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Did Jesus really rise from the grave


Did Jesus really rise from the grave  

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  1. 1. Did Jesus really rise from the grave

    • Yes, Jesus did defeat the grave as the Bible states
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    • No, Jesus did not defeat the grave
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    • It was a conspiracy
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    • I don't know
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There are many who hold to the thought Jesus never defeated the grave, that He died and that was all there was to it. Some think Jesus was stolen from the grave by some of His followers.

So what about you, Did Jesus really rise from the grave, or was that just another conspiracy?

I'm asking this because its amazing to me at the many Christians that believes the many conspiracy theories that some come up with here in this United States, many of them just out right stupid.

Some people will accept any conspiracy theory that man can come up with. and most conspiracies are built on something that the child of God should have no part of, gossip.

For instant, there was no air planes that flew into the WTC, it was a total conspiracy.

That white man invented aids to kill black people.

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Only those who don't believe the entire Bible is true can believe Jesus didn't rise from the grave. Sadly, there are many professing Christians who hold to the lie that Jesus never died and rose. Muslims teach this as well.

I've never encountered a theory proclaiming no planes flew into the WTC.

Just because something gets labled as a conspiracy theory doesn't mean it is one or that it's evil. There are some alternate views out there about many things. Some are obviously crazy, some seem very probable, and there are many degrees in between.

Many "conspiracy theories" amount more to a question about whether the whole truth has been told about something or if some things have been lied about.

Look at how many years any questions about the Lusitania was derided and mocked as "conspiracy theory" only to have the truth finally come forth decades later that much of what the "conspiracy theorists" said was true.

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Thanks for this poll Jerry' date=' it gave me a laugh!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol:[/quote']

Your welcome. But with what some believe, it would not surprise me that some feel it was a conspiracy.

A lot of people believe the gossip that is put out by politicians against other politicians whose position they want.

There is no doubt in my mind that both democrats and republicans will put out conspiracies against their rivals and there will be people who will buy into them.

Some people will reach down very low to get the office of president or congressman of which they lust after.

We know they will lie about anything to get the office and or keep the office.
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If someone rejects that Christ rose from the dead, they are not saved. There is no salvation apart from believing in His death, burial, and resurrection.

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Without the resurrection there is no hope. Salvation would be very empty without it. I would hope we have no Saducees on the OB.

:lol:

Reminds me of that bus song we used to sing:

(in a sad voice)
I don't wanna be a Sadducee
I don't wanna be a Sadducee
'Cause there so sad, ya see
I don't wanna be a Sadducee

( in a happy voice)
I just wanna be a sheep baa baa baa
I just wanna be a sheep baa baa baa
I pray the Lord, my soul to keep.
I just wanna be a sheep baa baa baa

*Vir comes back from memory lane*
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And they are Christians????

Wow! I wonder why they are christians in the first place if they don't want to believe in the miracles in the bible.

yes, That Aids thing is ridiculous. I think the reason why black people are the ones with the most AIDS is because they are more sexually active. They have the most abortions too. And use drugs. But all those goes with poverty and poor life. They called Christians crazy for thinking it is a homosexual disease. Called huckabee crazy for wanting to eliminate AIDS as possible by isolating them back in his early days.

There was Doctor on O'reilly and even he thinks we gave black AIDS. Sorry, but if they wait til marriage, and be faithful and don't do drugs, then all that AIDS would not rapidly spread. Even if they do have AIDS, they should be faithful to their spouse so other people won't have AIDS .

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That Aids thing is ridiculous. I think the reason why black people are the ones with the most AIDS is because they are more sexually active. They have the most abortions too. And use drugs.


I don't think these statements are fair. Blacks in a particular area (like the ghettoes of a city) may fit this more than whites in that specific area - but I doubt you can say these things as a general rule. Sin is sin - and we are all sinners, regardless of nationality.

Aids supposedly came from Africa - and when you study the cultures there, you will find that area of the world is filled with idolatry and fornication - therefore it is no wonder that aids is rampant there. It is getting more and more prevalent in North America, because North America is turning from the truth and getting more and more promiscuous and idolatrous.
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ITrue, but t's been shown they have the most abortions. So they are more sexually active. But most people in poverty in the city are. The problem with American blacks is that they have this pride not to act like a white person. So if any black person is conservative (like Keyes)... they would give that black person a hard time for acting like a white person. Their pride take them far away from what the bible says.

Yes everyone is a sinner.. and everyone can get AIDs.


BTW, I am mostly native Indian who possibility have a black ancestor myself.

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Jerry8, your polls are great! :lol:

Unfortunately, as you said, there are people who don't believe that He rose. If He didn't, we have not hope of resurrection ourselves, but Praise God we do have hope because He did!!


Reminds me of that bus song we used to sing:

(in a sad voice)
I don't wanna be a Sadducee
I don't wanna be a Sadducee
'Cause there so sad, ya see
I don't wanna be a Sadducee

( in a happy voice)
I just wanna be a sheep baa baa baa
I just wanna be a sheep baa baa baa
I pray the Lord, my soul to keep.
I just wanna be a sheep baa baa baa

*Vir comes back from memory lane*

Never heard that one!!! Is the tune a common one?
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I knew that song growing up -- but we just sang the tune without any rock music or 'dancing.'


So did we. I just selected that video because of the clarity (perhaps "reinforcement" is a better word) of its melody, as opposed to a child's a cappella version. We may have danced, but that was only because the bus driver forgot to slow down for speed bumps! :cool

It's fairly common in the evangelical churches. Now that I think about it' date=' I haven't heard at all in IFB circles.[/quote']

Yeah, I suppose so. Wait, are you saying that IFB churches are not evangelical? :wink It was an IFB church where I learned it.
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Seems to me like one every Christian would want to answer.


Does it mean many think its a poll not worth voting in? :uuhm:

Seems this is a very important issue for the Christian, at least it ought to be, right?


Even more interesting.....so if a Christian KNOWS and BELIEVES with all of their heart that Jesus rose from the dead (I don't know of any Christian that doesn't believe in the resurrection of Jesus), but decides not to vote...that makes them non-Christian? There are unbelievers that believe that Jesus had rose from the dead, however, that does NOT make them Christians. IMO, I think that this poll is directed towards an OB choir.

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So did we. I just selected that video because of the clarity (perhaps "reinforcement" is a better word) of its melody, as opposed to a child's a cappella version. We may have danced, but that was only because the bus driver forgot to slow down for speed bumps! :cool



I heard it in an IFB church.. it was either the church I'm attending right now or the one we attended in Oregon before we moved here. I can't remember.

Honestly, that song gets really annoying after a little kid sings it a whole bunch of times around you....lol. It gets stuck in your head too easily.
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I was tempted to PM everyone but Jerry80871852, and ask them to vote it's a conspiracy, just to turn the poll into a consipracy of it's own but I didn't have the time to PM thousands of people just to create a conspiracy. I'm to busy working on world domination through my hidden agenda of mis-information concerning conspiracies.

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Even more interesting.....so if a Christian KNOWS and BELIEVES with all of their heart that Jesus rose from the dead (I don't know of any Christian that doesn't believe in the resurrection of Jesus), but decides not to vote...that makes them non-Christian? There are unbelievers that believe that Jesus had rose from the dead, however, that does NOT make them Christians. IMO, I think that this poll is directed towards an OB choir.

Love,
Madeline


Sad to say, there are people who call their self Christians that do not believe in the resurrection.

The same day came to him the Sadducees, which say that there is no resurrection, and asked him,
Matt 22:23 (KJV)

When I made this poll I was really interested in what all members believed about this.
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I was tricked. The title is "Did Jesus really rise from the grave" and I was gonna vote no. But the question is did he defeat death... and that's a yes.

You see.. He didn't so much rise, as He walked out.


I am missing what you are getting at. Are you playing with words? The Scriptures quite clearly use the term risen from the dead in various passages - so yes, He did conquer death and rise from the dead.
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I am missing what you are getting at. Are you playing with words? The Scriptures quite clearly use the term risen from the dead in various passages - so yes, He did conquer death and rise from the dead.


Yes, it was a play on words, saying he didn't "rise" from the dead, he walked out of the cave. If it was a pit, that would require rising. Instead of "rise" like from slumber, I (for the jokes sake) take it as "rise" the physical action.

:dead: <-- the joke
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I don't think these statements are fair. Blacks in a particular area (like the ghettoes of a city) may fit this more than whites in that specific area - but I doubt you can say these things as a general rule. Sin is sin - and we are all sinners, regardless of nationality.

Aids supposedly came from Africa - and when you study the cultures there, you will find that area of the world is filled with idolatry and fornication - therefore it is no wonder that aids is rampant there. It is getting more and more prevalent in North America, because North America is turning from the truth and getting more and more promiscuous and idolatrous.


As I understand the whole aids thing - it was a common ailment among monkeys - and people in Afrika eat monkeys like we eat chicken. That was how it was transmitted from monkeys to humans. Then the humans - being what they are, have spread it among themselves, until now it is becoming more and more common in the general population. Humans have spread plagues and diseases ever since Adam and Eve were expelled from the Garden of Eden, it has always been so and always will be. As medical science attempts to create a disease free world, they are acting as if they were gods (small g intended) - but as long as there is sin in the world there will always be disease and death.

As for Christ rising from the dead - there can be no doubt about that! He is RISEN and he is RETURNING - quite soon I think!
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"We serve a risen Saviour
He's in the world today
I know that he goes with me
whaterver man may say"

Amen! He rose and He's coming again


:amen: Looking forward to the glorious return of our risen Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ! :clap:
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