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I'm having trouble getting anything to post, so I hope this makes it this time. (I hope it doesn't double post)
We believe the Scriptures teach one man for one woman forever, til death parts them.
We believe the Scriptures teach that wives are to be submissive to their husbands because the husband is the head of the wive as Christ is head of the church.
We believe the scriptures teach no sexual relations before or outside of marriage.
We believe the Scripture teaches that believers should not be yoked with unbelievers. (Believers should not marry unbelievers)

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Its not so much "What do Baptists believe" but what the Bible says. We are Baptists because we feel that Baptists hold closest, in general, to the truths set forth in God's Word. The Bible has alot to say about these topics, you may want to do a search on the board as we have discussed these topics many times. There you will find alot of the Scripture that backs up these beliefs.

We do not like to hold onto man's empty traditions but rather base our beliefs on the actual Words of God as far as we possibly can.

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AMEN! :clap:


Yah! What IM4given said.
about what kitagrl said,
about what FindingMyWay said,
and may I compliment FindingMyWay for not being puffed up and for comming to these beloved for wisdom.
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Believers are to marry true believers - that means believers according to the Bible. Catholics may be believers in Catholic teachings - but they are not believers in the Biblical sense, not believers in Jesus Christ alone for salvation.

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Ditto what Jerry said. I'd also like to add that it rarely ever works out when Baptists marry people from other denominations, such as Pentacostals. Rare cases do exist, but they often end up divorcing, so I wouldn't wanna risk it for luck. Marriage isn't a lottery.


Your right on this, <>.

One thing I have noticed around these parts, if a Baptist marries a Church of Christ, most times the Baptist will convert to the coC.

Off hand, I know of one case this did not happen, the wife stayed a solid Baptist, the husband stayed a solid coC, they were married for over 50 years. Oh, their only daughter chose the Baptist Church to.
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Very quickly,

The Bible talks about not being unequally yoked together. This is not just with people of no faith, but it is saying you should be pretty close. So if you are baptistic in doctrine, and someone else is charismatic, or presbyterian, etc. even though they may be saved, there will be issues. To be clear, my wife and I do NOT hold to the same doctrines in every minor case. We each respect each other's opinions and talk through many of them. It actually HELPS our marriage to have these conversations as it brings us closer to each other and God. Major issues of doctrine however can cause problems especially once kids are involved (like which Church are they going to etc.).

One other thing: There are personal convictions and clear Biblical standards. For instance, you asked about contraceptives. The Bible has no clear mandate on this topic as they did not exist. So we look to principles and ask God to convict us with what is right. On this topic there are decent arguments for both sides, neither conclusive. This is an area where you have to have a personal conviction either way. Study out the passages, and ask God to help you. Then whichever way you end up believing is right, live by it. Read Romans 14 in its entirety and follow the principle of if it is not of faith it is sin!

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Major issues of doctrine however can cause problems especially once kids are involved (like which Church are they going to etc.)


I have to second dwayner's statement there. Too often the family gets split between a Jewish father and a Catholic mother concerning which church the kids go to, whether it would be attending Catholic mass and Lent for those occasians and then attending Hannukah on another. Sheer confusion, and it just echoes the old lesson of making sure the husband and wife are synchronized as far as direction goes.
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To clarify what A4C said, Pentecostals believe speaking in tongues is the evidence of salvation. Dispensations galore.. the Pentecostals believe these gifts associated with the disciples are still accessible today. Of course as Baptists, we are not supporters of Benny Hinn fiascos :)

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...marriage? (Forgive me if i sounds stupid but I really don't know much about this)

Do they think that wives should be submissive to their husbands? How about divorce? Do most Baptists marry other Baptists? What about sex before marraige and contraception?


I just wanted to say something, because how some people view baptists:

Most baptists believe you are Saved by Grace. So if you are not saved and doing these things, you still can turn to Jesus. You don't necessary good work in order to earn salvation. Salvation already been paid for, all you have to do is acknowledge that you are a sinner and turn to Jesus.

...But as a duty as a Christian (after we received Jesus) we should obey the bible to keep ourselves and other from stumbling. Even though Jesus paid for our sins, we are still sinners who can easily fail. God's wisdom is far lot better than our own.

If we made a mistake, it OK because you are still saved. There will be consequence of your mistakes on Earth but in heaven, all you sins have already been washed away.
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Yes, that's one Scripture used. Another is 2 Corinthians 6:14-18:

14Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
15And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
16And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
17Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.
18And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.


My older daughter, who eloped with a young man we disagreed with, is finding out this truth the hard way now.

Mitch
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Hate to hear that Mitch, prayers for sure. Seems many young women marry a young man thinking, "I can change him."

They can change, but it takes Jesus to change them.

But, leave me tell you, we have had many problems, my daughter has had many problems, and she married a Baptist boy.

Hopefully its all now behind, but dad and mom always wonder what daughters face will look like next time, plus he has destroyed the biggest part of our relationship with our grandchildren. Its been right tough.

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Its not really that important what you think, what is important is what the Bible says, and it say do not be unequally yoked. God's way is the only right way.

Christina in today's world is used very loosely, and many who are referred to as Christian, according to the Bible and what they teach they are not Christian.

Baptist marrying Baptist, that's the best and right way.

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I don't think it is important that a Baptist marry another Baptist as it is a Christian marry another Christian with the same doctrinal beliefs.


I believe the point most of those who say it would be best for a Baptist to marry another Baptist is for the sake of shared doctrinal beliefs.

There are so many cases of a Baptist marrying a non-Baptist only to have problems down the line due to differences in their churches. Often as not, the non-Baptist puts immense pressure upon the Baptist spouse to switch to "their" church. There is often a huge problem when children come into the picture. Oftentimes, the differing church issue doesn't cause much of a problem until the children arrive. Then, there is often a big fight over which church the children will be raised in.

While the name "Baptist" in and of itself isn't the main point, the foundational ground that like-minded Baptists share is.
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Kevin, Please, please, do not put words in my mouth. Please show me where I made the statement, "That Baptist were the only ones in heaven." In my many post on this board you will not find a single place that I have made such a statement.

I stand by my statement, its not base on what I think, what I believe, but on the Bible. You would do very good to back up what you think, what you believe with God's Word.

In my 60 years of life I have seen many Baptist marry outside to the Baptist teachings, 80% of them left the Baptist church for one of the other churches of this world or either stopped attending church and did not raise their children up in church and now their children may be forever lost to the prince of this world.

It does no good to point out to you what the Bible says, you care less about it and more about the opinion you have formed in you 19 years or more of being on this earth.

What you bring to this board, it surely must be a very liberal Baptist Church that you attend or you do not listen to your pastors and do not attend Sunday School. Seems like i remember that you stated that you do not attend Sunday School, shame on you. For conservative Baptist do not carry the liberal views you bring to this board.

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Just wanted to give a little personal testimony. My dad's dad was a Pentecostal pastor, so my dad was raised in that belief. He went into the armed services and while there accepted Christ. He had until this time been "saved" according to Pentecostalism (keeping yourself saved by not sinning that one (or more) sin that could send you to Hell).

He and my mother got married. We had not been attending church on a regular basis before they got married. Some months after, an IFB bus captain came and invited me to ride the bus. Long story short, we became active in that church. Praise the Lord for that!

But, all of our growing up years, our church attendance and practice at home was affected by my dad's rearing in the Pentecostal movement.

My dad hadn't had much teaching of Bible truths before my parents were married, and so we were affected by the doctrines of both beliefs for many years. Praise the Lord, my dad has come a very long way in the almost 40 years they've been married. But it did affect the kids. I am the only one of 4 in church today.

Christians should marry Christians, and even further, Baptists should marry Baptists from like churches in order to avoid some real grief between spouses and for their children.

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There are so many flavors of Baptist that you really can't go by that anymore. You need to find out what "Baptist" means to any potential spouse who claims to be Baptist.

Mitch


Right - that's why I mentioned Baptist from like churches!!! Of course, that doesn't guarantee salvation, either!
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Kevin, Please, please, do not put words in my mouth. Please show me where I made the statement, "That Baptist were the only ones in heaven." In my many post on this board you will not find a single place that I have made such a statement.

I stand by my statement, its not base on what I think, what I believe, but on the Bible. You would do very good to back up what you think, what you believe with God's Word.

In my 60 years of life I have seen many Baptist marry outside to the Baptist teachings, 80% of them left the Baptist church for one of the other churches of this world or either stopped attending church and did not raise their children up in church and now their children may be forever lost to the prince of this world.

It does no good to point out to you what the Bible says, you care less about it and more about the opinion you have formed in you 19 years or more of being on this earth.

What you bring to this board, it surely must be a very liberal Baptist Church that you attend or you do not listen to your pastors and do not attend Sunday School. Seems like i remember that you stated that you do not attend Sunday School, shame on you. For conservative Baptist do not carry the liberal views you bring to this board.

No, I haven't simply formed an opinion in my 19 years of life. I'm still trying to figure it all out as most of us are. But actually I go to a very conservative IFB church and I do go to Sunday School. I don't really think I bring liberal views to the board either. At least not in light of Scripture, though perhaps in light of your idea of the Baptist church. I don't know. I'll probably continue going to a Baptist church, at least until I go to Korea, and we'll see what the Lord has for me there. I like the core doctrines of the Baptist church but they aren't the only ones who hold to them. I'm still praying about it, I'll see where the Lord leads me. There are a lot of things and people that have caused me to become a bit disillusioned with it. I want to see real Christianity and real love amongst the brethren and I see amongst Baptists all too often a focus on the law and standards and people are completely left out of the picture. There is no unity because everyone is separating from each other for some reason or another. Where has real Christianity gone? I want to see real sincere Christianity, not simply following a list of guidelines set down by the Baptist church. :dunno:
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Kevin, Please, please, do not put words in my mouth. Please show me where I made the statement, "That Baptist were the only ones in heaven." In my many post on this board you will not find a single place that I have made such a statement.

I stand by my statement, its not base on what I think, what I believe, but on the Bible. You would do very good to back up what you think, what you believe with God's Word.

In my 60 years of life I have seen many Baptist marry outside to the Baptist teachings, 80% of them left the Baptist church for one of the other churches of this world or either stopped attending church and did not raise their children up in church and now their children may be forever lost to the prince of this world.

It does no good to point out to you what the Bible says, you care less about it and more about the opinion you have formed in you 19 years or more of being on this earth.

What you bring to this board, it surely must be a very liberal Baptist Church that you attend or you do not listen to your pastors and do not attend Sunday School. Seems like i remember that you stated that you do not attend Sunday School, shame on you. For conservative Baptist do not carry the liberal views you bring to this board.


I'm surprised that this type of a personal attack on a person's character is allowed here. Kevin is no more "liberal" than many others on this forum.
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