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:a :amen: men: :amen::amen::amen::amen::amen::amen::amen::amen::amen::amen::amen: Thank you soooo much for saying that--it's true atleast in my life. Of course temptations come around but we don't stand there we walk away with Jesus and if we fall we don't stay there because there is no joy! your sister in Christ--pixiedust

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:a :amen: men: :amen::amen::amen::amen::amen::amen::amen::amen::amen::amen::amen: Thank you soooo much for saying that--it's true atleast in my life. Of course temptations come around but we don't stand there we walk away with Jesus and if we fall we don't stay there because there is no joy! your sister in Christ--pixiedust


Thank you, you made this thought come to my mind. If it were not so late I think I could find scriptures to go with it.

One way of telling if one is saved or not, if they sin, they will feel guilty for having done so, and I believe they will feel ashamed as well. After all the saved person does have the Holy Spirit dwelling within them and when we sin that will grieve the Holy Spirit that is within us.

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Okay' date=' I think I understand what has been stated here. After I think that i am saved and believe that i am. It doesn't matter what i do from now on until the end of the world. I can go to a bar and dance, may be kill someone don't go back to church never pray and i will be saved. because no one or myself can take me out of the hand of God.[/quote']

If that's your mentality (not saying that it is), then you're clearly not saved. How do I know? Jesus said that a tree is known by its fruits (Matt. 7:16-17) There are too many people in churches today walking down an aisle and repeating the words of a pastor thinking they're saved. The majority of them are probably on their way to eternal damnation. This is the primary reason why there are SO many false converts in churches today....they are unregenerated and they have NEVER truly been born of God. This is not a matter of judging someone's heart, but rather them demonstrating by their deeds and actions that they have no godly sorrow or remorse towards sin...they are unrepentant and unregenerate and bear no fruits of the spirit. Their lifestyle will give proof to whether they have truly been born again. It's sad that many professed Christians are hellbound because they have walked down an aisle at church when they were 6 or 7 and now live a lifestyle of sin and carnality. Matthew 7:21-23 is a warning towards professing Christians, and the sad fact is that "MANY" professing Christians are in fact unsaved as that passage clearly says.

2 Corinthians 13:5 - Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?

If Christ is in us, then we ought to walk as Christ walked. And as professed Christians, we should examine our lifestyle and see if it is aligned with how the Word of God dictates how we should live.

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Madeline

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Thank you, you made this thought come to my mind. If it were not so late I think I could find scriptures to go with it.

One way of telling if one is saved or not, if they sin, they will feel guilty for having done so, and I believe they will feel ashamed as well. After all the saved person does have the Holy Spirit dwelling within them and when we sin that will grieve the Holy Spirit that is within us.

That is true to a point, but even some (or most) lost people feel guilty for sinning because of their conscience.
God bless,
Crushmaster.

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[quote="Crushmaster"][quote="Jerry80871852"][quote="pixiedust"]:a :amen: men: :amen: :amen: :amen: :amen: :amen: :amen: :amen: :amen: :amen: :amen: :amen: Thank you soooo much for saying that--it's true atleast in my life. Of course temptations come around but we don't stand there we walk away with Jesus and if we fall we don't stay there because there is no joy! your sister in Christ--pixiedust[/quote]

Thank you, you made this thought come to my mind. If it were not so late I think I could find scriptures to go with it.

One way of telling if one is saved or not, if they sin, they will feel guilty for having done so, and I believe they will feel ashamed as well. After all the saved person does have the Holy Spirit dwelling within them and when we sin that will grieve the Holy Spirit that is within us.[/quote]
That is true to a point, but even some (or most) lost people feel guilty for sinning because of their conscience.
God bless,
Crushmaster.[/quote]


True. God written in their heart.
There are alot of lost people who act alot better than christians. But then there is a lot who don't.

But they do sin against the Lord and say there is no God or have a different belief in a god.

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BUT the Lord said we will know them by their fruit so can a person be saved and remain in continual sin and not be chastised by the Lord? Doesn't He punish His children??? In love of course!--Pixiedust

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BUT the Lord said we will know them by their fruit so can a person be saved and remain in continual sin and not be chastised by the Lord? Doesn't He punish His children??? In love of course!--Pixiedust

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Its difficult to judge a person being saved or not, something that we just cannot disceran for sure. Its something we have to leave to Jesus and we can be assured He can read that persons heart and know what is in it.

There was a time, when if we had witness David's life during a certain time period, I feel sure we would have thought that David was not a man after God's heart, for he was invloved is an affair with Bathsheba, them had her husband murdered, them tried to cover it all up. One thing he did do, when he was approached about this, he repented and was very sorry for what he had done.

Seems that many times when we approach someone becasue of their back slidden condition, that can happen and does not mean they are lost, instead of having convictions becasue of their sin, they get mad and very defensive, to me that is a sign they care not about God nor His way. Seems if they did, they would be repenant and want nothing but forgivness from God as David did.


19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.

1 John 2:19 (KJV)



It semes to appear, if they go competely out from us, and do not come back, they were never of us.

And as you mentioned, the child of God when living in sin will get chasteing from God, if they stay in this sin, refuse to repent, and if it gets bad enough they could bring the sin unto death upon their self.

5 And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:

6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.

7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?

8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

9 Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?

Heb 12:5-9 (KJV)

16 If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.

1 John 5:16 (KJV)

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