Members BlessedChristianlady8 Posted July 1, 2009 Members Share Posted July 1, 2009 The thing you fail to remember is that theif that hung beside Christ on the cross was saved within last final twilight of his life. It is the first accoundt of a "death bed" conversion, so to speak. For all anyone other than Christ and the thief knew, he was nothing more than a dirty filthy sinner sentenced to die for his sins. Everyone on on the ground who walked away saying, "well now that thief is in hell. And we know he is hell because he lived a sinful life," was wrong. Which begs the point: you don't know what happened between him and the Lord. Why would you want to go around saying someone is in hell when, first of all, you have know way of knowing that, and second, you may be wrong. Quit being a judge and worry about being a Christian. I agree thats what I wanted to point to God. But to get back to mourning Michael. I rather remember him as a young child wanting to be singer and grew up very misunderstood. He was a hard child by the way to raise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JerryNumbers Posted July 1, 2009 Members Share Posted July 1, 2009 Yes, the thief on the cross was saved, but look at the wasted life he lived, never glorifying God probably leading many to hell, saved from hell in the last hour of his life. His life, a life of sin against God and leading people to hell, how can any Christian remember anything good about his, the only way it that they know not what Christians values are. Again I ask. 15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? 2 Cor 6:15 (KJV) What in the world does a Christian have in common with MJ, an infidel? Nothing, no not one thing. Misplace mourning, the morning ought to be for all of those he leads thru the gates of hell and will continue to lead thru the gates of hell after his death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ptwild Posted July 1, 2009 Members Share Posted July 1, 2009 Yes, the thief on the cross was saved, but look at the wasted life he lived, never glorifying God probably leading many to hell, saved from hell in the last hour of his life. His life, a life of sin against God and leading people to hell, how can any Christian remember anything good about his, the only way it that they know not what Christians values are. Again I ask. 15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? 2 Cor 6:15 (KJV) What in the world does a Christian have in common with MJ, an infidel? Nothing, no not one thing. Misplace mourning, the morning ought to be for all of those he leads thru the gates of hell and will continue to lead thru the gates of hell after his death. Again, there is an assumption that Michael Jackson has, or will, without a doubt, "lead" people to hell, whether he intended to or not. This is just something that you do not know. You want to assume it because it fits your picture of the way things happen, when in fact there is no definitive "way" in which things happen other than the truth. People end up in hell by their own accord. You don't get to point fingers at others and say "but if not for that guy that danced so well, I wouldn't be here." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John81 Posted July 1, 2009 Members Share Posted July 1, 2009 Anyone who lives a wicked life and especially when they promote that lifestyle are leading folks down the wide path. There is no neutral. The whole idea of someone suddenly coming to Christ before they have a heart attack is extremly wishful thinking. Rather than trying to find ways to skirt the Word of God and ways to play with the world and pretend it's okay, it would be helpful if more folks would actually abide in the Word and live by the Word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members holster Posted July 2, 2009 Members Share Posted July 2, 2009 Interesting.... but I wish this board would implement a "No Michael Jackson" discussion policy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wilchbla Posted July 2, 2009 Members Share Posted July 2, 2009 Jackson's death is no different to me than any death I read in the daily obituaries. I neither rejoice or mourn it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JerryNumbers Posted July 2, 2009 Members Share Posted July 2, 2009 Again, there is an assumption that Michael Jackson has, or will, without a doubt, "lead" people to hell, whether he intended to or not. This is just something that you do not know. You want to assume it because it fits your picture of the way things happen, when in fact there is no definitive "way" in which things happen other than the truth. People end up in hell by their own accord. You don't get to point fingers at others and say "but if not for that guy that danced so well, I wouldn't be here." No, it fits the Bible, read and study it, obviously you haven't, you don't know the difference between good fruit or corrupt fruit, if you don't know the type life MJ lived. 15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 2 Tim 2:15 (KJV) Study the Bible, them you can divided the Word of the truth and need not to be ashamed. Its so sad at the number of people we have that cannot tell the difference between a Christians life and that of an infidel. Must or babe or else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John81 Posted July 2, 2009 Members Share Posted July 2, 2009 DEA joins Michael Jackson death probe 1 hr 23 mins ago LOS ANGELES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JerryNumbers Posted July 3, 2009 Members Share Posted July 3, 2009 Will Michael Jackson's Funeral Be Jehovah's Witness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John81 Posted July 3, 2009 Members Share Posted July 3, 2009 Those handling the funeral are planning all this for legend. It will be all about show, arousing emotions and building up the legacy so as to help enshrine his icon status...and, of course, to help increase his net worth for whoever ends up with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators HappyChristian Posted July 3, 2009 Administrators Share Posted July 3, 2009 Interesting thing to note - Karl Malden died. He also was born in Gary. None of the stuff going on in Gary for MJ is happening for KM!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JerryNumbers Posted July 3, 2009 Members Share Posted July 3, 2009 Not surprising though, the world loves its on, especially those that might make them lots of money. In MJ's death some will get rich, they may even already be calculating the money they might make off of him. Just think how it might be, if more of us served God like so many serve mammon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JerryNumbers Posted July 4, 2009 Members Share Posted July 4, 2009 Powerful sedative found in Michael Jackson's home http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090704/ap_en_tv/us_michael_jackson_356 The sedative Diprivan was found in MJ's home, this is something that is not suppose to be in your home, only in the operating room. Seems there be few who could say no to MJ, and it may have cost him his life. What is Diprivan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diprivan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John81 Posted July 4, 2009 Members Share Posted July 4, 2009 Typically, celebrities can get doctors to prescribe to them whatever they want. Of course, not all celebrities do this, but there are plenty who do and it's a shame there are enough doctors out there willing to turn themselves into drug suppliers for the sake of money. Elvis, Anna-Nicole Smith, several 'professional' wrestlers, some bodybuilders, as well as other celebrities I can't recall off hand, have all had doctors providing them with drugs that eventually had a hand in their death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JerryNumbers Posted July 4, 2009 Members Share Posted July 4, 2009 Sad thing about this, because of the celebrities abuse many none celebrities livea a life of pain which is completely unnecessary. You know, every community has its own celebrities that get catered to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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