Murray books, though I don't know if they sell the book containing that teaching. In any event, though The Sword put forth a very weak defense of their printing that article/sermon, they did at least make a clear statement of belief that salvation is an individual matter. (some see this as a mixed signal since the article/sermon so clearly presents family/household salvation as a biblical promise even as The Sword says they don't believe that) Anyway, I thought this update should be put forth since The Sword took the time to address the issue.
  26. 1 point
    ThePilgrim

    The Best People In The World

    "Once upon a time we used to have benchmarks for that sort of thing. We were the best people in the world because we would be willing to die to defend those who disagree with us. We were the best people in the world because we cured Polio. We were the best people in the world because we tolerated religious dissent. We were the best people in the world because we embraced knowledge. We were the best people in the world because we wouldn't let any government push us around." I remember when I was a kid back in the 50s those were the things I believed. As I grew older and saw and read and experienced ever more of the real world, I saw these benchmarks moved slowly and inexorably until they were only memory. These benchmarks were not the way things actually were but they were the things we strived for, it is what we wanted the world to be. Sadly it doesn't seem to be what the best people want the world to be anymore. Makes me sad. http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2014/05/kicking-cats-and-killing-kids.html God bless, Larry
  27. 1 point
    282Mikado

    Looking For A College

    We tried the online thing for a short time through College Plus, but much of that was strictly reading with no video support. She didn't do to well with that. She did, however, excel when using the ABEKA DVD curriculum for high school. The best environment for her to learn seems to be a blend of actual teacher instruction and then reading to enhance and reinforce. It's not the people down south, as you say, there are nuts everywhere. We can't stand the heat and humidity. I could never understand how someone could just be sitting under a shade tree with sweat dripping off their body and say "Ain't this great weather?!" No, it's not! When I was living in Virginia Beach I asked a guy about that and he said, "Well, that's why you got air conditionin'". "Oh", I said, "I get it, y'all brag about the sunny weather you get down here, and then you spend it all indoors because it's too hot to go outside!" That's crazy. You know, when it's cold, I can dress warm. When it's hot, you can only undress so much and it's still hot...., and then there is the decency issue... BOB Jones is out. They don't review as well as some of the other schools I've seen and they are a bit steep. PCC is definitely still in the running, but that Florida thing is really a hindrance; more for my daughter then for me. She doesn't like the heat either and she wants to be a little closer to home. We do have a son near Bristol Tennessee and other family near Harrisonburg, VA, which may make colleges in that area more attractive. PrOBlem is...finding a good one. Please keep the recommendations coming.
  28. 1 point
    swathdiver

    Looking For A College

    On thing I forgot to add about PCC, the costs. You can pay her way for about $4400 a year (I remember seeing that on a sign and brochure last month while there). http://www.pcci.edu/FinancialInfo/BasicCost.html http://www.pcci.edu/FinancialInfo/Default.html Or she can pay her own way and leave debt free in 5 years. This is the path that my daughter is taking. That's about 1/2 of the now liberal BOB Jones college and many tens of thousands less than those poor saps pay to send their kids off to be turned into liberal rOBots at a secular school.
  29. 1 point
    Teaching only works when people are wanting to learn. In every instance of conversing with Swath I have yet to find him desiring to learn. Most of the time he enjoys saying he doesn't agree and argue.
  30. 1 point
    It was a dark time in my life one of those times where everything you try to do never seems to work out. A time where wrong decisions cost you jOBs and friends. It seemed as if this dark time had been going on for almost eight years, though who was really counting. It was at this time I was to face what all men face, the price that all men pay, except one difference I was going to learn it was not my time to face it. I sat upon my bed in the shallowly lit room I had rented along side a home in Haiku Hawaii. I was thinking, remembering and mentally chewing over my life of thirty three years. Has it been all worth the living, I thought. Have I really come to this point where I must choose or could there be any last hope for my miserable existence. As I thought on this memories of times of my life came into the forefront of my mind. Beckoning to relive from earliest years, the pain I have been through for such a ling time. I remember the train station on that partially clouding day in 1961, I couldn't have been more than two years of age. The ceiling lamps had made their impression, I remember them as green and white inverted umbrella’s hanging from the ceiling, perspectively getting smaller as I looked down along the waiting platform. I can’t remember if the station was full, I don’t remember if any family had come to see us off. I seem to remember wearing a small fedora and a little suit coat, my sister in her frilly white dress and my baby brother in a stroller awaiting the train to Los Angeles. But memories like these are always so dreary and bleak but it will be one memory I will not forget. Maybe it was because I would not see my dad again for many years, maybe it was because it was the first major geographic change in my life. But what ever the reason, and whether it is now a fully accurate memory, it has remained with me my entire life. Very few memories remained as this one, and as of them all they were caused by some traumatic event that had befell me in my life. As time progressed without concern for any, the roadway of life continues to be one of sunshine and darkness. Not one of us has had a life that does not have the ups and downs, these things plague all men, of all races, of all times. My life was no different except I faced each day as a dreamer, imagining being in another place or time but never pushing forward any set goals or achievement. By the time I graduated high school I had no set plan for life, I had no purpose for which I lived except for personal joy via the normal escapes of alcohol and drugs, a clear product of a 70's teenager. I lived my dream world, not staying at any one jOB long enough to get bored if I did I still never lasted more than 6 months. I liked change, I was born into a life of changing scenery where when you got tired of something leave it behind and move on to something else, never caring how it affected others as long as I was happy and high, why care. A few years living amongst an adult world began to harden me but at the same time sent me on a journey looking for a purpose in life, and seeing that there was nothing in this world worth pursuing I thought some esoteric search from Hindu, Buddhist or one of the many New Age spiritual guru’s of the day. Maybe they could provide me with some knowledge or wisdom that I sought to help fill the answers of an empty life. It was during that time I began the longing for a companion, a complement or a person by which I could show my love for. As this was the essence of what I was gleaning from these teachers that I had so eagerly sought. I was around 20 when I met her, a beauty that made many of my friends jealous. She was independent yet bubbly and a joy to be around. It took some wooing but I was able to garner her love and I in turn fell deeply in love with her. But when your life is one of self enjoyment finding pleasure in the things this world has to offer, it will strain even the most deepest of relationships. And as such she left me broken and the result was as if I had been severed by a knife so sharp yet with the pain of one so dull. The rip in my heart would never heal, the pain I carried for many years and if I dreg it up I can still feel it as if it had just happened. Again the struggle of my life seemed insurmountable I was not sure what to do. Should I stay and see her from time to time, this I dreaded more than life itself. To see her at a store or a home of a mutual friend made living in that town a misery far more painful than the first day she left. I had to do something and changing locations seemed to be the only answer at the time. Would it be worse not to see her at all or to occasionally cross paths? I chose the hardest, the separation, I would never look upon her again. But where, when, how? These plagued my decision a process, many a man and woman will face in any and many a decisions in their life but for me I knew not what to do, I was lost. Then one day an opportunity came, a jOB offer in another state, a beautiful state one I had never been to, Hawaii. I sold everything I had and took very few things with me. I boarded that plane and never looked back. And it would be more than seven years later I would even set foot in that town again. But life in this new place still did not fair well. My drug habits and alcohol use soon caused me to once again ruin another relationship, another jOB, another chance. And there I stood on the street in Maui, paradise as called by many, for me it was far from any Shangra-la. Instinct for survival pushes a man to do what he must to survive, and so I pushed hard the troubles and cares from my mind and just walked, thinking what I can do? “I have experiences in restaurant work why not go and see if anyone is hiring a dishwasher at least I could get a free meal and some quick cash” I thought. And the first restaurant I hit hired me on the spot. Not two hours later they realized they had someone with experience on their hands and another jOB was offered me at one of their other restaurants in a hotel not one mile away. Life seemed to look good again fresh scenery a chance to show what I know. But still I wanted change I seemed drawn to it, as if change was all that mattered. I ended up sue-chef in one of their sports bars a year later and within 6 months I had, out of a fit of anger punched out the manager for gossiping about me. Imagine, I had it made I could go on to higher places and move up but yet my nature would always cause me to move along, like the wind making a circuit not knowing where it comes or where it goes, just that it moves. One move after another, my life has been like a chess game, but not only did I not know the rules of this game I was unprepared to play the game of life and I was losing. Every move I took it always seemed to be the wrong one. There I sat in that shallowly lit room these memories were about me and tired me even to carry them around any more. What more can one do, what more is there in life, what do I have to prove any more? Nothing. So I loaded that National Match Colt model 1911, six in the clip and one in the barrel just to make it easy and I began to talk myself into this final move, this final change of scenery, to take the step that would lead me to peace. All I had to do was pick it up and put it in my mouth and BAM!!! It would all be over. This life that had been what seemed one bad change after another, a life that was full of hurt, distrust and anger would finally end and I could have some peace. As I reached down to pick up that polished metal pistol, the answer of my peace lay in its bowels and all I had to do was release it and be free. Finally I had the courage up and I reached down picked up the gun, from that moment I was set to pull that trigger. As I brought up the gun to place it in my mouth as clear as any of my conscience voice has ever been or was I hearing something external, but I heard it, a voice and it said, “pick up the Bible”. I stopped and for what seemed like a few minutes I asked, “where did that come from?” I was confused, I was startled and I was halted in my purpose, there was no forward and no backward motion, I just sat there with the gun in my hand, raised between the floor and my mouth simply wondering. It was as I were suspended between time and eternity, floating in thought, a dream world. Then as quickly as that had happened I said to myself, “if there be something in the Bible maybe this is wrong”. I put the gun down and began to frantically look for my Bible. But to my great amazement it was not there. I could find a dozen books on new age, some on meditation but I couldn’t find the Bible. After a few hours of searching I finally gave up my search and sat thinking, “where could I get a Bible?” Then an answer came, that youth missions place in Paia, they will have a Bible. I looked up and it was nearing two in the morning so I hit the sack thinking to get up and go there first thing in the morning. I had to find out what was in that Bible, I had to know of all things why that I heard “pick up the Bible”. I went to bed so I could get up early to head into Paia. I awoke at 6am, time seemed to pass quickly as I got dressed and walked two miles to the highway where I waited. It was a cool Maui morning as I waited and it wasn't long before a blue Chevy station wagon slowed down and pulled up in front of me. I opened the door and the driver asked where I was headed. I told him I was heading into Paia and he agreed to give me a ride. Not far down the road he asked my name and introduced himself as Ron Peers. I shook his hand and returned to staring out the window my mind just going over last nights events. Suddenly Ron broke the silence and asked if he could ask me a question. Being polite and said, “sure.” He said, “Do you know Jesus?” I was sat there shocked in unbelief and at that moment I was not sure how to answer, I surely wasn’t going to tell a complete stranger that I that the night before I had a gun in my hand ready to take my life. So I responded with the truth. I said, “That is funny, I was just heading into Paia to that youth Missions place to see if they could give me a Bible.” Ron answered and told me that they would not be there on Sunday’s because they go to different churches and he said some of them go to his church. Then he invited me to his church as he was heading there to set up because he was part of the worship team. He even said they would give me a Bible. So I agreed. As we neared Paia Ron turned onto an old road leading up through the pineapple fields to the Old Maui High School gym where they held their Sunday Services. After we arrived I went in and met a few other people and as I waited more and more people came in. As they arrived each introduced themselves to me and were very nice despite the fact I was high and prOBably not smelling to good. They showed the Love of Christ that was for sure. Soon all the chairs were set up and the band finished their sound check and were praying in a huddle. People continued to file in and take up the seats and I sat over on one side and after the singing the preacher got up and taught something out of Matthew. I don’t remember the message but the conclusion was a thought catcher. He said, “If you were to die today where would you go Heaven or Hell?” Well you could imagine what was going on in my mind. I sat there thinking wow last night I had a gun in my hand ready to die and I never thought about where I would go. Then he spoke about Jesus and how he bore the penalty of my sin upon the cross and suffered God’s wrath there in my place. And then that he also died the death that was my death and was buried and went into hell where I was supposed to go because I was a sinner. The good news was he rose again on the third day to give me everlasting life if I would just believe on the work he did for me on the cross. He then asked who would like to receive Christ as their personal Lord and Saviour and my hand shot up as if it had a mind of its own. There in that old high school gym on March 14th 1993, I believed on the cross of Jesus Christ. That day started for me a new life, a life that would prove to be just as a difficult and full of troubles and blessings but one thing was different, I had Jesus there to walk with me and to guide me and to teach me his word. That wonderfully beautiful sunny morning will forever stick in my memory to contrasted the darkness I had, and it revealed the truth of God’s love for me and ultimately for you as well. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. Eph 2:10
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    Why thank you ever so kindly Mr. Wretched!
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    Why Miss DAISY I do declare. Good points. PrOBably shouldn't have read it as a tract.
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    You can write very well! Writing could be in your future if it already isn't. Good memory! You're right we remember moments specifically with great clarity when from a traumatic situation. It's your story, write it as you want. There's always more people on here to tell you what's wrong and how to change it than getting a "good jOB"!
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    you must remember I knew no scripture before salvation to quote it in the testimony wont work for their purpose. However there is a section to be added by the publisher after words that is the presentation of the Gospel and it will have scripture.
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    I have five versions of my testimony. 3 short and 2 longer versions. this one does not identify any real sinful activity nor details any particular sin activity that the other 4 do. i.e. it does not talk about my drug dealing, sexual immorality and womanizing, nor of the fights and assaults (except one reference that goes with this version), it doesn't give any look at the details of my sinfulness before salvation. This one was chosen by the publishers the choice was not mine. I was told it was chosen because it is a generic testimony that many can relate too, those who are not drug addicts as well as those who are basically decent folk. For tracts you leave in bathrooms or telephone booths, yes shorten it. But for their purposes they want it longer.
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    I agree with Swath, but I will say cut it way down. Quote Scripture in it !! Remember. your words won't convict anybody. The Spirit works with the WORD, not our words. No stranger you hand it to will get past the few two or three paragraphs, much less to the Gospel. I hardly wanted to. Cut out the melodrama, and get to the point. The hard times parts seem mild to today's standard so you may want to simply present the facts without the woe was me factor. The Bible voice part is a little weird, not Scriptural and would confuse the lost into thinking they need to hear some voice before they can be saved. I recommend you lose that part completely. The purpose of publishing is to get folks saved, correct? Just some thoughts, no offense. Nice story though.
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    282Mikado

    Looking For A College

    Thanks. I have looked at Patrick Henry and you are right, the cost is on the edge. We did look at various Bible Colleges, but none offer an English Degree of any kind. We did find that even with most Bible colleges you still end up having to spit out some bones.
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    John81

    Need A Bake....

    If you have the oven on high enough you will get more than a warm welcome!
  40. 1 point
    Bro Matt is usually pretty busy but rest assured he'll get to you soon!
  41. 1 point
    It's not a clip, it's a magazine. Thanks for sharing your testimony.
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    Except that teaching seems to suggest a current situation, (the husband of one wife) not a past/present situation, (has had more than one wife, or has been divorced). It could very easily be interpreted either way, depending upon your view. Your way of seeing it says that even though Jesus gave an acceptable, (not ideal), reason for divorce, and Paul gave another, they would still disqualify you from some service, meaning forgiveness but with strings. Multiple spouses in the middle east was still done at the time of the writing of the Bible, and still is in come cultures. In this case, culture was to be rejected, because the marriage between husband and wife was a picture of Jesus and His church. Thus, a husband could not have multiple wives. But if a marriage was over for a reason that was acceptable by Christ, apparently to be married again would not be seen as disqualifying one for such service. Consider the woman of Samaria, (I think I mentioned it earlier). Jesus never accused the woman of having five husbands, but of having HAD five husbands. Past. So, If I had had one wife, divorced and remarried, I would still only HAVE one wife. But look, I'm not going to try and convince you any more. I'm not your pastor, and I suspect you would not acept me as such if you could, and that's fine-I have no prOBlem with that. You do as you understand to be right in the Lord's eyes and so will I and when we each stand before the Lord, we will each give account. One thing I don't generally do, though-I don't endorse divorce. In fact having been there and knowing the pain it brings, I stand pretty strong against it. But a woman should not have to stay with a physically abusive husband who has no intention of changing, and a man shouldn't feel the need to stay with a adulterous wife who has no intention of changing. Both break the picture Christ intended for marriage, and if one is unwilling to seek restoration, I won't tell them they must forever remain married. But I will help them fight to keep it if there is a chance.
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    Calvary

    Jail ministry

    I just mean that most times the fruit of the jail ministry doesn´t see its fullness in the church house on Sundays. Many say it´s a waste of time because the "saved convicts" never come to church. But not all ministry should find it´s fulfillment in the local church. You will mature, grow and bear fruit there, and you take that experience into life everywhere you go. That´s all I´m saying. Street preaching is the same. After preaching on streets in downtown for over 10 years, I can´t recall one person who ever came to our church. But I do know that many were saved, the gospel was planted in hearts and Christ was exalted in the public square. In addition, I have to say that in my own life it made me bolder for Christ, kept me sensitive to the needs of people, and gave me a compassion for souls that most Christians in the states never have. God bless, calvary
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    swathdiver

    Looking For A College

    http://www.pcci.edu/academics/courses/default.aspx?section=professional+writing Does this count? I am sending my oldest daughter to PCC next month to begin school and know many alumni, great IFB school. But if she really want to be a journalist, all she needs is an OBama bumper sticker, an AlGore glOBal warming video, The Communist Manifesto and a rainbow air freshener on her mirror and she'll be all set to anchor on MSNBC.
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    Covenanter

    The Best People In The World

    Our standard of "bestness" was the result of Christian influence out of proportion to numbers. We accepted as good for all a moral society that cared. The immoral underclass was restrained by Law. In the UK parliament has systematically repealed laws based on God's commandments and Christian ethics. We will not be replaced by a society that accepts the standards we once upheld, but by a society that overwhelms us by ruthless rejection of all Biblical morality. It's called "tribulation" - see 2 Thes 1. The believers will be vindicated when Jesus returns, while the godless will suffer the tribulation of hell. Whether that means a Muslim invasion or multinational business impoverishment the common people so forcing anarchy and mutual destruction (as the French revolution) OR, please God, a Methodist type revival. May God raise up faithful preachers and give them a voice to our nations.
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    Outlines in Psalms This outline is a companion to three previous outlines: O Lord, Thou Hast Searched Me, and Known Me - Psalm 139 Such Knowledge Is Too Wonderful for Me - Psalm 139:1-6 Whither Shall I Flee from Thy Presence - Psalm 139:7-12 1. The Lord our God sovereignly possessed me from my conception. Psalm 139:13 – “For thou hast possessed my reins: thou hast covered me in my mother’s womb.” 2. The Lord our God wonderfully created me for His glory. Psalm 139:14 – “I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvellous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well.” 3. The Lord our God completely knew my substance from my beginning. Psalm 139:15-16a – “My substance was not hid from thee, when I was made in secret, and curiously wrought in the lowest parts of the earth. Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect.” 4. The Lord our God personally predetermined all of my personal characteristics. Psalm 139:16b – “And in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them.” 5. The Lord our God abundantly cares for me throughout my daily walk. Psalm 139:17-18a – “How precious also are thy thoughts unto me, O God! How great is the sum of them! If I should count them, they are more in number than the sand.” 6. The Lord our God continually remains present with me (as one of His own). Psalm 139:18b – “When I awake, I am still with thee.” Posted in Outlines in Psalms, Sovereignty of the Lord, The Creator God, Knowledge of the Lord, Lovingkindness of the Lord Please share this post with others: View the full article
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    So what! You never used the phrase? What difference does that make? Do you believe the 'Bible'? That word is not in the scriptures. Do you attend a 'Baptist Church'? That church name is not in the scriptures. Do you comprehend terminology? Do you understand what baptismal regeneration is? I think you do. So what's your prOBlem? You don't have to use the 'name' of the false doctrine to believe it or teach it. If you truly believe the stuff you said about 'washings' then you condemn yourself to this definition. Alex Campbell and you agree. That is something I would not wish upon my worst enemy! Nor you. (you are not my enemy, and I do not think that.) Alex 'converted' thousands of Baptists (in name only, OBviously!) church members to 'his' way of 'washing' for forgiveness of sins. That was and still is heresy against the Baptist faith of the Holy Scriptures being our only rule and guide of faith, and Jesus Christ's death, burial, and resurrection being the fulfillment of God's love for the whole world! One salvation for all!! "One Lord, one faith, one baptism..." - Sound familiar??
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    The lie that the Holocaust was fabricated has been around for dogs' years. Common Core is compiling all kinds of lies in every area, adding in confusion and nonsense, and "teaching" it to the kids who are unfortunate enough to sit under it. IN Gov. Mike Pence supposedly rejected it for the state of IN, to much lauding by Hoosiers. But in actual fact, he simply replaced it with what some are calling "Hoosier Core"...Common Core with a shine on it. There should be no common anything across the nation regarding education. It needs to be a local matter. Completely. But once a gulag gets established, it's hard to dislodge it...
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