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      Psalms 119:1-8                                         Sep. 5 - Oct. 2, 2019
      1 ALEPH. Blessed are the undefiled in the way, who walk in the law of the LORD.
      2 Blessed are they that keep his testimonies, and that seek him with the whole heart.
      3 They also do no iniquity: they walk in his ways.
      4 Thou hast commanded us to keep thy precepts diligently.
      5 O that my ways were directed to keep thy statutes!
      6 Then shall I not be ashamed, when I have respect unto all thy commandments.
      7 I will praise thee with uprightness of heart, when I shall have learned thy righteous judgments.
      8 I will keep thy statutes: O forsake me not utterly.
      The following verse stood out to me...
      5 O that my ways were directed to keep thy statutes!
      At first glance it seemed to me this person’s soul is poured out with intense desire to have God’s direction in keeping His Word.
      I made a small wood fire in our backyard for my granddaughter, Julia, since she would be staying overnight with us. My wife and Julia stayed outside at the fire for about half an hour. Then, I found myself alone to watch the fire die out on a particularly lovely evening. So I took my verse from above and began to repeat it for memorization. As I repeated the verse, I tried to contemplate the words and apply them to what I was seeing around me. 
      The moon and stars were out now peering through the scattered clouds above.
      [Genesis 1:16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. Genesis 1:17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, Genesis 1:18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.]
      Thought 1         
      The moon has stayed his course since the day God created him, also the stars, obeying the statutes directed by God from the first day they were created. Can you imagine God’s direction to the Moon and stars, “moon you will have a path through the sky above the earth, stars you will occupy the firmament above the moon and be clearly visible in the cloudless night sky.”
      Then, the trees, grass, even the air we breathe obey the statues God gave them from the beginning. None of these creations have souls, none have hearts, none have intelligence, but they all observe God’s statutes, His instructions for their limited time on earth.
      Thought 2
      What if we were like the moon, stars, trees, grass, or the other creations which have no soul? We would be directed to keep God’s statutes without choosing to keep them. This is not the image of God, there would be no dominion over other creatures, or over the earth. We would not be capable of experiencing the joy and peace of learning the love of God
      Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
      Philippians 4:7 And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.
      Thought 3 (October 2, 2019)
      Is the psalmist pleading God to force God’s statutes to become the man’s ways? No, he is speaking of his own failure in keeping God’s statutes and his desire to keep them, very much like Paul in Romans 7:14-25.
      God doesn’t work through force to turn men from their ways that they would desire His statutes or desire God Himself. Men must reject (repent) put aside his own ways and voluntarily seek God and His statutes.

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On 12/9/2020 at 6:04 PM, SureWord said:

Let me see if I can be more clear. 

Brother "SureWord,"

I thank you for your efforts to be more clear concerning your position on the differences between "the kingdom of heaven" and "the kingdom of God."  However, your posting did not actually answer the questions for which I am seeking answers.  Thus I shall slow down and begin to ask my questions one at a time.

In your postings and explanations above, you have indicated your viewpoint that "the kingdom of heaven" is "the physical, literal Abrahamic, Davidic kingdom of God on earth."  Furthermore, you have indicated your viewpoint that "the kingdom of God" is "the spiritual kingdom of God that all believers enter into through the blood of Christ."  Finally, you have indicated your viewpoint that "the mystery kingdom" is the "literal kingdom [the kingdom of heaven] in its spiritual form on earth now."

Here then is my first question -- Since in your viewpoint "the kingdom of God" is a "spiritual" kingdom, and since in your viewpoint "the mystery kingdom" is a "spiritual form" of "the kingdom of heaven," would this mean in your viewpoint that "the kingdom of God" and "the mystery kingdom" are equivalent (the same) to one another?  

(Note: If your answer to the question above is negative, then I would further request an explanation as to their differences in your viewpoint.)

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On 12/9/2020 at 6:04 PM, SureWord said:

Let me see if I can be more clear. 

1) The kingdom of heaven-physical. Heaven is physical.

2) The kingdom of God-spiritual. God is a spirit. 

Brother "SureWord,"

In the quote above your provide your evidence that "the kingdom of heaven" is "physical" - because "heaven is physical."

First, I would ask if you have any other Biblical evidence for your viewpoint that "the kingdom of heaven" is "physical."

Second, I would contend that you are incorrect about the nature of heaven.  Heaven is not physical.  Heaven is spiritual.  Heaven is the habitation of spiritual beings.  God is a spirit (as you mention in your quote above).  The angels are spirit-beings.  The believers who are now dead and in heaven are there in spirit-form, for the resurrection of their bodies has not yet occurred.  In fact, even in the resurrection of believers, according to 1 Corinthians 15:42-44, our bodies that are "sown" as "a natural [physical] body" will be raised as "a spiritual body."  ("So also is the resurrection of the dead.  It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: it is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: it is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual bodyThere is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.")

Since I cannot agree that "heaven is physical," using such as evidence that "the kingdom of heaven" is "physical" is empty evidence from my perspective.  Thus I request some other Biblical evidence for your viewpoint on the matter.

Actually, if I take up your presented manner of evidence, I would be compelled to view the matter as follows:

1) The kingdom of heaven-spiritual: because heaven is spiritual.
2) The kingdom of God-spiritual: because God is a spirit.

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