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      Psalms 119:1-8                                         Sep. 5 - Oct. 2, 2019
      1 ALEPH. Blessed are the undefiled in the way, who walk in the law of the LORD.
      2 Blessed are they that keep his testimonies, and that seek him with the whole heart.
      3 They also do no iniquity: they walk in his ways.
      4 Thou hast commanded us to keep thy precepts diligently.
      5 O that my ways were directed to keep thy statutes!
      6 Then shall I not be ashamed, when I have respect unto all thy commandments.
      7 I will praise thee with uprightness of heart, when I shall have learned thy righteous judgments.
      8 I will keep thy statutes: O forsake me not utterly.
      The following verse stood out to me...
      5 O that my ways were directed to keep thy statutes!
      At first glance it seemed to me this person’s soul is poured out with intense desire to have God’s direction in keeping His Word.
      I made a small wood fire in our backyard for my granddaughter, Julia, since she would be staying overnight with us. My wife and Julia stayed outside at the fire for about half an hour. Then, I found myself alone to watch the fire die out on a particularly lovely evening. So I took my verse from above and began to repeat it for memorization. As I repeated the verse, I tried to contemplate the words and apply them to what I was seeing around me. 
      The moon and stars were out now peering through the scattered clouds above.
      [Genesis 1:16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. Genesis 1:17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, Genesis 1:18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.]
      Thought 1         
      The moon has stayed his course since the day God created him, also the stars, obeying the statutes directed by God from the first day they were created. Can you imagine God’s direction to the Moon and stars, “moon you will have a path through the sky above the earth, stars you will occupy the firmament above the moon and be clearly visible in the cloudless night sky.”
      Then, the trees, grass, even the air we breathe obey the statues God gave them from the beginning. None of these creations have souls, none have hearts, none have intelligence, but they all observe God’s statutes, His instructions for their limited time on earth.
      Thought 2
      What if we were like the moon, stars, trees, grass, or the other creations which have no soul? We would be directed to keep God’s statutes without choosing to keep them. This is not the image of God, there would be no dominion over other creatures, or over the earth. We would not be capable of experiencing the joy and peace of learning the love of God
      Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
      Philippians 4:7 And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.
      Thought 3 (October 2, 2019)
      Is the psalmist pleading God to force God’s statutes to become the man’s ways? No, he is speaking of his own failure in keeping God’s statutes and his desire to keep them, very much like Paul in Romans 7:14-25.
      God doesn’t work through force to turn men from their ways that they would desire His statutes or desire God Himself. Men must reject (repent) put aside his own ways and voluntarily seek God and His statutes.

Cloven tongues like as of fire

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Acts.2

[1] And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.
[2] And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.
[3] And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.

 

What does cloven tongues like as of fire means?

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Just think of a campfire. You look at the fire and it is not even, you see different peaks of fire coming up. That is the "cloven" aspect of what the Scripture calls cloven tongues.

So, the picture that Rebecca supplied it probably  a pretty close facsimile.

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5 hours ago, E Morales said:

Amazing seeing something so different like this. Will this ever happen again, thanks.

If I am understanding what you ask, the answer is no. This was the empowering of the church as the institution that Jesus founded. His church has already been empowered on the day of Pentecost to carry out His work and there is no need for further empowering. The was only one day of Pentecost, so only one event is needed.

I hope I understood what you were asking.

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44 minutes ago, Jim_Alaska said:

If I am understanding what you ask, the answer is no. This was the empowering of the church as the institution that Jesus founded. His church has already been empowered on the day of Pentecost to carry out His work and there is no need for further empowering. The was only one day of Pentecost, so only one event is needed.

I hope I understood what you were asking.

Yes, you answer my question thanks. But if it will never happen again, I'm not sure. I believe in the last days God will let man do mighty and great things again. In my opinion, not in the bible, like it will never happen again is not in the bible.

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13 minutes ago, Hugh_Flower said:

Morales I believe there is actually scriptural evidence for this to happen again during revelation. When again, the Jews will be baptized for their forgiveness of their sins, like in early acts

 

This "baptism" is something quite different from the Holy Ghost empowering the church as an institution. The bible speaks of different kinds of baptisms and for different reasons. 

Baptism is NEVER a condition for salvation, no matter who it is that is being baptized; speaking of your statement of the Jews being baptized for forgiveness of their sins. Yes, all Israel will be saved, but not by baptism, but by the very same blood as we, the blood of Jesus, when they realize that Jesus really was The Messiah that they had denied.

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1 hour ago, Jim_Alaska said:

This "baptism" is something quite different from the Holy Ghost empowering the church as an institution. The bible speaks of different kinds of baptisms and for different reasons. 

Baptism is NEVER a condition for salvation, no matter who it is that is being baptized; speaking of your statement of the Jews being baptized for forgiveness of their sins. Yes, all Israel will be saved, but not by baptism, but by the very same blood as we, the blood of Jesus, when they realize that Jesus really was The Messiah that they had denied.

Peter makes it clear that the Jews will have to be baptized with the baptism unto repentance for the forgiveness of sins to be saved as a nation. Yes, the blood of Christ will be involved but they can trample under foot and consider unclean the blood of the covenant as mention in Hebrews. Their salvation will be completed when the Lord returns as Peter mentioned in his epistle. 

The church will be complete and in heaven when this occurs. There will be no sealing of the Spirit except for the 144,000 virgins. 

This is why it's called the Great Tribulation. It will be a trial of all the souls of men unlike the age we live in.

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2 hours ago, Jim_Alaska said:

This "baptism" is something quite different from the Holy Ghost empowering the church as an institution. The bible speaks of different kinds of baptisms and for different reasons. 

Baptism is NEVER a condition for salvation, no matter who it is that is being baptized; speaking of your statement of the Jews being baptized for forgiveness of their sins. Yes, all Israel will be saved, but not by baptism, but by the very same blood as we, the blood of Jesus, when they realize that Jesus really was The Messiah that they had denied.

You are not wrong, you are just talking about a different dispensation. Early acts and during Christ’s life Jews had to be baptized to be saved, tribulation saints are not the Church, and they will have a different method of salvation, which is the same method before the the Holy Spirit came and sealed them.

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2 hours ago, Hugh_Flower said:

You are not wrong, you are just talking about a different dispensation. Early acts and during Christ’s life Jews had to be baptized to be saved, tribulation saints are not the Church, and they will have a different method of salvation, which is the same method before the the Holy Spirit came and sealed them.

This is the only way it can be explained other than saying Peter was mistaken or just twisting the passage to make it say something it doesn't. Or the third option, name calling 

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SureWord,

You are deflecting and changing the subject. The subject was that the Jews had to be baptized to be saved, not to receive the Holy Ghost, as you stated.

It is difficult for me to believe that a Baptist would ever say that anyone had to be baptized to be saved, or that there was a "different method of salvation". But difficult or not, I have now heard a "supposed" Baptist say it. A sad day indeed.

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