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  1. 2 points
    Calvary

    What Is The Meaning?

    Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? Romans 9:21 Firstly, God made us as a son of Adam as we were made in the image of Adam. That placed us under a curse. As far as our responsibility is concerned that actually means nothing. No man can use the fact that he is born a sinner to reject Christ. Paul said, “now commandeth ALL men EVERY WHERE to repent (Acts 17). Notice that vs. 21 -23 does not take place in eternity as the Calvinists teach. “Shall the thing formed…” Nothing was formed before Genesis 1:1 “Hath not the potter power over the clay…” There is no clay that is formed by the potter until Genesis 2:7. There are no eternal decrees of election or reprobation in the passage. What God makes, He makes in time, what God forms He forms in time. What we have in verse 20 is a fully formed vessel speaking to the potter. That vessel was formed in time, not eternity past. Notice with me some things we need to know First - The purpose of the vessel is never etched unchangeably in stone by the Potter. Paul speaks of vessels unto honour and vessels unto dishonor. If you couldn’t change your status from that of dishonor to one of honour that would be one thing. But what does 2 Tim 2:20, But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour. IF A MAN PURGE HIMSELF from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work. So your status as a vessel of either honour or no depends upon what you do with the things that defile you. Second - The potter can change His mind as He is forming the vessel and make another vessel. Jeremiah 18:3-4, Then I went down to the potter's house, and, behold, he wrought a work on the wheels. And the vessel that he made of clay was marred in the hand of the potter: The Potter did not mar it Himself. So he made it again another vessel, as seemed good to the potter to make it. What is the application? O house of Israel, cannot I do with you as this potter? God can take a marred vessel and make a new, better vessel out of it. The difference is obedience. Jeremiah 18:7-8, At what instant I shall speak concerning a nation, and concerning a kingdom, to pluck up, and to pull down, and to destroy it; If that nation, against whom I have pronounced, turn from their evil, I will repent of the evil that I thought to do unto them. Thirdly – The potter can take a good vessel and break it and throw it in the garbage. That is what happens in Jeremiah 19:1, 10. The reason had nothing whatsoever to do with “God willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known”. It was because the vessel had forsaken God. Jeremiah 19:4, Because they have forsaken me, and have estranged this place… So when it comes to what kind of vessel God makes of us, he does it with our participation. Therefore! The sinner has no right to accuse God by saying, Why hast thou made me thus? At any time the sinner could repent and changed the God made the vessel. The problem with Calvinism is that he bases his theology on a supposition. He goes to verse 22 to show that God reprobates some men to Hell, and he goes to verse 23 to show that God elects some men to Heaven. The sentence of verse 22, 23, and 24 all begin with WHAT IF! What a dumb place to begin your theology! What if He didn’t!!?? Ever thought of that!? The Calvinist in their eagerness to rid themselves of their responsibility towards God have overlooked the fact that every vessel born on this earth is under the wrath of God until that vessel receives Christ (John 3:18,36) EVERYBODY is born a vessel of wrath. The real truth in this passage is in answering the question What if? We can do that later. God bless, calvary
  2. 1 point
    The trailer is public and the excitement is building. "Courageous" is about fatherhood and having the courage to stand, even if it means standing alone. But "Courageous" is rated PG-13 and there does not seem to be any concern about the rating. I find it rather suspicious especially after what we were told by Stephen Kendrick last year. Here is a quote from Baptist Press dated May 28, 2010 - Will pastors be "honored" by recommending that their people go see a PG-13 movie? (As a side note, I think it is a dishonor for pastors to recommend that their people go to the movie theater to see any movie). How long will it be before Sherwood Baptist Church produces an R rated movie? Mel Gibson did it (The Passion of the Christ) and multitudes of "professing Christians" flocked to see it. I have to be honest with you, I enjoyed the other 3 movies (Flywheel, Facing the Giants, and Fireproof). However, I noticed a disturbing change in Fireproof. In Flywheel and Facing the Giants, the scriptures were read (both silently and out loud) as the characters were dealing with moral issues (it was the wrong Bible, but it was a Bible). But in Fireproof, the scriptures were not read, out loud or otherwise, only alluded to (even after the "conversion" of Caleb Holt). I may be wrong, but I have a tendency to believe that Sherwood Baptist Church is attempting to reinvent the Promise Keepers movement and then using their movies as dramatized promotional material. It seems that Dr Anderson in "Time Changer" was correct when he said that the teaching of moral principles apart from the authority of Christ is deadly. I, for one, at this point in time, am taking a stand against the movie "Courageous" because I believe that Sherwood Baptist Church is promoting new evangelical compromise. I wonder how many of you have the courage to stand with me (although I am willing to stand alone)? Sincerely, Bro Steve Smith
  3. 1 point
    Oldtimer

    What About Buying A House?

    I'm a conservative and I agree with Jerry. We're dealing with a lot of smoke and mirrors where the media is concerned. First, the middle class is disappearing as people are being shifed into two classes - the haves and the have nots. Already about half the population of the US is on some type of government program. Many of them are already firmly entrenched in their side of the class war being waged. What remains of the middle class is gradually being pushed down with the media hype against the "rich". Many of the "rich" are the people in the upper quadrant of the middle class. What many people don't realize is there's a "class" of super rich, power hungry, people who are pulling the strings. Their goal is to be kings of the land and the ordinary, average, middleclass, Joe will be their serf, just as it was in the past, so many times. About half of this country are already in serfdom with their reliance on the government to put food on their tables. The war the media is waging isn't against the "super rich". It's against the upper middle class and the lower upper class income folks. (The media is a the weapon being used in this war.) They are portraying that these groups of people are evil and are harming all those below them in economic status. The super rich already have their monies in safe harbors and are thus insulated when the cries for "tax the rich" are heard. Those in control want me to be mad because we can't drive around on Sunday afternoons the way we used to do. Those in control want me to be mad everytime I go to the grocery store. They want me to be mad everytime my IRA takes a hit. They want me to be mad when WalMart jeans cost more than department store jeans did a few years ago. I'm supposed to be mad when my neighbor can afford to buy a new car and I can't. The powers to be want me to be in debt up to my eyeballs. They want me to envy my neighbor, regardless of how hard my neighbor worked and saved to take a vacation I can't afford to take. The more angry I become at my neighbor, the more likely I am to support laws that punish his success. To bring my neighbor down to my level, even if I'm where I am is because I sat in the shade of my front porch and watched my neighbor sweat for what he has acquired. My recommendation to the OP is to stay out of debt for as long as you can. Since you are in the military (I think), save your money. To the extent you can, make house payments to yourself, each month. I don't have a crystal ball to see the future. But, what I suspect is that the "signs of a recovery" are just that to lull people into thinking the worst is over. That is until the elections in November. Gas prices going down in summer? Why? It's not the norm. Major points of ObamaCare don't kick in until after the 2012 elections. Why? That's just 2 points of many that could be mentioned. Stay out of debt for the time being, to see how the chips fall in 2013. Will the props, holding up our economy, either fail or be removed, post November 2012? How much longer can the EU hold things together, over there? How much longer can the major financial institutions continue to hold their toxic assets? Another one just released their bad news, as they couldn't prop up their problems any longer. Stay out of debt. Get out of debt, as much as possible. I'd rather sleep on a rented bed with a sock stashed under the mattress than to have someone take my bed, mattress, and the house where it resides. While leaving me standing on the sidewalk with empty pockets.
  4. 1 point
    Guest

    "all Men"

    Yes. Adam brought us condemnation Jesus Christ brought us opportunity. A free gift is still in the box unless someone takes it. The offer is there but, by the foolishness of preaching all men are to hear and then the whosoever will... Revelation 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
  5. 1 point
    Annie

    Nc Votes For Traditional Marriage

    From a biblical perspective, this is not a "couple" or a "family." The Bible is clear that homosexuality is unnatural and indicative of a depraved society (Romans 1). The Bible is also clear that "marriage" means a man and a woman (precedent established by God in creation, and echoed throughout Scripture as well as nature). Certainly, there were examples of polygamous heterosexual marriages in ancient Near Eastern cultures (which generally brought nothing but familial strife), but never once is same-sex "marriage" condoned or even mentioned, for that matter. All references to sexual relationships between same-gender persons are negative--it's not even ambiguous. All NT references to marriage/family assume one man with one woman, along with their children. There is no other option. All directives to married couples/families are to "wife," "husband," and "child(ren)." Marriage is a picture of Christ and the Church: the head of the woman is the man, just as Christ is the head of the Church; the wife submits to the husband as the Church submits to Christ, and the husband loves the wife as Christ loves the Church. It's so clearly laid out; how anyone can miss it is beyond me. The Greek words for man, woman, husband, and wife are nonambiguous. What you're really saying here, although you're supposedly asking for "the biblical perspective," is that there is a difference between what is going on in your mind and what the Bible really says. I cannot for the life of me understand why any Christian (or at least any Christian who is at all familiar with Scripture) could entertain even for one second the possibility that a homosexual relationship constitutes "marriage" or a legitimate "couple" or a "family." It's just ludicrous; I don't get it. I'm not meaning to be offensive, but it's just sad to see how the status quo of our culture has affected some Christians...how they so easily establish a new norm in their minds, not because of anything Scripture says, but merely because of changes in our culture. Culture becomes the standard instead of the Bible. Thoughtful discernment is thrown to the wind.
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