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Good singing and preaching tonight. After the hymns a woman sung how great thou art. Preaching was on fellowship. I'm thankful for a good church to attend. 

I heard the first are actually going to be last so does that mean the one who started this thread is the real winner? lol

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No doubt! I never heard of Ruckman until last year but it seems his name is cropping up more and more now.

Recently I read something about KJV-only folks and they were basically attacked on the basis of Ruckman! Ugh! :mad:

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Who is Ruckman? I have heard that name used like a curse word - heard some one call someone else a "Ruckmanite" on another board.

I did not know that KJV - only was such a "hot topic" among Baptists! Were I grew up ALL OF US believed in KJV Only as the Word of God ... I thought all of those other versions was one of those "city people" sort of things. All I kkow was when I moved to the city, the people talk different, act different, dress different and worship different than what I am accustomed to.

I actually got banned from a so-called Christian mb because I said I believed in just the KJV only Bible and that all other Bibles are phoney counterfiets. Then I had a bunch of ladies jump all over me because I said their Bibles were counterfiet! Hoo-boy what a ruckus I started! They should not get mad at me because they were duped into buying counterfiet Bibles! They should be mad at the printing and distributing companies! I did not force anyone to plunk down their hard earned money for anything, that is their own fault, not mine.

Do you think Satan is having a good old time watching all of the people fighting and arguing over The Bible rather than using it as the soul-winning tool that God intended it to be?

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Ruckman has been married, divorced, and remarried several times. He curses and says it's okay. He believes the KJV itself is inspired and more accurate than the texts it was translated from.

That's all I can think of off hand, I'm not that familiar with him. Isn't he based in Florida?

I had a Christian friend who I used to practice Scripture verses with as we would walk the track. He used the NIV. After he would quote a verse from the NIV I would say, "And now I'll quote that verse from the REAL Bible." :mrgreen:

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Ruckman has been married, divorced, and remarried several times. He curses and says it's okay.
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And so everyone who believes in the KJV is being lumped into this category? What a crock!

I believed in KJV waaaaaaaaaaaay before this guy came along.

It sounds like for all the errors and mistakes he has made in his life he at least managed to get SOMETHING right. Too bad he has damaged his testamony.

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ok i know all about Peter Ruckman and his crowd and i lump him in the same catagory with Phill Kidd. I am soooo tired of preachers coming through who dont do anything but beat up the crowd. I hate it when i am in services like that.Or when they preach on things like the confederate flag. I mean i am southern born and raised, but come on.There is a time and place for such conversations and preaching against things such as that and things like a nation without borders. I mean there are people dying and going to hell. Why waste your time hollering about these things, that will not even matter in eternity.

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Amen! A pastor should be concerned about edifying his congregation, building up the Body of Christ to live for Christ and witness for Christ.

Some pastors get stuck on side issues or pick one or two pet issues (like womens dress or Hollywood movies; for example) and they devote virtually every sermon to some aspect of this. How is that helpful? How is that going to build up your listeners?

Preach Christ to the lost and living for Christ to the saved!

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I don't know about anyone else, but when I am listening to a sermon I listen for certain "buzz words" and phrases. Does the preacher express any concern for [b]lost sinners[/b]? Does the preacher [b]pray[/b] in the name of [b]Jesus[/b]? Does the message include the plan of [b]salvation[/b]? Does he ask the congregation to [b]open their Bibles[/b], so they can read along as he delivers the message?

Or is it all light and fluffy, cotton candy preaching that does not feed your soul, but just sort of makes you feel good? That is one of the reasons I can NOT bear to listen to Joel Olsteen and some of those other TV preachers.

Who is Phil Kidd?

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Right there with ya IM! The last church I visited no one carried a Bible, not even the pastor! The pastor brought a few pages of notes to the podium after a woman led the congregation in singing several modern choruses I've never heard of.

They had two big screens hanging from the ceiling, one on each side of the podium, and when the pastor quoted some Scripture from his notes that Scripture verse and the name of the modern version Bible he got it from would appear on the screen.

He hit a couple good points, but overall the message was flat, the use of several different modern versions for that one sermon didn't help any, and the congregation mostly seemed to be looking forward to the sermon ending.

I haven't been back to that church.

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I'll bet that church did not have a single Cross in sight, either! I am ashamed to say that I visited a church like that for about 6 months. I thought I had gone there on a "bad week" or something and being new to town I stayed because I was invited to stay.

Thank the Lord that I found Bible Baptist! It is less than a mile from the other church but a 180' difference "on fire" for God Gospel Preaching Bible Believing Church! I went there when they had a Revival Service and I have been going there ever since.

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I had thought about visiting a new church which opened doors not too far from our home. That is until the preacher moved in next door to us!

This preacher allows his daughters (he has several of them, ages about 5 to 20) to go about wearing very, very short shorts. As well, they sometimes lay out in the back yard sunbathing in bikinis. The younger girls sometimes run around the yard in only their bikini bottoms.

His wife sometimes sits by their kiddie pool wearing a way too tight one piece bathing suit.

His oldest son flirts with his sisters!

He has two dogs he allows to bark constantly, at all hours of the day and night, and he won't even quiet them if he is outside.

And, the first time I met him he mentioned that he was going to Wednesday night services which is why he was home early, but he never asked me if I knew Christ, didn't even ask if I went to church, and never bothered to invite me to his church. :?

Oh, and when I drove by the church prior to services there one day, I noticed two young women walking towards the church. They were dressed like high priced call girls! As is normal around here, I smiled and gave a little wave. Both women gave me very dirty, snotty looks and proceeded on their way.

Needless to say, I don't think there is any point in visiting that church. :(

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They would probably be very offended if you told them anything that they are doing is sinful! After all God is love, and someone who loves you would not want to make you feel bad about yourself now would they? Then they will most likely pull out the Golden rule "Love one another." yadda, yadda, yadda.

They might even go so far as to ACCUSE you of being Un-Christain because you have lustful hearts - never mind dressing the way that they do is causing men of all ages to sin left and right and all around them - and that behavior is considered sinful too!

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You are probably right IM. Those I've encountered like these neighbors are typically that way.

When you point out Scripture about modest dress they have all sorts of excuses and they seem quick to claim that any problem with the way a woman is dressed is with the man who looks upon her wrongly!

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