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From what I have tried to learn on the internet, Matt McMillen ministries is mostly writing devotional books. Here is the link: https://mattmcmillenministries.com/about/

I read several of his devotions. From what I can gather is that he is contemporary in his writings. On one devotion, he believed heaven was "in us" but was hesitant to say it was a place; but it was a place where God dwells. In the same devotion, for the unsaved, they did not have heaven, but, Matt did not mention a place called hell, or even mention hell.

The devotions that I read were somewhat confusing as if he did not want to offend anybody. There was no doctrinal statement that I could find.

As far as his background was concerned. Matt McMillen's background was also confusing. Evidently, I cannot say positively,  he graduated from a Southern Baptist University in Texas, was a "Student pastor" at "FiveStone Community Church" in Garland, Texas. "FiveStone Community Church is a hard-core contemporary church, again, with no doctrinal statement. 7/22/19 update: Although Matt has not answered my personal e-mail as of 7/22/19, after a further search, I was able to sort out part of, not all, of the confusion concerning Matt McMillen's background. Matt McMillen is a different person from the Matt at FiveStone Church. Alan

In my estimation, he is in the religious book selling business trying to make a profit from anybody who goes to any church.

Edited by Alan
spelling added the 7/22/19 update (red coloring)

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Just now, Matt McMillen said:

Hi guys, Matt McMillen here. None of the stuff in this thread is accurate about me. If you want more information, just shoot me an email at matt@mattmcmillen.com 

Have a great day! 

Matt,

Thank you for coming on Online Baptist and giving us your e-mail so we can get more accurate information concerning you and your ministry. 

Alan

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On 6/9/2019 at 7:02 PM, Alan said:

From what I have tried to learn on the internet, Matt McMillen ministries is mostly writing devotional books. Here is the link: https://mattmcmillenministries.com/about/

I read several of his devotions. From what I can gather is that he is contemporary in his writings. On one devotion, he believed heaven was "in us" but was hesitant to say it was a place; but it was a place where God dwells. In the same devotion, for the unsaved, they did not have heaven, but, Matt did not mention a place called hell, or even mention hell.

The devotions that I read were somewhat confusing as if he did not want to offend anybody. There was no doctrinal statement that I could find.

As far as his background was concerned. Matt McMillen's background was also confusing. Evidently, I cannot say positively,  he graduated from a Southern Baptist University in Texas, was a "Student pastor" at "FiveStone Community Church" in Garland, Texas. "FiveStone Community Church is a hard-core contemporary church, again, with no doctrinal statement.

In my estimation, he is in the religious book selling business trying to make a profit from anybody who goes to any church.

 

On 7/18/2019 at 7:13 AM, Matt McMillen said:

Hi guys, Matt McMillen here. None of the stuff in this thread is accurate about me. If you want more information, just shoot me an email at matt@mattmcmillen.com 

Have a great day! 

Matt,

As I expressed in my personal message to you here on Online Baptist, I would send you a personal e-mail to your matt@mcmillen.com address once I set up our e-mail account here in the States. We just returned from overseas today and I am still in the process of setting up our home and office. 

Just a few minutes ago I was able to send you an e-mail requesting information concerning your ministry and to try and ascertain exactly what information was not accurate in my 6/9/2019 post as quoted above. 

You clearly stated, "None of the stuff in this thread is accurate about me." But, you did not give one example. To me, that is wrong and not honest. When you accuse a person in a public forum of stating an inaccurate statement and not give the reason why the individual gave an inaccurate statement, in public, and then tell everyone to send a private e-mail stating why the individual stated an inaccurate statement, that is wrong. Again, what you did was wrong. If you are going to accuse us, and me as I made a statement, than you need to publicly state your doctrinal statement, background, ministry, the church you are affiliated with, publicly.

I did review your mattmcmillenministries.com/about/ website, and as far as I can read, I cannot accept your statement that all that I said was inaccurate. On your website you have no doctrinal statement, no background information, and no church affiliation statement.

As far as I am concerned, your statement, "None of the stuff in this thread is accurate about me" was publicly stated as a fact without publicly stating why ALL our statements were inaccurate, was wrong and dishonest.

Alan

Edited by Alan
added 'was wrong and dishonest.' grammar

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On 6/8/2019 at 8:16 PM, 1Timothy115 said:

Does anyone know anything about this guy? It seems he is growing in popularity. 

Had a quick look at his website, and a few things come up to me.

Most on this website are pretty clear about the KJV issue, and this is a FANTASTIC example.....

******* This is from the NIV, and is the title verse of one of his devotions. “Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, the new creation has come: The old has gone, the new is here!”  2 Corinthians 5:17*******

This is the KJV: 2Co 5:17 (17)  Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

Now, if you compare the two versions, you see some GLARING differences in substance.

"The new creation has come" is a very different statement to "he is a new creature". One (the KJV) designates the one in Christ as becoming a new creature, the other (the NIV) talks of some undefined new creation having come - but there is no idea from the passage what this new creation is or what it is doing.

A fantastic example why the KJV issue is not a side issue.

 

Secondly, I am always wary when a Christian site deliberately leave off any kind of statement of faith or list of basic beliefs. I wonder what they are trying to keep secret...…..

 

Thirdly, whenever I see a ministry which is named after a man I cringe.

What about the kind of attitude that John the Baptist had: Joh 3:29-30
(29)  He that hath the bride is the bridegroom: but the friend of the bridegroom, which standeth and heareth him, rejoiceth greatly because of the bridegroom's voice: this my joy therefore is fulfilled.
(30)  He must increase, but I must decrease.

 

Or Paul's attitude: 2Co 12:7
(7)  And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.
 

And Paul was glad of his infirmity, for it kept him humble.

And we see so many people today with ministries that they name after themselves...………..  Is this a godly thing to do? It would seem that it is not.

 

As to particular teachings, I have quickly perused the devotional about divorce, and I must say that he begins by presenting the most extreme examples of bad relationships. This is a common tactic of those who wish to support a practice - see the abortionists who talk about rape victims as a justification for abortion when the truth is that the number of abortions done in such cases is far less than 1% of the total. Use the extreme to justify the practice, and then apply the practice generally. This is the tactic that his devotion begins with - extreme examples that everyone agrees are abominable, which set people on the mind of supporting divorce.

He then attacks the extreme position that says a person must stay in such extreme relationships no matter what - which I for one have never heard anyone promote. This is called a "straw man argument".

So you see that in this one devotion he uses extreme examples and argues against extreme counter positions, and he does so tactically, with no real initial bible referencing. Regardless of where you stand on the actual issue, you must see that this is a deceitful tactic which is designed, not to find truth, but to sway to a predisposed position.

Also in one of the examples he states “God hates divorce,” the pastor says. “But, biblically, you are allowed to divorce her because of her adultery. I wouldn’t take the chance though. There’s no guarantee you’ll stay saved yourself. After the divorce you might fall out of God’s will for your own life and be in danger of the fires of hell. Hang in there, lest you fall too.”

This is the answer that a mythical pastor gives to a mythical husband about a mythical unfaithful wife.

Note that the Pastor says "....There's no guarantee you'll stay saved yourself..." 

This is in one of his made up examples - now I am not sure if he is a proponent of loss of salvation or not, but the example he uses here the Pastor certainly is. However, I suspect that this man is no fan of churches and Pastors in general, and so he is here painting the Pastor (mythical as he is) in the worst possible light. 

 

He also is attacking the premise that divorce is some kind of unforgivable sin, which I have never heard an IFB preacher present, so this is again a straw man that he has made for the purposes of being able to tear it down.

I would suggest that this guy is at the very least not an independent Baptist, and that is reason enough to be very wary of his teaching. He uses other versions (At least the NIV, but since he does not give any credit that I can find, each instance needs to be checked). This is a concern, because different versions say different things - as we can see by the example above.

He makes certain statements that are just plain wrong:

“Therefore, my brethren (anytime Paul says brethren he’s referring to his Jewish race), you also were made to die to the Law through the body of Christ, so that you might be joined to another, to Him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit for God…But now we have been released from the Law (just like a woman is released from her husband if he dies) having died to that by which we were bound, so that we serve in newness of the Spirit and not in oldness of the letter (the letter is the Law).” (Romans 7:4,6, my notes added)

How about these:

Rom 1:13
(13)  Now I would not have you ignorant, brethren, that oftentimes I purposed to come unto you, (but was let hitherto,) that I might have some fruit among you also, even as among other Gentiles.
Who is he talking to? ONLY to Jews in Rome?

Rom 1:6-7
(6)  Among whom are ye also the called of Jesus Christ:
(7)  To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.
Hmmmm - doesn't seem to be talking about Jews there.

 

Another one:

1Co 1:10
(10)  Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.
Who is included in brethren here?

1Co 1:1-2
(1)  Paul, called to be an apostle of Jesus Christ through the will of God, and Sosthenes our brother,
(2)  Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:
 

Another:

2Co 1:8
(8)  For we would not, brethren, have you ignorant of our trouble which came to us in Asia, that we were pressed out of measure, above strength, insomuch that we despaired even of life:
 

2Co 1:1
(1)  Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and Timothy our brother, unto the church of God which is at Corinth, with all the saints which are in all Achaia:
 

Another:

Gal 1:1-2
(1)  Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;)
(2)  And all the brethren which are with me, unto the churches of Galatia:
Who was with Him? We don't know, but it is supposed that the Letter to the Galatians was written from Rome, so it is unlikely that there were only Jewish believers with Paul. Onesimus was with Paul in Rome at one stage, and he was apparently a slave of a man with a Greek name, who had a church with people with Greek names, and Onesimus appears to be a Greek name.

And another:

Eph 6:10
(10)  Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
Considering that this was also written from Rome, and written to the church in the city of Ephesus, and that Paul uses a specific armour description pertaining to the Roman soldier, it is unlikely that this letter was written only to Jews. 

And we could go on - I have only used the FIRST instance of the word brethren in each of these epistles, and not cherry picked the best ones.

Clearly, Paul used the term Brethren to speak also of non-Jewish saints, and not just of his own countrymen, although he did also use the term brethren on one occasion that I could find to refer specifically to Jews: Rom 9:3 (3)  For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh:
 

Kind of a difference that the majority of times that Paul used the term "brethren", he was talking of saints regardless of nation, and only once that I could find (with a quick search) did he use the term "Brethren" to denote those of his own nation.

What did this teacher say? ".....(anytime Paul says brethren he’s referring to his Jewish race),......"

Are these enough reasons to be wary of this man?

And then he comes  on here and accuses Alan of lying about him............ Without any answers or evidence to back up his accusation.

 

Nutshell:

  • Wrong Bible Version.
  • No list of beliefs to give people a baseline of his doctrinal position.
  • Prideful naming of ministry.
  • deceitful method of presentation of argument.
    • Straw man arguments
    • Extreme case presentation, general application. (Abortionist method)
  • Unbiblical claims

And remember that this is from ONE of his devotions.

It will be interesting to see if he answers any of this stuff.

In any case, I won't be buying one of his books any time soon.

Edited by DaveW
bolded "brethren"

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I should add that the ONLY REASON I went to the website to investigate is because of his accusatory post towards Alan.

I generally don't post about such people, preferring to leave them alone. But when someone accuses a solid man like Alan in this way, I investigate to see who is right. I like Alan, but he is only a man and I am sure he would happily admit that he is prone to mistakes, as are we all. As such I check to see who is telling it like really is.

In my opinion, Alan is far more trustworthy than this mcmillinministries guy.

 

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Matt McMillen replied to my personal e-mail. In my personal e-mail I asked Matt McMillen six questions. The following six questions that I asked are written below in black and Matt McMillen’s reply to the six questions are written in red exactly as he wrote them. I would like to add that both my e-mail, and Matt McMillen response, were both cordial in nature. I will leave out our personal pleasantries to one another and not correct any spelling errors.

The Six Questions:

1. What exactly is your ministry? Author of five books, and my sixth book will be out this fall. Here is a link: https://www.amazon.com/Matt-McMillen/e/B01M9AWK64?ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1&qid=1563825215&sr=8-1 I also have a large social media ministry with over a half million people in total. I founded this ministry in 2015.

2. Have you ever attended, or were a member of, or ministered in an official, or unofficial, capacity, at Five Stone Community Church in Garland, TX? No sir.

3. What church are you currently a member of, or attend on a regular basis? I'm not a member of any church specifically, but I always recommend Church Without Religion, located in Lubbock, TX, to visit or to stream online at 9:45 CST. I also recommend www.netowrk220.org for other New Covenant, Christ-focused ministries.

4. Can you send me a doctrinal statement? I don't have a doctoral statement because I refuse to be put into a religious mold. But I will say that Christ is the center of all my doctrine.

5. Do you consider yourself a Conservative or Contemporary? Neither. I'm a child of god.

6. What College, or Seminary, or University, did you graduate from? None.

End of the Six Questions.

I did some further searching concerning:

1. The Church Without Religion website: churchwithoutreligion.com/home.

The Church Without Religion, in my understanding, is not a local New Testament church, is not King James, and is a contemporary church.

2. Network 220 website address: http://network220.org/

Pastor Andrew Farley, Church Without Religion, Lubbock, TX, is the President of Network 220. network220.org/about/our-board-of-directors. Basically, Network 220, as far as I can tell, is the loose denominational headquarters of churches like Church Without Religion.

In my understanding, I was accurate in my June 9, 2019 post. The only difference is the church location and educational background. In my thoughts, his church affiliation is contemporary, his devotions are contemporary and somewhat confusing as he does not want to offend folks, has no sound, biblical, doctrinal statement, and is in the religious book selling business.

Therefore, I believe I was accurate in my June 9, 2019 assessment of Matt’s devotions and that for Matt to say that, “None of the stuff in this thread is accurate about me” was inaccurate.”

 

 

Edited by Alan
changed wrong and dishonest to inaccurate

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How can you be accurate about a man who refuses to be accurate? For accuracy you have to have known dimensions but his whole mindset is about not being molded to or by anything tangible. He's "free in Christ" after all... unbounded by pesky rules regulations, religion, and labels....And you can be too! for the low low price of a few devotional books every year that all have his picture on them.

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Hey guys, thanks again for reaching out. Your email was kind to me and I really appreciate that. 

My books are always free if someone requests a free copy. Any profit on my books go back into reaching more people for Jesus. 

As for your other comments, I'm a very successful business owner and my ministry does not support me. It never has. Instead, it's a calling I feel like God wants me to express to help others come to know His grace. I've owed my own business for 20 years, here's the website to my company: https://alarmsecurityllc.com/

Here are some other links to address your questions and statements. I hope you all have a great day!

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I would suggest to the mods that these links be broken.

It takes very little perusing of these links to find false doctrine taught, and the basic process of this guy is straw man and misrepresentation.

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14 hours ago, Matt McMillen said:

I feel like God wants me to express to help others come to know His grace. I've owed my own business for 20 years

That's great and I understand your heart in wanting to be a blessing and not a burden but ministry should be done under the authority and guidance of a local church. To do otherwise undermines the very system Christ put in place. Having a buffet style doctrine and washy washy answers will end up hurting you and those you are tying to help. Try picking a solid bible church to submit to by membership and some actual doctrinal positions to stand firm on (and maybe a few books that take clear biblical/doctrinal stands, without your face on them) and then you will actually do some good for the Lord's ministry and not "your own name" ministry.

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Hey John,

Thanks for your reply. I really appreciate it. However, I never said I don't go to church. I said I'm not a member of a church. There's no instruction in any part of the New Testament for such. Further, Christ actually destroyed the need of a physical building, as well as a middleman, to be near God. It was the self-righteous legalists who refused to place their faith in Jesus who wanted to go back to the temple. The temple is no more, and the New Covenant is not about a building--but a Person. 

The word "church" in the New Testament is never referring to a building but a body of believers. You, me, and every believer, we form the church. In fact, the first church building wasn't even erected until 200 years after Christ. The church has never been about a building, but instead the Spirit of God indwelling a body of men, women, and children. Don't get me wrong, the gatherings are very important, but if those gatherings are causing a person more harm than good, then God will lead them away from that building of people. He goes with them, if they are saved.   

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I haven't looked at these second round of links...the first group was enough.

I don't mean to be harsh, but these "devotions" are full of secular reasoning which appeals to the masses. 

I could only shake my head in amazement at what was being promoted.

It's no wonder this author is gaining in popularity (I don't know if he is or not...I'm just going by the OP). 

He might want to do a study on the significance of the "thee, thou, shalt, etc." significances before putting them down.

So sad.

God puts much more reverence upon his word than this author...

(Psa 138:2 KJV) I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name.

This author promotes his own name and his "best selling" books, yet God says that his word is magnified above ALL thy name.

Why teach others about what the Bible teaches when you admit that you believe there are errors in every translation?

 

Edited by No Nicolaitans

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Mr McMillen, you clearly lack understanding of at least two things: the fact that your links will continue to be deleted here (because this site will not allow you to promote your false teaching here), and the nature of the church. And no, I am not suggesting it is a building..... do some more study......

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Matt, I have deleted the links to your website that you posted. The posting of these links, plus what is considered by the owners and administrators of this site as false teaching will not be tolerated.

You would be well served to read the rules for posting here at this link:  https://onlinebaptist.com/forums/topic/26704-online-baptist-rules/

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That's no problem you deleted all of the links in my comments. However, those links addressed all of your questions about my ministry. The same links can be found on my website and  all topics can be found my books. 

Also, if you have any questions about what doctrine I believe, over any topic, simply google that topic and "matt mcmillen ministries" in quotations. You can also search any doctrinal topic on my website in the search bar at the top right, from your desktop. 

I normally don't spend time on forums, but I felt the Holy Spirit leading me to spend some time here. If you all need anything else, just shoot me an email as I mentioned in the beginning of this thread. May God bless you greatly as you come to understand His grace, through Jesus Christ, in great ways. Take care. 

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I think it is interesting that Mac has not bothered to address the simple critique of his "divorce" devotion that I did. He has not even tried to answer a single point that I made.

And he has not addressed the reason for his self promotion over the Lord, even though at least two of us have noted it.

He has not addressed the issue of "loss of salvation" that he alludes to in his divorce devotion - does he believe that eternal life is not in fact eternal?

I am certain he thinks we are unloving, but it is not a hateful thing to warn against unbiblical teaching. Indeed, his discussion on the KJV issue has just that intention, although he uses a great deal of misinformation and innacurracy, as well as the aforementioned straw man method.

Basically, to any reader of this thread who would be inclined to investigate, I would warn you to diligently check every word of this man against the Bible, and you will find that he is greatly lacking in integrity where Biblical exposition is concerned.

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I find it quite interesting that just about every false teacher that has come our way just appears on the scene rather suddenly and begins teaching without giving thought that someone might just challenge his teaching. You would think that just one of them would actually take the time and effort to introduce themselves and speak a bit about what they believe and what their qualifications are.

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On 7/26/2019 at 7:31 AM, Matt McMillen said:

I never said I don't go to church. I said I'm not a member of a church. 

What I said was to be a MEMBER of a local church BODY. Not that you should just attend a church building service or get your name on a church membership roll somewhere. When you are a member you submit one to another. You have a local body in which has extended the right hand of fellowship with you and that you promise to be accountable to for the things you say and do and work together with to accomplish the Great commission. When you don't submit to a tangible local church body then it would be hypocritical to claim that you are submitted to the Lord's Spiritual Body.

1 Corinthians 12:12 For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.

Ephesians 5:21 submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.

Hebrews 13:17 Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.

Hebrews 13:7 Remember them which have the rule over you, who have spoken unto you the word of God: whose faith follow, considering the end of their conversation.

Edited by John Young

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On 7/27/2019 at 12:42 AM, Matt McMillen said:

However, those links addressed all of your questions about my ministry. The same links can be found on my website and  all topics can be found my books. 

Also, if you have any questions about what doctrine I believe, over any topic, simply google that topic and "matt mcmillen ministries" in quotations. You can also search any doctrinal topic on my website in the search bar at the top right, from your desktop. 

As it turns out I did go to his website to seek his position, and what I found was a number of false points and arguments, including one in his anti-kjv piece criticizing a bad word translation, which is NOT EVEN FROM THE KJV, but is included without any defining reference in such a way as to indicate an error in the KJV. I only know it is not KJV because I searched the offending phrase and found it was not in the KJV ANYWHERE. And of course he didn't give a reference address for it.

This is simply an OUTRIGHT DELIBERATE DECEIT. 

This is the kind of thing this guy apparently does in order to construct his arguments.

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3 hours ago, DaveW said:

As it turns out I did go to his website to seek his position, and what I found was a number of false points and arguments, including one in his anti-kjv piece criticizing a bad word translation, which is NOT EVEN FROM THE KJV, but is included without any defining reference in such a way as to indicate an error in the KJV. I only know it is not KJV because I searched the offending phrase and found it was not in the KJV ANYWHERE. And of course he didn't give a reference address for it.

This is simply an OUTRIGHT DELIBERATE DECEIT. 

This is the kind of thing this guy apparently does in order to construct his arguments.

Dave is entirely correct. I found out the same thing in my initial reading of several of his devotions.

Also, if you look at his devotions, and even this thread, you will also notice the following two interesting items:

1. His usage of how the Holy Spirit is specifically leading him: "but I felt the Holy Spirit leading me to spend some time here." Matt's Friday 11:42 reply and in numerous devotions. Like the Charismatic's, Matt uses the name of the Holy Spirit to try and prove his spirituality over other saints. 

2. Matt's reference to the New Covenant, usually capitalized: "and the New Covenant." This phrase is posted in his July 26th. reply and in numerous devotions.

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