Members jchahl Posted August 8, 2007 Members Share Posted August 8, 2007 What do you guys think of Bonds? Personally, I don't like the guy. I think he dragged the game through the dirt and left it there. He's a cheater, and it disgusts me that he has the record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John81 Posted August 8, 2007 Members Share Posted August 8, 2007 The fact the League has allowed him to get away with such is horrible. He should have been banned from baseball. Sadly, charactor, integrity, honor, honesty, and other virtues are no longer important to many people. The chase for the dollar, the ability to bring in big bucks, that's all that matters to some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Madeline Posted August 8, 2007 Members Share Posted August 8, 2007 ( :B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 5dumplings@home Posted August 8, 2007 Members Share Posted August 8, 2007 Hank Aaron was quite the man. He was there at that game. How's that for humility? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John81 Posted August 9, 2007 Members Share Posted August 9, 2007 I think someone put a lot of pressure on Hank to make that statement. For a very long time Hank has stated he didn't want to have anything to do with Bonds or him breaking the record. Then, surprisingly he makes an appearance. Maybe it's just the way he is, but Hank didn't seem all that sincere in his comments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Psalms18_28 Posted August 9, 2007 Members Share Posted August 9, 2007 http://www.answersingenesis.org/article ... k-of-bonds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators HappyChristian Posted August 9, 2007 Administrators Share Posted August 9, 2007 If he used steroids for any part of his career that contributed to his breaking Aaron's record...he didn't really break it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jchahl Posted August 9, 2007 Author Members Share Posted August 9, 2007 Hank Aaron wasn't at the game. They had to twist his arm to get him to make that statement about a month ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members buzzoff1031 Posted August 10, 2007 Members Share Posted August 10, 2007 Bonds breaking the record is amazing whether he uses steroids or not. Let's say he does. He still needs to be able to train on a baseball, many times moving over 90 miles an hour from a little over 60 ft. away, time the hit perfectly, and hit the ball in such a manner that it goes the distance he needs it to. This can't be done on more strength. Look at Ken Griffey, Jr. He's not a big guy, and he hits quite a few homers himself. I'm not taking up for Bonds. What he's been accused of puts a taint on the sport as a whole. It's because of these kinds of accusations that the MLB is taking such a hit in spectatorship. But the record is an accomplishment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John81 Posted August 10, 2007 Members Share Posted August 10, 2007 Actually, it's not so amazing. Steroids do much more than enhance strength. While a very good athlete might be able to reach a "level 8" on his own with strict discipline and hard core training, he couldn't go beyond that. Take that same athlete and put him on steroids and he may be able to reach "level 10" but it's not something he ever could have accomlished on his own. Steroids enchance the ability to train harder and longer, to play harder and longer, to not feel the effects of fatigue, etc. Steroids give an unfair and unnatural advantage to whoever uses them, whether they be bodybuilders, weightlifters, boxers, wrestlers, track runners, bicyclists, tennis players, etc. There is no honor or right in such. Breaking a legitimate record by cheating isn't anything worthy of being called amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members buzzoff1031 Posted August 10, 2007 Members Share Posted August 10, 2007 That is true...I didn't think of it that way. The fact that he would be able to train longer...that would give him an advantage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tired Posted August 10, 2007 Members Share Posted August 10, 2007 The problem I am having is that 2 hall of famers Gaylord Perry and Rolly Fingers both admitted along time ago that they cheated all the time. Perry said he used to put emory boards on the ball and different substances on the ball to give him an edge. And Perry is celabrated on ESPN for cheating. There is a commercial where he pats some guy on the back and the guys back is all wet with vasoline. I think this Bonds thing is so big is because he is a jerk to the media and is an all around jerky player. I have always loved his swing. The prettiest swing in baseball. If Perry and Fingers are hall of famers and Ty Cobb who was an all around jerk than Bonds who has not been found guily of anything should be left alone until they can say for sure he did anything illegal. i look at him and know he did something. Would this be different to the sports media if it was found out that Ripken used roids and GHB to break that record. I bet he used alot of pain killers to make every game. All sports have rulebreakers and when they are found guilty or they admit to it they should be banned. Look at one of the best players ever, Pete Rose. They are keeping him out of the hall but I bet you Doc Gooden and Darryl Strawberry make it in. I think if they prove that Bonds was juicing then he should be banned and the record go back to the drunk and womanizing Babe Ruth. See all of these sports heros are reprobates. They should leave Bonds alone and let him bask in his record until they can prove something. A-Rod will probably break this record in the next 10 years, barring any injury. There will probably be controversy around that to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John81 Posted August 10, 2007 Members Share Posted August 10, 2007 I don't believe cheating (which is a form of deceit and lying) should be condoned or accepted regardless of who they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tired Posted August 10, 2007 Members Share Posted August 10, 2007 Me neither, I was just pointing out why I think they are making such a big deal of Bonds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Flourgirl Posted August 13, 2007 Members Share Posted August 13, 2007 Bonds is HIGHLY over-rated..... he is a jerk and comes across as a wise guy. I could care less about anything that he does. I am going to a Braves game this weekend!!!!!!!!!! I get to see MY FAVORITE player.............. Chipper Jones! :Green :Green :Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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