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    wretched reacted to Alan in Two Cents   
    Hope all of you like my two cents worth of thoughts on this forum ...
    I want to thank Wretched for the photo.
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    wretched got a reaction from No Nicolaitans in Addition to the rules and regs?   
    Are you talking about this:
     
     

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    wretched got a reaction from No Nicolaitans in Addition to the rules and regs?   
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    wretched reacted to No Nicolaitans in Does 1 Corinthians 13:8-12 teach the sign gifts have ceased?   
    My concern is this...
    Since the Lord Jesus Christ explicitly proclaimed that no man knows of that day or hour; in which, he will return...
    Since the Lord Jesus Christ explicitly compared himself to the master of the house and explicitly said that his servants didn't know if he would return at "even", "midnight", the "cockcrowing", or "morning"...
    Since the Lord Jesus Christ explicitly said that he would return when we think not...
    I would be overtly hesitant to proclaim that I believed that he would return upon a certain day...and furthermore...upon a certain day at evening.
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    wretched got a reaction from Alan in Does 1 Corinthians 13:8-12 teach the sign gifts have ceased?   
    A necessary rebuke IMO
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    wretched reacted to Ronda in Does 1 Corinthians 13:8-12 teach the sign gifts have ceased?   
    Much of the problem comes from not rightly dividing God's word. 
    "For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom" (1 Cor.1:22)
    We see also in Mark 16:17-18 the following:
    "And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
     They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover."
    Sadly, many have erroneously believed that the sign gifts applies to themselves in this current church/grace age. After all it does say "And these signs shall follow them that believe". We believe, right? Yet that scripture is not written about us church/grace-age believers.
    There have been many who have attempted to force these sign gifts to fit in the grace/church age and claim them (erroneously) for themselves. Those who've taken up serpents (and been bitten and died). Those who drink poison ("any deadly thing") and have died also. Those who have tried to claim they have the"gift of healing" (and notice that there is nothing there requiring the recipient of the healing to have faith... rather instead that "they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover." Not maybe recover, not might recover, not recover if they have enough faith, no... "they shall recover" (no doubt about it). If they truly had that gift they would go to any given hospital and heal the children in cancer wards. And if they had the gift of healing then those children would definitely recover, not maybe reocver, but "shall recover".
    NONE have the sign gifts to do such things today. Isn't it interesting that the sign gifts that are claimed by charlatans today are those which cannot be proven. They claim to be able to speak in tongues (yet don't even follow the scriptural rules for the time when sign gifts were in effect, prior to the canon of scripture being complete).  
    What were those rules for that time period? Look at 1 Cor.14:27-28 "If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret. But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God."
    The holy roller, name it and claim it, blab it and grab it crowd doesn't even follow scriptural mandate for speaking in tongues. (Regardless of the fact that it's no longer possible today). Every video I've seen of those who CLAIM they can speak in tongues is a disorganized melee of babbling incoherently by dozens of people. Definitely more than three persons. None interpreting. No order, but chaos. 
    1 Cor.14:33 (same chapter) "For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints."
    Now we know that they truly cannot speak in tongues. The sign gifts were meant for Israel. It was the Jews who required signs. Those sign gifts ended when the canon of scripture was perfected and closed. 
    1 Cor.13:8 tells us that there would come a time when prophesying would fail, when tongues would cease. Verse 10 tells us that "...that which is in part shall be done away." When? When "that which is perfect is come". What which is perfect? God's word in full, which ended with the Revelation of Christ given to John on the isle of Patmos. There is no reason for additional "prophesy" since His prophetic word is perfect and complete.

    Speaking of false prophecy: How sad that someone would actually set a date, make a calendar, and claim an actual date.  Though not surprising given the unsound doctrine that's being accepted today in the perilous last days. Harold Camping move over, looks like Marilyn has a new date set! Maybe she can get a video going like Scottie Clarke did last year (claiming Sept 23rd, then keep moving the date when it doesn't happen). Do these people realize how they give a black eye to God's word? How when they lead both unbelievers and babes in Christ into buying these false dates, when the date comes and goes (as it always does) then those who are "...tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive". 
    If it were up to some of these holy rollers they would be attempting to add to the canon of scripture their latest "dreams and visions" nonsense from the devil (2 Cor.11:14-15). Every other day is another quack claiming to be a "prophet", calling themselves an "apostle", or other heresies.  Too many to even refute now days. No matter, after the first or second admonition reject (Titus 3:9-11). These really are the perilous last days (2 Tim.3:1-7, 13), so we can expect those who are deceived to continue to wax worse and worse. 
    What gifts remains today?
    1 Cor.13:13 "And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity."

    Maranatha!
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    wretched got a reaction from Alan in Does 1 Corinthians 13:8-12 teach the sign gifts have ceased?   
    Matthew 24:35 and several other similar: Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. Christ is the Word and the Word is Christ. If you know His Word, you know Him as you know yourself. This cannot be achieved by men's published books, it can only be achieved by saturation in God's Word. You must consume yourself with listening to Him just like most the professing consume themselves in temporal, self-interests.
     
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    wretched got a reaction from Alan in Does 1 Corinthians 13:8-12 teach the sign gifts have ceased?   
    I didn't quote your whole post brother but agree with every word and was about to write/ask something similar. 
     
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    wretched got a reaction from DaveW in Does 1 Corinthians 13:8-12 teach the sign gifts have ceased?   
    I understand you sister,
    Would you agree that the Word could be in our hearts now if we wanted it to? We could know God now as well as we know ourselves if we would only saturate ourselves in His Word now.
    I have to disagree on the Written Word's absence in Heaven however. His Written Word is definitely in Heaven and will remain into eternity with Him.  
    And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. (Of course the Word of God will be their Judge (all 66 Books)), God the Father has left all Judgment to the Son and who is the Son again? The Word.)
    But before that He will also use the Word of God out His mouth. He will speak it and His Words will smite the nations.
    Rev 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.   The Word is far more powerful than most believers realize and no Ma'am, not the paper and ink...the Words (every one of them). Can you agree with this?      
     
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    wretched got a reaction from Alan in Does 1 Corinthians 13:8-12 teach the sign gifts have ceased?   
    Matthew 24:35 and several other similar: Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. Christ is the Word and the Word is Christ. If you know His Word, you know Him as you know yourself. This cannot be achieved by men's published books, it can only be achieved by saturation in God's Word. You must consume yourself with listening to Him just like most the professing consume themselves in temporal, self-interests.
     
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    wretched got a reaction from Alan in Does 1 Corinthians 13:8-12 teach the sign gifts have ceased?   
    Matthew 24:35 and several other similar: Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. Christ is the Word and the Word is Christ. If you know His Word, you know Him as you know yourself. This cannot be achieved by men's published books, it can only be achieved by saturation in God's Word. You must consume yourself with listening to Him just like most the professing consume themselves in temporal, self-interests.
     
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    wretched got a reaction from Alan in Does 1 Corinthians 13:8-12 teach the sign gifts have ceased?   
    Matthew 24:35 and several other similar: Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. Christ is the Word and the Word is Christ. If you know His Word, you know Him as you know yourself. This cannot be achieved by men's published books, it can only be achieved by saturation in God's Word. You must consume yourself with listening to Him just like most the professing consume themselves in temporal, self-interests.
     
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    wretched reacted to DaveW in Does 1 Corinthians 13:8-12 teach the sign gifts have ceased?   
    1Co 13:9-10
    (9)  For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.
    (10)  But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.
     
    Knowledge - in part.
    Prophecy - in part.
    Complete that which is in part? Perfect that which is in part?
    Your bolded words are only possible meanings of the word, not the absolute definition of the word. The PRIMARY meaning of the word is to COMPLETE (which is why it is the first meaning listed). Which meaning should be referred to is defined by the surrounding words and context.
    The PASSAGE ITSELF uses the terms "in Part" in contrast to "perfect", thereby setting the meaning of the word "perfect" as relating to "in Part" - in other words, to complete, to perfect, that which is currently in part.
    The things which are "in part" are ABSOLUTELY DEFINED IN THE PASSAGE as knowledge (Spiritual knowledge is implied, not general knowledge), and prophecy. These are both to do with spiritual knowledge from God, or "Special revelation".
    This then defines the meaning of "that which is perfect" as also relating to knowledge and prophecy. 
    The Passage itself sets this as the subject under discussion.
    To force the secondary meaning of "Mental or moral character" into this usage of the word has no justification. Where do we see any discussion in this passage about "mental or moral character" in relation to either that which is in part or that which is perfect?
    And don't refer back to the discussion on the definition of charity earlier in the chapter for vs 8 begins by pointing out that charity NEVER FAILETH BUT THE PROPHECIES AND KNOWELDGE DO FAIL AND VANISH AWAY.
    (1Co 13:8)  Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
    This fact alone removes the likelihood of "Mental or moral character" because the new subject is CONTRASTED against the discussion of charity. Charity has all these factors that could be considered to do with character, but it never fails, and these other things absolutely will fail.
     
     
    The illustrations used are consistent with and supportive of the subject being knowledge and prophecy:
    (1Co 13:11)  When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
    Children have a limited understanding, just like the people of Paul's time had a limited revelation from God. You yourself have pointed that out in discussions with Eric.

    (1Co 13:12)  For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
    Looking into a mirror in those days - or even through an old piece of glass - gave a reflection (or image through the glass) that was lacking in detail, or a not a clear representation of the truth. However, looking face to face you can see clearly all the details.
    Paul finishes this section by saying that now his knowledge was in part, but then (when that which is perfect is come) he shall have full knowledge.
    All of this points to the FACT that prior to the completion of the Bible there have been various stages of understanding of spiritual matters, with some things deliberately left a mystery, and some portions of Scripture deliberately sealed by God for a time period.  Knowledge and Prophecy IN PART.
    Now however, we have the completed revelation from God. Complete, or "that which is perfect".
     
    The ENTIRE CONTEXT, the terms used, the illustrations used, the obvious subject, the STATED items that are in part as distinct from perfect, ALL Direct us to the understanding that special revelation is the theme of this section of the letter, and when we have the perfect or complete revelation from God, then the items in part - special revelation actively from God at that time - would be done away.
    Because we have a more sure Word of prophecy.
    Now that we have the complete, perfect, Word of God without error and without mistake, as closed by John the Apostle under the guidance of the Holy Spirit, we have no further need of special revelation as an ongoing thing.
    That which was in part - partial knowledge being given actively at that time - has been done away with by the perfect written Word of God. There is NO NEED for active special revelation now, and therefore no need for those signs which confirm it was from God.
     

     
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    wretched got a reaction from Alan in Does 1 Corinthians 13:8-12 teach the sign gifts have ceased?   
    I didn't quote your whole post brother but agree with every word and was about to write/ask something similar. 
     
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    wretched reacted to Alan in Does 1 Corinthians 13:8-12 teach the sign gifts have ceased?   
    At the completion of the canon of scripture, the Book of Revelation, the church was not a child but a mature adult. As an adult, the church did not need the prophecies of the New Testament prophets as recorded in the book of Acts, the gift of biblical tongues, languages, and the knowledge that the prophets had. All of these gifts ceased at the completion of the New Testament canon of scriptures.
    All, may I repeat all, of the apostles, prophets, and the so-called "tongues" gifts in our age are false. The church, the body of Christ, is mature and not a child. The written scriptures are the only, may I repeat, the only body of knowledge and prophecies that the church needs. A child needs to lead by the hand by a tutor; an adult does not. The prophets and the 12 apostles (please note I said 12 Apostles), were the tutors of the early church. The "early" church was the church in the child stage.  The sign gifts: Prophesies, Knowledge and the gift of tongues were childish things. The mature Christian, a mature church, does not need these "childish things" that are recorded in 1 Corinthians 13:8-11  
    1 Corinthians 13:8 is explained by Paul in verses 10 and 11
     Marilyn,
    In connection to your above post, in order to fully know your statement, please answer the following three questions.
    1. Do you still believe that there are apostles in the world today?
    2. Do you consider yourself an apostle?
    3. Does the church that you attend have "apostles?"
    The scriptures, not a Greek dictionary, defined an Apostle as an disciple who was personally, and audibly, called, and chose, by the Lord Jesus Christ face to face. "And when it was day, he called unto him his disciples: and of them he chose twelve, whom also he named apostles." Luke 6:13 The twelve apostles were audibly, personably, and in the presence of the Lord Jesus, called, and chosen, to be an apostle. After the death of John the apostle the office of the Apostle ceased to exist.
    Alan
     
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    wretched reacted to Marilyn C in Who is the army that comes with Jesus?   
    Hi Eric,
    You are stringing together those scriptures and do NOT have scriptural basis for that.
    1. You have NOT proven that the OT mentions the Body of Christ, when scripture clearly says it doesn`t.
    2. You are assuming we are the army, when in actual fact Jesus clearly says in many places that it is His angelic army.
    3. The world`s armies ONLY surround Jerusalem at the end of the trib, and that is the ONLY time scripture tells us that the Lord Jesus comes in power and great glory.
    If you are not able to clearly see what God`s word is saying and continue to go against scripture, then we wont be able to carry on this discussion. We need to be talking about what God`s word actually says and NOT go against it, or assume, having our own opinions.
    When you continually talk of the Body of Christ in the OT when God`s word says it was not known then, then to me you are on your own agenda and evading the points I bring up.
    regards, Marilyn.
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    wretched reacted to Marilyn C in Who is the army that comes with Jesus?   
    Hi Eric,
    Now I cannot imagine a humble, pleasant man, (from photo) like yourself - killing people. We know that God`s word tells the believers of the Body of Christ that we do NOT war against flesh and blood.
    `For though we walk in the flesh we do NOT war according to the flesh.` (2 Cor. 10: 3)
    And Ps. 149 cannot be about the Body of Christ as God tells us quite clearly that that was NOT known in the OT.
    Now as to Habakkuk, quite clearly that is about the Lord going forth to battle for Israel in the past. There again the OT prophets were NOT told about the Body of Christ.
     
    So on to Rev. 19. We see that the army is dressed in fine linen, white and clean. Now did you know that that is also a description of angels?
    `And out of the temple came the seven angels, having the seven plagues, clothed in pure, bright linen,...` (Rev. 15: 6)
    This description is to show that they are holy angels. Thus the army coming with the Lord Is described as holy, (fine linen) to distinguish them from the beast and his army. Now the Lord is the captain of the hosts through out scripture, and is the ONLY army that is from heaven. The Body of Christ is NOT an army but the Body of believers who will be the court in heaven who bring judgment upon fallen angels and the world system. (1 Cor. 6: 2 & 3)
    Another point, bro. You may not have realised it but the Body of Christ is NEVER called the wife, or the bride, only Israel has been referred to as that. As you like the OT you may like to look that up - where God calls Israel His wife and is betrothed to them forever.
    regards, Marilyn.
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    wretched reacted to DaveW in Who are the “sons of God” in Genesis 6?   
    Gen 1:11-12
    (11)  And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
    (12)  And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
    Gen 1:21
    (21)  And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
    Gen 1:25
    (25)  And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
     
    The Bible establishes that creatures will bring forth "after his kind", and that is what we see consistently throughout creation.
    Animals bring forth after their kind, plants bring forth after their own kind.
    Even in labs today they cannot force things to bring forth another kind.
    God said it clearly - it is not possible.
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    wretched reacted to Marilyn C in Is a home church a biblical church?   
    The form of coming together in a public meeting run by a religious organisation is only one way for believers to gather, I believe. In the early gatherings of the believers there were many ways they shared, prayed and were taught. Also there was participation by all.  It seems to me that the lecture type services that have developed over the years have come to mean - legitimate and all else not legitimate. 
    Something to bear in mind is that an organisation is actually a `business/charity` and as such they are coming more and more under the control of the governments, requiring them to bow to their worldly values. Eventually the government will shut down those that do not adhere to their demands.
    regards, Marilyn. 
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    wretched reacted to Ukulelemike in Who are the “sons of God” in Genesis 6?   
    I have always thought it possible that everyone was giants then. After all, if one lived over 900 years, what would be the reason we would assume they would stop growing at 16 years or 18 years, like today, with so much shorter a lifespan?  Before the flood everything seems to have been much larger: giant sloths, lizards, snakes, rhinos, elk, etc, including the dinosaurs, all huge! There was greater air pressure and a higher amount of oxygen, by about 50%, and a virtually perfect atmosphere, so why wouldn't they get much bigger?
     
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    wretched reacted to DaveW in Who are the “sons of God” in Genesis 6?   
    I also had not considered that line of thought, but then it occurred to me:
    Gen 6
     19  And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female.
     20  Of fowls after their kind, and of cattle after their kind, of every creeping thing of the earth after his kind, two of every sort shall come unto thee, to keep them alive.
    So I think not. 
    I had to check the exact wording of the passage, but it certainly seems inclusive.
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    wretched reacted to Pastor Scott Markle in Who are the “sons of God” in Genesis 6?   
    Brother Wretched,
    That was certainly an interesting thought.  It is a completely new thought for me, since I had never encountered it before.  Thus I have indeed given it some thoughtful consideration.  At the present time, however, I would lean away from that understanding, since everything else within the immediate context of Genesis 6:1-4 seems to be focused upon mankind, not animal kind.
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    wretched reacted to Ronda in If you're still unsure...   
    It's even worse than that... the evil 'artist' uses bodily fluids in his painting (I will refrain from listing those here).  Besides the fact that it's clearly a push for a race war (as this can also be seen on all MSM - main stream media - as they are now condemning people merely FOR being white)... what's even more telling is the rituals the 'artist' chosen uses. These are luciferian and occult practices.
    Let's also take into account the MSM reaction to Vice President Pence.  They now openly mock Christianity. 
    And this week yet another school shooting (more than a dozen so far this year alone). They use this with mock outrage for guns. Yet American citizenry has ALWAYS had guns... yet we have NOT always had school shootings. What has changed?  In the last 30 (or so) years  the progressive liberal agenda in public schools is what has been force-fed in America..

    God has been ousted from schools (and they then wonder why the devil has walked in and taken over?) The Bible isn't taught.
    Creationism isn't even taught as an option, much less the Biblical truth. Darwinism is pushed (if a person believes they descended from amoeba in pond scum or apes they tend to act that way... to them mankind is 'just another species')
    Human life is not precious to those who value it equally with apes and amoeba. In fact... it's valued LESS by those who scream bloody murder if a turtle or bird egg is destroyed, yet those same people murder their own children in the womb.
    It's even is championed and applauded from the left. 
    Kids are taught (indoctrinated) that there are supposoedly 50+ genders? Even defying the science they claim to love? (1 Tim.6:20 KJV)
    Discipline has been removed, lawlessness is lauded and even praised from every leftist 'progressive' talking head on television.
    Faith is ridiculed on national television. 
    And the most (sadly) amazing part of all of this?
    The 'progressive' leftists can't even see the connection!!!
    (Romans 1:18-32, 2 Tim.3:1-5, et al, explain why... and foretold such would be the case TODAY!)
    God has given every warning shout out to mankind that He did previously before utter destruction. 
    Just as Sodom and Gomorrah were warned (and didn't heed), just as Noah warned for many years before the flood (they didn't heed either), so too have Bible believers been warning of what's to come... SOON!
    Scripture even tells us these days would be "as in the days of Noah", and "as in the days of Lot" (Luke 17).  And so they are... the same rebellion against God, the same sins that have progressed to the point where they revel in them rather than even feel shame!
    Yet they don't even want to know what is foretold of their OWN very near future. THEY (God-rejecting, Christ-hating, rebellious world) will soon endure. It's all foretold, yet they mock (as was also foretold (Jude 1:18, 2 Pet.3:3-4, et al).
    What is that future? Revelation chapters 6-18 give an overview. (They can't even understand the plain words of scripture, even though the symbolism is clearly explained throughout the scripture. Why? 1 Cor.2:14, 2 Pet.3:16-17, 1 Cor.1:18, Rom.1:18-22, 2 Tim.4:3-4 and others explain why).
    Scripture foretold the arrival of Christ prior to His first advent. Yet so few recognized it then.
    Jesus rebuked them because they thought they could predict the weather, but couldn't even recognize their own Messiah standing in front of them as foretold! 
    And how is this generation today much different? Even worse? 
    Not only do most not know prophetic scripture, but they don't know ANY scripture at all. 
    There are no 'modern day prophets'. God's word now holds ALL the prophecies already fulfilled and yet to be fulfilled (Amos 3:7 2 Pet.1:20-21 , Rev.19:10, et al)
    Jesus rebuked those at the first advent for not knowing the prophetic scripture as they should have...
    "Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken" (Luke 24:25)
    And yet here we are today, not only do most professing 'Christians' have no clue what the scripture says (much less of scriptural prophecy), but the unsaved world rejects God's word altogether!
    Those who have studied scripture recognize how near to commencing end time prophecy is NOW!
    Isaiah 17 and Ezekiel 38-39 is commencing NOW. 
    What does this mean??? By the end of Ezekiel 39, Israel will no longer be "blind in part" (Rom.11:25). What occurs PRIOR to Israel having their eyes re-opened? "the fulness of the Gentiles be come in" (Rom.11:25). 
    That will mean nothing to those who reject God's word. But for the believer? It should be a wake-up call!!! 

    Why is the world so focused on the middle east? On Israel, specifically? Because end time Bible prophecy revolves around Israel, NOT the church. Church/grace-age believers are taken up prior to God's dealing with Israel, taking Israel through the foretold 70th week of Daniel (Dan.9, Jer.30:7, Zech.13:8-9, et al), the time of "Jacob's trouble". 
    Sadly, many churches today don't recognize this, they believe God has cast off Israel forever. But scripture proves otherwise! 
    (If YOU are in one of those dead churches that want to pull YOU away from the truth in scripture, I suggest you study Ezekiel 39:27-29, Amos 9:13-15, Jer.30:2-7, Jer.31:10, 33:7, Ez.37:21, and so many others). God's word DID foretell the scattering of Israel, but also foretold the REGATHERING as well! A subject they won't touch. They have to omit huge portions of scripture to come to their erroneous conclusions, not just the scripture listed a few sentences ago, but the entire 11th chapter of Romans (and much other NT scripture).
    The time period we are right now residing in is the age of grace. This time is SOON to end! And with it? Those believers in Christ will be taken up before God's wrath commences on this world (1 Cor.15:49-53, 1 Thes.4:13-18, 1 Thes.1:10, Rom.5:9, 1 Thes.5:9, et al).
    Every forewarning and sign given is now prominent, on display for the world to see... and yet they can't see what's in front of them because they don't believe scripture!
    Nevertheless, God's word will come to pass exactly as foretold, whether they believe it or not (especially because they do not believe it!).
    School shootings? Horrific, and merely one of the outcomes of casting God out of school, casting His word aside, and instead clinging to false science and fables.

    This evil man's portrait done by a man who uses occult rituals in his so-called art? Just another glaring fact they refuse to address. 

    Saddest part? You can show this to liberal 'progressives' and they still don't have a clue. (Rom.1:18-32, 2 Tim.3:1-5 explains why).
    Sadder still? They can come to Christ NOW before God's wrath commences, and yet they won't.

    Maranatha!!!
     
      
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    wretched reacted to Jordan Kurecki in New Evangelism Course   
    Thank you for the kind words. all glory be to God
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    wretched reacted to (Omega) in New Evangelism Course   
    Jordan,
    I've listened to some of your courses and you definitely have the gift of evangelism. Thanks for the links!
     
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