Members Crushmaster Posted July 19, 2009 Members Share Posted July 19, 2009 Just to be clear.... Yes, certainly I know that Ecclesiates is the very Word of God. But, like the recorded lies of Satan, It is not all truth. You must be careful how you interpret the book. For example: 9:4,5 For to him that is joined to all the living there is hope: for a living dog is better than a dead lion. For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward . . . I understand what you're saying, sir; I've heard some speak of it. God bless, Crushmaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bgann4546 Posted July 21, 2009 Members Share Posted July 21, 2009 Just to be clear.... Yes, certainly I know that Ecclesiates is the very Word of God. But, like the recorded lies of Satan, It is not all truth. You must be careful how you interpret the book. For example: 9:4,5 For to him that is joined to all the living there is hope: for a living dog is better than a dead lion. For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward Holster, how exactly do you see this? My thinking is that when a non-beleiver is in the mist of believers there is hope of salvation. We can encourage or persuade or even preach the gospel to them. He's still alive physically but dead spiritually. We, as Gentiles, were once considered dogs. Even Jesus called the Gentile woman a "dog," and therefore all Gentiles, dogs. But, because Christ shed His blood and died for all men, God did away with calling the Gentiles dogs. We would no longer eat the scraps, but would be able to sit at the same spiritual table in Christ whether one be a Jew or a Gentile. Now a lion was considered majestic and the King of Beasts, but once dead, it was of no good, no longer was it able to enjoy what it once devoured. You've heard the old saying....."Born once...you die twice, Born twice, you die once". How do you interpret this scripture? . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members holster Posted July 21, 2009 Members Share Posted July 21, 2009 Holster, how exactly do you see this? My thinking is that when a non-beleiver is in the mist of believers there is hope of salvation. We can encourage or persuade or even preach the gospel to them. He's still alive physically but dead spiritually. We, as Gentiles, were once considered dogs. Even Jesus called the Gentile woman a "dog," and therefore all Gentiles, dogs. But, because Christ shed His blood and died for all men, God did away with calling the Gentiles dogs. We would no longer eat the scraps, but would be able to sit at the same spiritual table in Christ whether one be a Jew or a Gentile. Now a lion was considered majestic and the King of Beasts, but once dead, it was of no good, no longer was it able to enjoy what it once devoured. You've heard the old saying....."Born once...you die twice, Born twice, you die once". How do you interpret this scripture? I don't want to get into interpretation on this single scripture as it was just an example. It's clear that Ecclesiates is not a book that should be used to teach doctrine on Heaven as was trying to be done to an innocent person who did not know better. :icon_biggrin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bgann4546 Posted July 21, 2009 Members Share Posted July 21, 2009 I don't want to get into interpretation on this single scripture as it was just an example. It's clear that Ecclesiates is not a book that should be used to teach doctrine on Heaven as was trying to be done to an innocent person who did not know better. :icon_biggrin: I think I understand what you're saying. My understanding, was it was read publicly at the feast of the Tabernacles since the author's emphasis on the enjoyment of life made it appropriate reading at this annual season of rejoicing. A lot of Solomon's wisdom was included and some repeats of what was written in the Proverbs. I've read where some theologians think that an impersonator wrote the book of Ecclesiates rather than Solomon himself. Anyway.....regardless, I think your doctrine is sound and I'd still sit under your preaching anytime. I love your comments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Just_A_Thought Posted July 26, 2009 Members Share Posted July 26, 2009 I have the last post...I am now in the lead. JAT bows to the audience. As JAT looks around he then realizes that the auditorium seats are empty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members holster Posted July 27, 2009 Members Share Posted July 27, 2009 Has anyone every heard of Harry Ruggie? (or maybe Hairy Ruggie) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Just_A_Thought Posted July 27, 2009 Members Share Posted July 27, 2009 I was winning and you posted after me... but not to worry. I am winning again!:coolsmiley: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members holster Posted July 27, 2009 Members Share Posted July 27, 2009 Just a question... why use the Geneva Bible in your signature? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Just_A_Thought Posted July 27, 2009 Members Share Posted July 27, 2009 Just a question... why use the Geneva Bible in your signature? I am in the lead once more... and to answer your question, it is because I am a big fan of it. I think it is my favorite but I am not sure because the Tyndale is a close second. It may even be my first. I am not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members holster Posted July 27, 2009 Members Share Posted July 27, 2009 Not meaning to be critical here but the Word of God should not be thought of as "which version is my favorite" but rather, which version is the Word of God. Now, if you are referencing a "favorite" in a "historical" or "collective" perspective, well, that is a different thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Just_A_Thought Posted July 27, 2009 Members Share Posted July 27, 2009 Not meaning to be critical here but the Word of God should not be thought of as "which version is my favorite" but rather, which version is the Word of God. Now, if you are referencing a "favorite" in a "historical" or "collective" perspective, well, that is a different thing. I am not King James Only. I use the Geneva and Tyndale as my daily Bible reads. I love the history but I also to believe them to be just as much the Word of God as the KJV. I know this is not the place to say that since most here are KJVO. I grew up in a KJVO home. I am use to those who believe this way and comfortable around them. I am not here to debatet this since I already know the belief of this forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Just_A_Thought Posted July 29, 2009 Members Share Posted July 29, 2009 (JAT quietly lurks around every now and again then hides back under his rock hoping to win this game.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crushmaster Posted July 30, 2009 Members Share Posted July 30, 2009 I hope activity picks up soon. I'm winning. God bless, Crushmaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members holster Posted July 30, 2009 Members Share Posted July 30, 2009 nope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Just_A_Thought Posted July 30, 2009 Members Share Posted July 30, 2009 Looks like you both are losing now... Just crown me King JAT now...:bleh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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