Do you have any problem with this photo?

[John Young]

The book each one holds makes all the difference.

[Martyr_4_FutureJoy]

Yes,  those holding a Bible have shown themselves to be far far worse and more vicious murderers than most terrorists .

Holding a Bible,  claiming to be God's representatives on earth,  millions were slaughtered without mercy.

Far worse morally and far more in number than Iran or other called terrorists today.

excerpts of a few of them: 

• Like today, lying was morally acceptable to Christians then. "Peace treaties were signed with every intention to violate them: when the Indians 'grow secure uppon (sic) the treatie', advised the Council of State in Virginia, 'we shall have the better Advantage both to surprise them, & cutt downe theire Corne'." [SH106]
• In 1624 sixty heavily armed Englishmen cut down 800 defenseless Indian men, women and children. [SH107]
• In a single massacre in "King Philip's War" of 1675 and 1676 some "600 Indians were destroyed. A delighted Cotton Mather, revered pastor of the Second Church in Boston, later referred to the slaughter as a 'barbeque'." [SH115]
• To summarize: Before the arrival of the English, the western Abenaki people in New Hampshire and Vermont had numbered 12,000. Less than half a century later about 250 remained alive - a destruction rate of 98%. The Pocumtuck people had numbered more than 18,000, fifty years later they were down to 920 - 95% destroyed. The Quiripi-Unquachog people had numbered about
  30,000, fifty years later they were down to 1500 - 95% destroyed. The Massachusetts people had numbered at least 44,000, fifty years later barely 6000 were alive - 81% destroyed. [SH118] These are only a few examples of the multitude of tribes living before Christian colonists set their foot on the New World. All this was before the smallpox epidemics of 1677 and 1678 had occurred. And the carnage was not over then.
• All the above was only the beginning of the European colonization, it was before the frontier age actually had begun.
• A total of maybe more than 150 million Indians (of both Americas) were destroyed in the period of 1500 to 1900, as an average two thirds by smallpox and other epidemics, that leaves some 50 million killed directly by violence, bad treatment and slavery.
• In many countries, such as Brazil, and Guatemala,
• this continues even today.

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• "Like today, lying was morally acceptable to Christians then. "Peace treaties were signed with every intention to violate them: when the Indians 'grow secure uppon (sic) the treatie', advised the Council of State in Virginia, 'we shall have the better Advantage both to surprise them, & cutt downe theire Corne'." [SH106]
• In 1624 sixty heavily armed Englishmen cut down 800 defenseless Indian men, women and children. [SH107]
• In a single massacre in "King Philip's War" of 1675 and 1676 some "600 Indians were destroyed. A delighted Cotton Mather, revered pastor of the Second Church in Boston, later referred to the slaughter as a 'barbeque'." [SH115]
• To summarize: Before the arrival of the English, the western Abenaki people in New Hampshire and Vermont had numbered 12,000. Less than half a century later about 250 remained alive - a destruction rate of 98%. The Pocumtuck people had numbered more than 18,000, fifty years later they were down to 920 - 95% destroyed. The Quiripi-Unquachog people had numbered about
  30,000, fifty years later they were down to 1500 - 95% destroyed. The Massachusetts people had numbered at least 44,000, fifty years later barely 6000 were alive - 81% destroyed. [SH118] These are only a few examples of the multitude of tribes living before Christian colonists set their foot on the New World. All this was before the smallpox epidemics of 1677 and 1678 had occurred. And the carnage was not over then.
• All the above was only the beginning of the European colonization, it was before the frontier age actually had begun.

 

• A total of maybe more than 150 million Indians (of both Americas) were destroyed in the period of 1500 to 1900, as an average two thirds by smallpox and other epidemics, that leaves some 50 million killed directly by violence, bad treatment and slavery.
• In many countries, such as Brazil, and Guatemala, this continues even today."

[TheGloryLand]

12 hours ago, Hugh_Flower said:

Love this thread.

One guy misusing Scripture  and another reading political beliefs into the Bible.

 

Give to Cesar what is Cesar, and to the Lord that is of the Lord. Welcome to the real World.

[TheGloryLand]

On 9/4/2021 at 10:12 AM, Bouncing Bill said:

Yes. It is contradictory. There is nothing Christian about it.

It’s not Christian, but is there anything evil in this photo for you?

[Bouncing Bill]

1 hour ago, E Morales said:

It’s not Christian, but is there anything evil in this photo for you?

Yes, the implication of killing others is evil. There is no need for a person to have such a rifle.

[TheGloryLand]

10 minutes ago, Bouncing Bill said:

Yes, the implication of killing others is evil. There is no need for a person to have such a rifle.

The rifle is not evil, this rifle can be over 20 years old. It has not kill anyone at all. Why? It’s the owner that makes it evil. Like the Bible we carry, if it’s in the wrong hands, it can send many good people to a place called Hell. 
 

Is this true or false, what I’m saying to you.

[Martyr_4_FutureJoy]

3 hours ago, Bouncing Bill said:

Yes, the implication of killing others is evil. There is no need for a person to have such a rifle.

Amen.

Also,  if thousands,  or ten people,  or millions,  are caused to stumble by the photo,  and things associated with the photo,   then would not that make it evil/ sinful ?  

[Bouncing Bill]

10 hours ago, E Morales said:

The rifle is not evil, this rifle can be over 20 years old. It has not kill anyone at all. Why? It’s the owner that makes it evil. Like the Bible we carry, if it’s in the wrong hands, it can send many good people to a place called Hell. 
 

Is this true or false, what I’m saying to you.

It is not a sporting rifle. It is designed and built to kill people. No one has a need for one. If it wasn't built no wrong hands would ever hold it.

[SureWord]

1 hour ago, Bouncing Bill said:

It is not a sporting rifle. It is designed and built to kill people. 

Wrong. 

 

[Pastor Matt]

One of the ten commandments is "Thou shalt not kill", not that shall not own anything that can kill. We find in Scripture that God allows us to own weapons. Luke 22:37-39, 

[Bouncing Bill]

2 hours ago, SureWord said:

Wrong. 

 

Well, I would prefer making my hamburger with a proper machine, not an automatic assault rifle. 

A sword is not an assault rifle. The only intended use of an assault rifle is to kill people, innocent and otherwise. A sword has many uses other than killing people. 

[TheGloryLand]

Weapons are not for everyone, especially if you are afraid to use it. Safety and training is first, and I do support permit to have one.

[Martyr_4_FutureJoy]

On 9/4/2021 at 9:12 AM, Bouncing Bill said:

Yes. It is contradictory. There is nothing Christian about it.

Amen Bill.   But that's also true of most experiences and most topics in most places daily,  like the daily news for example.  

[Bouncing Bill]

7 hours ago, E Morales said:

Weapons are not for everyone, especially if you are afraid to use it. Safety and training is first, and I do support permit to have one.

No one should have an assault rifle. Hunting rifles and shotguns are another matter. Assault weapons should not be legal.

[TheGloryLand]

2 minutes ago, Bouncing Bill said:

No one should have an assault rifle. Hunting rifles and shotguns are another matter. Assault weapons should not be legal.

If these rifles were all removed from the owners and thieves started using shot guns or hand guns. Would you want theses taken away also.