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1 hour ago, Baptistsenior said:

I asked my old IFB Pastor once if we were Calvanist or Arminian  I won't tell his answer cause I want your thoughts  

So, are you asking what I would consider myself?  If so, I would answer --

1.  I am a ZERO point Calvinist (in relation to the doctrine of salvation).
2.  I am a THREE point Arminian (in relation to the doctrine of salvation) (because three of the points are mutually exclusive, being an either/or proposition, having no third option).
3.  I am TWO points neither, and thus am not actually either Calvinist or Arminian in my doctrinal system (in relation to the doctrine of salvation). 
4.  In fact, I would simply say that I seek to be Biblical in my system of belief, and thus will hold to any point from any system that I find to be Biblical, but will stand contrary to any point from any system that I find to be unbiblical.  (Note: This includes whether I find a point to be unbiblical in the Calvinist system, Arminian system, or even Fundamental Baptist system.  I am not bound under the authority of any system or movement.  Rather, I am bound under the authority of GOD'S HOLY WORD!!!)

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On 12/23/2020 at 4:25 PM, SureWord said:

Someone once said they were:

Arminian before the cross and Calvinist after the cross.

There's a lot of truth in that statement.

I fail to see any truth in that statement. 

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35 minutes ago, Jordan Kurecki said:

I fail to see any truth in that statement. 

I explained what the preacher meant in another thread. He was being tongue-in-cheek.

He was inferring that a man has freewill (Arminian) to reject Christ's gift of salvation ("before the cross") but no freewill (Calvinism) to reject Christ after he has been saved ("after the cross).

Therefore, concerning the question whether he was Arminian or Calvinist he said:

"Arminian before the cross, Calvinist after the cross".

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On 1/7/2021 at 1:41 PM, SureWord said:

I explained what the preacher meant in another thread. He was being tongue-in-cheek.

He was inferring that a man has freewill (Arminian) to reject Christ's gift of salvation ("before the cross") but no freewill (Calvinism) to reject Christ after he has been saved ("after the cross).

Therefore, concerning the question whether he was Arminian or Calvinist he said:

"Arminian before the cross, Calvinist after the cross".

Oh OK friend, I thought you were trying to imply that salvation was by works in the old testament and by grace in the new which the Bible absolutely does not teach.

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