Divorce, Re-Marriage, Adultery, and the Ministry

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5 minutes ago, Ukulelemike said:

The only way one can be "blameless" is if they are born again and all their sin and blame is under the blood of Christ. 

 

Romans 4:8

“Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.”

King James Version (KJV)

[Martyr_4_FutureJoy]

@Ukulelemike said (over 20 minutes ago now. I could not reply on the thread it was in)

"Posted 20 minutes ago

Curious as to how we understand wI hat Jesus meant here:

John 4:

15-18: "The woman saith unto him, Sir, give me this water, that I thirst not, neither come hither to draw. Jesus saith unto her, Go, call thy husband, and come hither. The woman answered and said, I have no husband. Jesus said unto her, Thou hast well said, I have no husband: For thou hast had five husbands; and he whom thou now hast is not thy husband: in that saidst thou truly."

So Jesus, apparently, by His own words, recognizes that this Samaritan woman has had 5 husbands, and is currently with a man that He, himself, differentiates, for some reason, as NOT her husband. IF we are recognized as married only once, (unless five of her husbands have all died), why does Jesus recognize all 5 as husbands? And why not the current one? I realize that all we can do is speculate, (ie, all 5 died), but if not, why does He recognize them all as husbands?"

What would have been in keeping with Torah at the time ?    Could she have had 5 husbands according to Torah?  (one after another )

Like posted,  yes,  if they had each died, one after another.   Suppose for instance they were all brothers.  (not uncommon then).    And when one died,  wasn't a brother obligated to marry her in the appropriate time ?

I'm not sure, and it is not stated, per se.   Likewise the man she is with,  how is he not her husband ?   Because they did not have a marriage ceremony ?

Is Jesus bringing all this up to hold (impute) sin against her ?   

Or is He showing her the Living Water,  Himself as Messiah, The Way to be forgiven (blameless?) , never be thirsty again ?

[Ukulelemike]

7 hours ago, jeff_student_of_Jesus said:

 

Or is He showing her the Living Water,  Himself as Messiah, The Way to be forgiven (blameless?) , never be thirsty again ?

Exactly! Forgiveness! To be blameless! This is my whole point on divorce-too many treat it as unforgivable, yet even if this woman had had five husbands and divorced from each, she can be forgiven. Divorce and remarriage is not necessarily wrong, even by scriptural standards.

Here's another incident to consider, (yes, it is OT, but there it is).
 

"And Ezra the priest stood up, and said unto them, Ye have transgressed, and have taken strange wives, to increase the trespass of Israel. Now therefore make confession unto the LORD God of your fathers, and do his pleasure: and separate yourselves from the people of the land, and from the strange wives. Then all the congregation answered and said with a loud voice, As thou hast said, so must we do." Ezra 10:10-12

Now, yes, by the law, they were 'strange wives", they were of other nations, something specifically forbidden by the law. HOWEVER, isn't the argument many make that, even if a believer marries an unbeliever, somehow it becomes okay in God's eyes, and they ought never divorce, even though it is specifically forbidden to be unequally yoked by NT standards? In the NT, granted, it is dealt with, that is the unbeliever departs, let them depart, a brother is not under bondage in such instances-therefore, the believer who is abandoned and divorced by an unbelieving spouse is not bound to that person, and thus, should be able to marry again.

 

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Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;  And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. (2Tim 4:2-4)  

 

A few examples of several or many(/few)  blameless in Scripture:

 

Tit 1:7

For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God; not selfwilled, not soon angry, not given to wine, no striker, not given to filthy lucre;

2Pe 3:14

Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.

 

Mat 12:5

Or have ye not read in the law, how that on the sabbath days the priests in the temple profane the sabbath, and are blameless?

Luk 1:6

And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.

1Co 1:8

Who shall also confirm you unto the end, that ye may be blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Phl 2:15

That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke,

 

in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;