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  3. I will make a bit of a comment about this chart. It is very difficult to see how the tribes relate to the items mentioned without some sort of explanation. The positions of the tribes are in direct relation to the tabernacle, but in that case what does the tabernacle represent among them - for in that relationship the tabernacle is central - both physically and in concept. But the tabernacle is not mentioned at all on the chart. I am not 100% certain without checking but I think the position of the tribes in the 3x4 grid relates to the High Priests breastplate, but again what meaning does that carry in the chart? The three parts of the atom relating to the three persons of the Godhead I find curious because there are a multiplicity of protons and electrons in any given atom - is this suggesting the possibility of multiple gods, because that is the obvious suggestion - that Jesus is not the only one and the Holy Spirit is not the only one. And also the Higgs boson is supposed to be a sub particle of atoms which would indicate that God is made up of priests and levites....... Without a legend of explanation this chart, aside from being useless on it's own, could easily be interpreted as promoting multiple gods and the raising of men up to be gods. So, at best the chart is useless as provided, and at worst it is teaching and promoting false teaching and doctrines.
  4. I don't think anyone is suggesting you be banned...... yet. Jerry has responded to your sarcasm and aggressive tone. I will say that we don't often take to kindly to people arriving here and taking it upon themselves to "teach" their pet doctrines. What we do like is people who want to join our community and discuss - not argue about things. But you are drawing some hugely long bows and making some strange interpretations and then telling us that we don't believe what the Bible says. But you haven't really introduced yourself properly and you haven't entered into any general "get to know you" type conversations. Hang for a while. Get to know is and help us to get to know you. THEN join the discussions and DISCUSS rather than just argue.
  5. Why would you come to a site expecting to get banned for your behavior? That is... not a sign of mature behavior.
  6. Note - I couldn't figure out how to post from the other thread to here, so I quote his first post and edited the text with that from the other thread. This explains the incorrect time stamp. Now then: I went looking for their online church and did not find any such thing. In fact as far as I can tell the two men are nor associated and it seems like one of them is dead. And neither of them are running an on line church. I didn't spend huge time searching, so there is a possibility I am wrong, but that is what I have found. So the truth of the matter is that you don't go to any church, but you do find preachers that you like to listen to. 2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; That what it seems like to me. Show us that I am wrong please.
  7. Sorry you feel that way Jerry. I've spent years studying these things and many have found them to be a blessing. OK then, I guess this is where I get banned. Before I go I just want to share one last slide with you all... I wish I could have spent more time with you folks. Take care.
  8. Wow, another pure nutter! Go spew your poison and filth somewhere else. This website is for true Bible believers to fellowship on and those who are truly seeking salvation to come here and find answers to their sincere questions - not for wackos to invent their own brand of new age science fiction. Though I will admit, this is the most original demonic type of heresies I have ever heard online.
  9. You genuinely have no idea about proper Biblical interpretation....... You make the Scripture fit with your ideas. That is wrong. Part of this problem stems from you not being a part of a church but instead getting your teaching from people you don't know and who don't know nor care about you. There is a reason why God made churches.
  10. Now link it to this... Matthew 12:40 "For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth" 'Belly' and 'Heart of the Earth' are synonymous. The 'Heart' is inside of the unborn Child inside of the Earthly Mother. The Heart is also the Throne. Jesus went there to preach.
  11. Sure it does. The 'Belly' of the 'Whale' is Hell... Jonah 2:2 "And said, I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the LORD, and he heard me; out of the belly of hell cried I, and thou heardest my voice" Belly and Hell go hand in hand. It's the Bibles way of teaching adult subject matter similar to how the tale of the stork is told about where babies come from. Jonah was a picture of being saved before birth... Jonah 2:6 "I went down to the bottoms of the mountains; the earth with her bars was about me for ever: yet hast thou brought up my life from corruption, O LORD my God."
  12. Some more context in support of the 'child in the Womb' thesis... Ephesians 4:14-16 "That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ: From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love." See that? The context of the verses are referring to Children becoming Born Again.
  13. Nup nup nup - sorry, but this has no basis in scripture. You have twisted those passages in order to present something that is, once again, not in the passage. You are reading into the passage what you want in it. You are not reading from the passage what is already in it.
  14. No wait... Check this out, I have something special to show you in response to this... This may not answer your question, but it is related. We all know that the Temple is the Body right? Look what happens when we compare the Tabernacle in the Wilderness to a Biological Cell... It's a perfect match!!!
  15. I appreciate the feedback Salyan. I should mention that I believe that the saved still go to Abraham's Bosom. It hasn't been emptied yet. In fact, if I may be so bold as to post something that many here will find shocking, I believe Abraham's Bosom is described in the Book of Revelation. The Twenty Four Elders are Abraham's ribs. The Throne is his Heart. The saved await there to become Born Again. Something like this... Sorry if my graphics are crude. It's the best I can do. Perhaps Pastor Mike can explain it better... (Removed by moderator)
  16. Oh dear...I give up. I'll say this...MJW is interesting. Carry on.
  17. The 'Captive' is all of Mankind, beginning with the Fetus. Jesus descends into the Wombs of many pregnant Mothers and gives gifts and preaches to them... Ephesians 4:11 "And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers" This is what is meant by preaching to those in prison. Paul specifically mentions this fact in the very first verse... Ephesians 4:1 "I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called" Here we see another example of this preaching to the prisoners... Jeremiah 1:5 "Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations" The above verse matches with Ephesians 4:11.
  18. So...you didn't read the next two verses then? We can all be one-verse ponies if we want. Here's one for you...after reading this, I would expect that you... 1. Don't touch anything 2. Don't eat or drink anything 3. Don't use your hands for anything Colossians 2:21 (Touch not; taste not; handle not; There it is in black and white. It says what it says. Do you believe it?
  19. They were there because they were still held captive by sin, in a sense. It was sin that prevented them from you directly going to heaven with God, until Christ’s sacrifice for sin was complete. Is that captivity – of sin — that Christ had victory over.
  20. It is well known that DNA is like a book in which all our members are written... DNA or deoxyribonucleic acid is a long molecule that contains our unique genetic code. Like a recipe book it holds the instructions for making all the proteins in our bodies. https://www.yourgenome.org/facts/what-is-dna No.
  21. I completely agree. This is the point I'm making. So I guess my question is, why is the phrase 'led captivity captive' being interpreted as being captive in Abraham's Bosom here in this thread?
  22. Didn't "someone" here have a nervous-jerkdown and whine about someone bearing false-witness against him? Yet, you wrongly accuse me by insinuating my words allude to this silliness? How about an actual link to the book and author so that we can see where you're deriving your information. Are you a Jehovah's Witness or Seventh Day Adventist?
  23. Sorry Dave! I apologize if I sound aggressive. I really have no ego or axes to grind. I hesitate to give out personal info because there is very high chance many will use it against me. But if I must... My favorite Pastors are Michael Hoggard and Charles Lawson. I go to their online Church almost on a daily basis and listen to every sermon I can get my hands on. Unfortunately, as far as a 'brick and mortar' facility is concerned, it's slim pickings where I live. Most Churches don't use the KJV and corruption is at a high level.
  24. What?? That is a ridiculous suggestion to make. I know you’re trying to make a (wrong) point, but please don’t butcher interpretation on purpose. Abraham was one of the righteous dead. If our interpretation is correct, then he too had to wait for Jesus’ work of salvation to be complete in order to go to heaven. That means he was waiting in Hades too. Abraham is referenced in the Bible as being the father of those that believe through faith. As such, and especially as that period of waiting took place when his descendants the Jews were the vast majority of the righteous dead, it makes sense that he would be referred to with a position of… Leadership? honor? Either could be implied by that reference. Finally, whenever the Bible refers to someone’s bosom in that way, it’s always talking of a place of care and protection - never of captivity.
  25. His explanation was false in my humble opinion. Both dead and alive 'know nothing' which means this is not about worldly affairs. It's about all being ignorant until the Day of the Lord comes. Do you know what the word Shadow means in Scripture? Hint... Hebrews 8:5 "Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount" It is a three dimensional representation of a fourth dimensional construct. New Jerusalem is in the shape of a Tessaract BTW...
  26. I wonder, since you have been back on here at half an hour if you wouldn't mind answering my question in your intro please? I am interested in the answers there. Thanks. Can I just say, personally your attitude doesn't seem great. You are using language which is not respectful and which has an aggressive tone to it. Can I suggest that you tone it back and speak with a little more reserve and respect?
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