Members Martyr_4_FutureJoy Posted July 7, 2021 Members Share Posted July 7, 2021 I've seen a lot of posts, news items, media coverage, reports from other countries and from medical conferances for over a thousand doctors (licensed) in the usa that have shown the abortificant effects (causes miscarriages, now even in people who did not get the shot, but just were in same household /area) of flu shots , including cvd, and others, for many decades. Why was that allowed to continue for so long, and today in today's shots ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John Young Posted July 7, 2021 Members Share Posted July 7, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, jeff_student_of_Jesus said: (and no increase in suicides, abuse, crime, drug use, and so on that happened because of the isolation/ shutdowns) (beside no loss of businesses as well) I agree in regards to the government lockdowns. Those were designed by china and implemented through the WHO an then the CDC advised the states to follow them. Those were wrong and they should have followed normal procedures. The states that did saw better results by far. Edited July 7, 2021 by John Young Martyr_4_FutureJoy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Martyr_4_FutureJoy Posted July 7, 2021 Members Share Posted July 7, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, John Young said: I agree in regards to the government lockdowns. Those were designed by china and implemented through the WHO an then the CDC advised the states to follow them. Those were a wrong and they should have followed normal procedures. The states that did saw better results by far. Do you remember "normal procedures" in 1960, or in 1990, when people got the flu ? Stay home from school. Get hot chicken noodle soup. Push fluids. Rest. (oh, how could I forget the oldest: frequent spoonfuls in water of apple cider vinegar with honey; probably the best and oldest remedy ever) Edited July 7, 2021 by jeff_student_of_Jesus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Martyr_4_FutureJoy Posted July 7, 2021 Members Share Posted July 7, 2021 22 minutes ago, jeff_student_of_Jesus said: Do you remember "normal procedures" in 1960, or in 1990, when people got the flu ? Stay home from school. Get hot chicken noodle soup. Push fluids. Rest. (oh, how could I forget the oldest: frequent spoonfuls in water of apple cider vinegar with honey; probably the best and oldest remedy ever) From all the above, standard, routine, normal , well accepted, well known way to handle an illness, How many people commited suicide, had a miscarriage, increased drug overdose, committed more crime, lost their entire business and businesses of their neighbors, shopkeepers, etc etc etc and went into debt more than many houses cost ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John Young Posted July 7, 2021 Members Share Posted July 7, 2021 (edited) 47 minutes ago, jeff_student_of_Jesus said: "normal procedures" Quarantine of the sick and not the healthy. Implementation of basic social distancing while keeping in mind civil liberties. Encouraging social commitment etc. The lockdowns were not normal. Rather they created intentional bottle necks and hot zones and unnecessarily harmed people's lives, health and businesses. Such as limiting of store hours forcing people into crowded times and making people stand in line or forcing those with shared units and shared air-conditioning systems into staying with infected people. ect The last one alone is why the numbers and reactions were more sever among nursing homes and assisted living and those in tenement apartment buildings. Edited July 7, 2021 by John Young SureWord and Salyan 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SureWord Posted July 8, 2021 Members Share Posted July 8, 2021 3 hours ago, John Young said: Quarantine of the sick and not the healthy. Implementation of basic social distancing while keeping in mind civil liberties. Encouraging social commitment etc. The lockdowns were not normal. Rather they created intentional bottle necks and hot zones and unnecessarily harmed people's lives, health and businesses. Such as limiting of store hours forcing people into crowded times and making people stand in line or forcing those with shared units and shared air-conditioning systems into staying with infected people. ect The last one alone is why the numbers and reactions were more sever among nursing homes and assisted living and those in tenement apartment buildings. The largest transfer of wealth in modern history happened during the lockdowns. The billionaires made out like bandits BrotherTony and John Young 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1Timothy115 Posted July 8, 2021 Members Share Posted July 8, 2021 8 hours ago, Bouncing Bill said: Reminds me of the story of the man on the roof of his house during a flood. A man stopped his pickup and offered to take him to safety. He refused saying, "The Lord will save me." The water kept rising. A boat came along and offered to take him to safety. He refused saying, "The Lord will save me." Later, with water lapping at his feet a helicopter hovered and offered to take him to safety. He refused saying, "The Lord will save me." He drown in the flood. When he entered heaven he said to God. "I had great faith you would save me. Why did you let me drown?" The Lord replied, "You were not supposed to die. I sent a pickup, a boat and a helicopter to save you. Why didn't you take the help I sent?" I heard that joke before. However, my Lord is no joke. Blessed be the name of my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. 8 hours ago, BrotherTony said: May I use this card??? I like this! Go for it and modify if you like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1Timothy115 Posted July 8, 2021 Members Share Posted July 8, 2021 8 hours ago, Bouncing Bill said: Who is they? And give me a credible source on both statements. How much did Trump's supports cost when they sacked the capital building. And what Biden riots are you talking about? No, no relocation, no reeducation camps, no forces vaccines. Just give each denier a Darwin Award. Hey, if you earned it hang on to it. I heard they mutate into liberals-then socialists after only a few decades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BrotherTony Posted July 8, 2021 Author Members Share Posted July 8, 2021 (edited) Though I can't see BB's posts except for what is quoted...BB, either get back on the topic of this thread, or go start your own, please. Thanks. Edited July 8, 2021 by BrotherTony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouncing Bill Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 8 hours ago, SureWord said: The largest transfer of wealth in modern history happened during the lockdowns. The billionaires made out like bandits And they certainly benefitted from Trump's tax cuts for the super rich. I am not sure your statement is correct. Can you give me a credible source for this information? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BrotherTony Posted July 8, 2021 Author Members Share Posted July 8, 2021 39 minutes ago, Bouncing Bill said: And they certainly benefitted from Trump's tax cuts for the super rich. I am not sure your statement is correct. Can you give me a credible source for this information? This IS NOT what this thread was created for, BB. Start your own thread....this is the last time I am asking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Pastor Matt Posted July 8, 2021 Administrators Share Posted July 8, 2021 54 minutes ago, Bouncing Bill said: And they certainly benefitted from Trump's tax cuts for the super rich. I am not sure your statement is correct. Can you give me a credible source for this information? I say this with respect, but it is all over the news (even some liberal news outlets) that the rich have gotten much richer. If you need me to post links then I will. Government closes down small business and then gives people stimulus money where the majority went to the rich. The only places open was big business to spend the money. This is another topic. Please don't respond here so we can keep this on track. Pleas start a new thread if you wish to discuss how the democrats purposely increased the wealth gap between the rich and the poor. Back on topic, has anyone see the news story where a perfectly healthy 13 year old boy that died 2 days after getting the vaccine? No worries the CDC is investigating and the death will probably go down as something other thank covid death. CDC investigating death of 13-year-old boy after second covid shot (yahoo.com) BrotherTony and SureWord 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouncing Bill Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 9 hours ago, 1Timothy115 said: I heard that joke before. However, my Lord is no joke. Blessed be the name of my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. Go for it and modify if you like. It was not a joke. It was and is a parable giving a deep theological truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1Timothy115 Posted July 15, 2021 Members Share Posted July 15, 2021 On 7/8/2021 at 8:03 AM, Bouncing Bill said: It was not a joke. It was and is a parable giving a deep theological truth. I think it might be close to that, in the right context, but not in this case of a government requirement to be vaccinated...God doesn't send us help through coercion and threatening's. "Whosoever will" is the method from God. BrotherTony 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SureWord Posted July 15, 2021 Members Share Posted July 15, 2021 (edited) On 7/8/2021 at 6:47 AM, PastorMatt said: I say this with respect, but it is all over the news (even some liberal news outlets) that the rich have gotten much richer. If you need me to post links then I will. Government closes down small business and then gives people stimulus money where the majority went to the rich. The only places open was big business to spend the money. This is another topic. Please don't respond here so we can keep this on track. Pleas start a new thread if you wish to discuss how the democrats purposely increased the wealth gap between the rich and the poor. Back on topic, has anyone see the news story where a perfectly healthy 13 year old boy that died 2 days after getting the vaccine? No worries the CDC is investigating and the death will probably go down as something other thank covid death. CDC investigating death of 13-year-old boy after second covid shot (yahoo.com) The largest transfer of wealth in modern history took place during the lockdowns. Gates became the single largest owner of farmland during this time. That was the purpose of the lockdown. It's all spelled out in Klaus Schwab's book. This is no conspiracy theory. They are not even making an attempt to hide it. Lockdowns are for the "Great Reset". "You will own nothing and you will be happy" is the World Economic Forum's motto. Edited July 15, 2021 by SureWord BrotherTony 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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