Case Closed for Free Will?

[Psalms18_28]

Coffee or tea with lunch? Which pants to wear to work? Which movie to watch? Your mind might be made up before you know it. Researchers have found patterns of brain activity that predict people's decisions up to 10 seconds before they're aware they've made a choice.
In the 1980s, psychologist Benjamin Libet of the University of California, San Francisco, caught people's brains jumping the gun on consciousness. A few hundred milliseconds before a person thought he or she decided to press a button, brain areas related to movement were already active. The result was hard for some to stomach because it suggested that the unconscious brain calls the shots, making free will an illusory afterthought. But there was room for doubt. The time lag was so short that it might have been an error, and the brain activity might have reflected preparation for a decision rather than the decision itself. "It's possibly the most debated single paper in the whole of neuroscience," says brain scientist John-Dylan Haynes of the Charit

[deputydog530]

Interesting stuff. The brain is so complex they are just beginning to understand it.

My father attempted suicide in 1992. Ne still lives in assisted living and Is like a 12 year old. in 92 the brain surgeon who's rep was to be one of the best in the reigon told us "even we (the brain surgeons) do not understand the brain.

Another example is Bi-Polar disorder. Thought for years to be a "nut" that needed locked up. Then they discovered that Anti-siezure meds worked on it in the 70's. Now PET scans show that when a Bi-Polar person enters a manic/depressive cycle the brain itself is in siezure. Therefore, people with this disorder are not "nuts" they have a siezure disorder.

Again intersting stuff about the brain. I have a lot of questions for the Lord, though when we get to heaven I doubt they will matter. :smile

[qwerty guy]

I read about this on Drudge Report, and it sparked an interest because biblically, it would need explaining.

What I found and I looked into the data on the report, is that the test subjects had to SAY when they desided. They pressed a button, some vocally said when they desided.

I always pick right. Then I think it out, and pick left after reasoning with myself. You say "left or right" INSTANTLY I think right. It gets me killed in lots of video games cuz I do that. But if you say "left or right" I may THINK right, but that's not my call yet. I'll think it out, and then pick left or right. it's after this I would say I've made up my mind.

I think the study better showed reflex, like what you would do if you didn't have time to think. muscles have reflexes, I'm sure the brain does. I've been in too many emergencies where I didn't even know what I was doing until it was all over, to think that the brain doesn't have reflexes.

That's probably what they where picking up.

[John81]

I read about this on Drudge Report, and it sparked an interest because biblically, it would need explaining.

What I found and I looked into the data on the report, is that the test subjects had to SAY when they desided. They pressed a button, some vocally said when they desided.

I always pick right. Then I think it out, and pick left after reasoning with myself. You say "left or right" INSTANTLY I think right. It gets me killed in lots of video games cuz I do that. But if you say "left or right" I may THINK right, but that's not my call yet. I'll think it out, and then pick left or right. it's after this I would say I've made up my mind.

I think the study better showed reflex, like what you would do if you didn't have time to think. muscles have reflexes, I'm sure the brain does. I've been in too many emergencies where I didn't even know what I was doing until it was all over, to think that the brain doesn't have reflexes.

That's probably what they where picking up.

That sums up very well the way I see this.

[Ashlee]

Agreed