Members TheGloryLand Posted April 3, 2023 Members Share Posted April 3, 2023 Puerto Rico, has always been independent of the united states. Is it time, for it finally to become a state. Is there room to add one more star to the great American flag? https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/politics/puerto-rico-on-its-way-to-become-new-us-state/48157236#:~:text=In November 2023%2C Puerto Ricans,allow for a binding vote. swathdiver 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TheGloryLand Posted April 4, 2023 Author Members Share Posted April 4, 2023 If you ever visited, Puerto Rico, probably felt like you were in America. The Puerto Rican and American flag all over the island post office, American banks, stores, restaurants, dollar bill same currency. I believe the biggest problem the Puerto Rican have becoming a state, is changing the first language from Spanish to English, especially in the schools. And paying the federal government and its taxes. But right now, I believe they have no other choice. Â swathdiver 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members swathdiver Posted April 22, 2023 Members Share Posted April 22, 2023 Puerto Rico is a failed state. Full of corruption/socialism/communism, it's another Democrat Party money laundering operation. Admitting them to the United States would only add more Democrats to both Houses, terrible idea. It is a drain on the Treasury, I don't know what they add to our country other than reliable Democrat votes.  I've visited and while the architecture reminded me of Florida, police standing around with sub-machine guns is a third world thing. wretched and Napsterdad 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TheGloryLand Posted April 22, 2023 Author Members Share Posted April 22, 2023 44 minutes ago, swathdiver said: Puerto Rico is a failed state. Full of corruption/socialism/communism, it's another Democrat Party money laundering operation. Admitting them to the United States would only add more Democrats to both Houses, terrible idea. It is a drain on the Treasury, I don't know what they add to our country other than reliable Democrat votes.  I've visited and while the architecture reminded me of Florida, police standing around with sub-machine guns is a third world thing. Drain the Treasury, I don’t think so. They will be paying State and Federal Taxes, also pay property, and tourism Taxes. Social Security Medicare, out of the wages and more. Just like here in America, and all those things that you mentioned above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Solution Napsterdad Posted April 22, 2023 Members Solution Share Posted April 22, 2023 3 hours ago, TheGloryLand said: Drain the Treasury, I don’t think so. They will be paying State and Federal Taxes, also pay property, and tourism Taxes. Social Security Medicare, out of the wages and more. Just like here in America, and all those things that you mentioned above. Most everything I have read agrees that Puerto Rico leans (some say heavily) to the left. You cannot deny that liberal policies are a much bigger burden on the government both in cost and bureaucracy; hence not only a drain on the treasury, but also a drain on the middle-class wallet, which is a favorite place for democrats to reside. This would also lead to more liberal representation in both the house and senate, tipping those scales even more to left. Now we'd not only have a higher deficit and more taxes, but we'd have more liberal social policies passed through congress, which will do nothing but exasperate the financial problems and make America even more socially corrupt. No thank you Puerto Rico, we have enough problems. swathdiver and wretched 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TheGloryLand Posted April 22, 2023 Author Members Share Posted April 22, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Napsterdad said: Most everything I have read agrees that Puerto Rico leans (some say heavily) to the left. You cannot deny that liberal policies are a much bigger burden on the government both in cost and bureaucracy; hence not only a drain on the treasury, but also a drain on the middle-class wallet, which is a favorite place for democrats to reside. This would also lead to more liberal representation in both the house and senate, tipping those scales even more to left. Now we'd not only have a higher deficit and more taxes, but we'd have more liberal social policies passed through congress, which will do nothing but exasperate the financial problems and make America even more socially corrupt. No thank you Puerto Rico, we have enough problems. The  European country can adopt them, and make Puerto Rico their State. This way they can put one of their military bases there. They can also take over all the ports, for shipping and receiving. This might be a better option for a Puerto Rico State. Edited April 22, 2023 by TheGloryLand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SureWord Posted April 22, 2023 Members Share Posted April 22, 2023 Puerto Rico has already voted overwhelming to become a State but for whatever reason never do. I've known some Puerto Ricans who were hard working, lovely neighbors but I guess down on the island they have developed some really bad crime. wretched 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TheGloryLand Posted April 22, 2023 Author Members Share Posted April 22, 2023 2 hours ago, SureWord said: Puerto Rico has already voted overwhelming to become a State but for whatever reason never do. I've known some Puerto Ricans who were hard working, lovely neighbors but I guess down on the island they have developed some really bad crime. True, crime can be compared to Chicago. But P.R is going bankrupt and don’t have options. If the US don’t take advantage now, someone else will. Who? China or Russia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BrotherTony Posted April 22, 2023 Members Share Posted April 22, 2023 2 hours ago, TheGloryLand said: True, crime can be compared to Chicago. But P.R is going bankrupt and don’t have options. If the US don’t take advantage now, someone else will. Who? China or Russia Puerto Rico is a US Territorial asset. What makes you think any of these other countries can "take advantage?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TheGloryLand Posted April 22, 2023 Author Members Share Posted April 22, 2023 1 hour ago, BrotherTony said: Puerto Rico is a US Territorial asset. What makes you think any of these other countries can "take advantage?" But If the US say no, to P.R becoming State. Don’t they have the liberty of becoming socialist, like Cuba. I don’t know, what would happen. They can become independent, I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BrotherTony Posted April 22, 2023 Members Share Posted April 22, 2023 37 minutes ago, TheGloryLand said: But If the US say no, to P.R becoming State. Don’t they have the liberty of becoming socialist, like Cuba. I don’t know, what would happen. They can become independent, I believe. They can't do much without the permission of our government. They're a US Territory. They can try to split away, but, that would probably be more trouble than they want at this point. Our government wouldn't give them up so easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TheGloryLand Posted April 22, 2023 Author Members Share Posted April 22, 2023 39 minutes ago, BrotherTony said: They can't do much without the permission of our government. They're a US Territory. They can try to split away, but, that would probably be more trouble than they want at this point. Our government wouldn't give them up so easily. That’s was a good answer. Will see what will happen, only time will tell. Hopefully, no dictator is voted in, and take over the island forcefully. What I mean, they kick the US out, by the majority vote. If P.R not becoming a state, the government or leader can say, you see, they don’t care for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BrotherTony Posted April 22, 2023 Members Share Posted April 22, 2023 26 minutes ago, TheGloryLand said: That’s was a good answer. Will see what will happen, only time will tell. Hopefully, no dictator is voted in, and take over the island forcefully. What I mean, they kick the US out, by the majority vote. If P.R not becoming a state, the government or leader can say, you see, they don’t care for us. We'd have to relinquish control first, and I don't see that happening. They won't want to give up all the money the US provides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TheGloryLand Posted April 22, 2023 Author Members Share Posted April 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, BrotherTony said: We'd have to relinquish control first, and I don't see that happening. They won't want to give up all the money the US provides. I believe the US pulled all their navy bases out already? They have the Coast Guard over there, maybe the Army base. After the war in Hawaii, they became a state. Not sure why the delay for Puerto Rico becoming a state. All the old-timers passed away, those that did not want P.R to become a state. When the island go bankrupt, maybe one of these multibillionaires will buy the island. Elon Musk, for his shuttle program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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