Members Will Posted September 5, 2007 Members Share Posted September 5, 2007 Who here believes the Paulicians are part of the Baptist lineage and why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Will Posted September 5, 2007 Author Members Share Posted September 5, 2007 *bump* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PreacherBen Posted September 5, 2007 Members Share Posted September 5, 2007 From what I have read, the Pauicians were post-apostolic and maybe baptistic and I use that phrase loosely. All they had were the Pauline Epistle (from my understanding) and that is why they were thus named. So, they may have had some holes in their theology. I would deam them, "baptistic" at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members IM4given Posted September 5, 2007 Members Share Posted September 5, 2007 To be honest I have never heard of Paulicians - I was sort of wondering if that was a new word someone came out for us Ron Paul supporters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Will Posted September 6, 2007 Author Members Share Posted September 6, 2007 From what I have read' date=' the Pauicians were post-apostolic and maybe baptistic and I use that phrase loosely. All they had were the Pauline Epistle (from my understanding) and that is why they were thus named. So, they may have had some holes in their theology. I would deam them, "baptistic" at best.[/quote'] I have their 'church manual,' "The Key of Truth." It makes for interesting reading. If you give me a specific topic(ie, Baptism) to look up I can likely find it if it's in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members qwerty guy Posted September 8, 2007 Members Share Posted September 8, 2007 In most "baptist" lineage, I've seen paulicans included. Usually after Montanists, before Albigenses. I have some books, but never bothered reading them. Of things I care about, this one is so far down my list I'm pretty sure I'd study fruit flies before lineage. It's not a bad topic, and it does help some people, but I care more about where we are going then where we've been. And it doesn't help my faith at all that we have "always been around just not with the same name" I could care less if 800 years ago there was a good church, I just want my church today to be a good church. But, sense I do have a couple books, if there is anything i can add, I will be happy too. And honestly, knowing specifics always grabs my interest so Will has drawn my attention, thus I'm posting. Will, of course you don't have to type it verbatim, what is the paulican view on pastoral authority? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Calvary Posted September 15, 2007 Members Share Posted September 15, 2007 :bump: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Will Posted September 15, 2007 Author Members Share Posted September 15, 2007 The Key of Truth(the Paulician church manual) does not address the topic of church elders expressly. However, after having looked through the book, it's quite obvious that their idea of pastors/elders was similar to something we believe today. Church leaders were responsible for safeguarding the flock, teaching doctrine, etc. However, unlike most modern Baptists(Baptists prior to about the 1850's), they seemed to have a plurality of elders. Some of the topics covered in the book are: On the rite of Baptism Who may receive Baptism Repentance and Faith required for Baptism On the three sacraments or mysteries On the ceremony of name giving on the 8th day after birth On the rite of election Regulations for candidates of election On the creation of Adam and our Lord Sayings about Mary Against the abuses of the Orthodox Church The Orthodox led by Satan The twelve disguises of Satan On intercession of Jesus Christ A catechism for Christians Exposition of the holy mystery of the Eucharist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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