Covid Thread (Covid topics are merged in here)

[BrotherTony]

19 hours ago, Razor said:

Is it harm to do the transplant knowing the recipient will end up destroying it and the other person will die waiting for a transplant? No matter what the original decision is, someone will be harmed. That is, to me, what makes this such a hard ethical issue.  

There is no way to know if there will be harm to the new organ...again, the medical establishment playing God where they shouldn't be. If they qualify for this, sans the question of falling in line with the Socialist ideologies of getting the jab and kissing he governments behind, they should get it. Again...NO CERTAINTY that the organ will suffer in any way. They're trying to be soothsayers here. I don't buy it.

[swathdiver]

On 1/21/2022 at 10:17 AM, BrotherTony said:

I can't say for certain, but it seems so. The attitude and the leftist posting are all there, and the total lack of respect for the moderators and administrators is there as well. Until proven otherwise, in my eyes, that's where my suspicions are.

Never forget this undeniable truth of life #357, liberals are liberals first.  This means they fall back on their ideology whether they are a nurse, policeman or even a professing Christian  in times of strife for their god is government and their belly.

[Razor]

[BrotherTony]

26 minutes ago, Razor said:

It doesn't really do us any good if you don't post the source. Looks like more manipulated data to me.

[Pastor Matt]

1 hour ago, Razor said:

I have a question about the stats you posted. Did this stat include vaccinated? If so did they previously have covid? Also, what is the age group of these vaccinated and nonvaccinated? Were any other factors in play, such as cancer?

I ask because of what is currently going on in the Northeast. 

Thank you, I look forward to these answers so I can come up with a logical, knowledgeable, and scientific opinion. 

[Razor]

44 minutes ago, PastorMatt said:

I have a question about the stats you posted. Did this stat include vaccinated? If so did they previously have covid? Also, what is the age group of these vaccinated and nonvaccinated? Were any other factors in play, such as cancer?

I ask because of what is currently going on in the Northeast. 

Thank you, I look forward to these answers so I can come up with a logical, knowledgeable, and scientific opinion. 

The display is from today's Washington Post. They do not give the source, but I am quite sure it is from the CDC. They included no article. My guess it is for all age groups throughout the country and included both vaccinated and unvaccinated. I'll try to find more information on this.

In the lower right corner there is a graphic showing the percentage of Americans who have been fully vaccinated. It does not show how many breakthrough cases there have been. 

You probably have to have a subscription to the Washington Post to see this and other articles.

Washingtonpost.com

Edited January 23, 2022 by Razor

[Pastor Matt]

6 hours ago, Razor said:

The display is from today's Washington Post. They do not give the source, but I am quite sure it is from the CDC. They included no article. My guess it is for all age groups throughout the country and included both vaccinated and unvaccinated. I'll try to find more information on this.

In the lower right corner there is a graphic showing the percentage of Americans who have been fully vaccinated. It does not show how many breakthrough cases there have been. 

You probably have to have a subscription to the Washington Post to see this and other articles.

Washingtonpost.com

With that vital information being omitted, I can't come up with a logical, knowledgeable, and scientific conclusion. I need to look at the whole picture, not just the part "they" want me to see.

[Razor]

17 hours ago, PastorMatt said:

With that vital information being omitted, I can't come up with a logical, knowledgeable, and scientific conclusion. I need to look at the whole picture, not just the part "they" want me to see.

Here is another link. I hope it helps in your research.

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#rates-by-vaccine-status

 

[Pastor Matt]

25 minutes ago, Razor said:

Here is another link. I hope it helps in your research.

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#rates-by-vaccine-status

 

Thank you, I'll take a look later today.

In other news: 

[Pastor Matt]

After reading the link, it unfortunately does not answer my questions. We keep getting general stats from the cdc and nothing specific. 

[Razor]

7 minutes ago, PastorMatt said:

After reading the link, it unfortunately does not answer my questions. We keep getting general stats from the cdc and nothing specific. 

What is the specific information you need? You may have already ask and I missed it.

[Pastor Matt]

Pretty much those that are vaccinated if they previously had break through cases of covid, and were any other factors in play with deaths for both the vaccinated and unvaccinated, such as cancer, heart disease and so forth?

[Razor]

1 hour ago, PastorMatt said:

Pretty much those that are vaccinated if they previously had break through cases of covid, and were any other factors in play with deaths for both the vaccinated and unvaccinated, such as cancer, heart disease and so forth?

I hope this link helps.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/need-extra-precautions/people-with-medical-conditions.html

[BrotherTony]

4 minutes ago, Razor said:

I hope this link helps.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/need-extra-precautions/people-with-medical-conditions.html

Anything from the CDC should be taken with a huge grain of salt...especially in light of all the lies they've told over the past 24+ months.

[Razor]

New York (CNN Business)A judge on Monday delayed Sarah Palin's defamation trial against The New York Times by 10 days to February 3, after the 2008 Republican U.S. vice presidential candidate and former Alaska governor tested positive for the coronavirus.

The delay was announced by U.S. District Judge Jed Rakoff in Manhattan at a hearing.

Rakoff first announced that Palin had tested positive earlier Monday morning. "She is, of course, unvaccinated," Rakoff said then.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/24/media/sarah-palin-covid-positive/index.html