Guest Tej Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 Thank you all for answering the sleep question many Seven Day Adventist believe in that. I have noticed another debate on another topic in all denominations of Christianity and that's on the pre or post trib. I've heard good arguments . Which do you think ? And please provide bible verses to support your answer. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Popular Post Alan Posted February 7, 2019 Members Popular Post Share Posted February 7, 2019 (edited) Tej, Good question. In my studies of the prophecies of the Old Testament and the New Testament, long ago, I came to the conclusion that the coming of the Lord Jesus for the saints in the church will occur before the 7-Year Tribulation starts in Revelation 6:1 Since this last December, at our church I have been teaching a verse-by-verse study of 1 & 2 Thessalonians. Below is a chart that I made for that study. The chart is a "work in progress." And, I have already told the congregation that there will be an individual chart made for the five subjects covered in the chart. So, I am sure that there will be some changes (hopefully not major), in the weeks ahead. I do hope that the above chart on 1 & 2 Thessalonians will help answer your question. If there is something not understood on the chart, or if anyone has a question, or you see a mistake, please ask or discuss. Alan Note on February 11, 2019. I have done a detailed study on, "The Day of the Lord," and the book of Isaiah, and the fulfillment of Isaiah's prophecies in the book of Revelation, for my current study at our church. Due to the complexity of the, "Day of Christ," and "The Day of the Lord," I am in the process of revising the chart on 1 Thessalonians 5:2, "Day of the Lord," & 2 Thessalonians 2:2, "The Day of Christ" to make it more clearer and more precise. Once I am finished with the chart(s) I will attach the revised chart on this study and more appropriate passages from Isaiah. Alan Edited February 12, 2019 by Alan spelling Miss Daisy, DaveW, Rebecca and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaChaser Posted February 15, 2019 Members Share Posted February 15, 2019 On 2/6/2019 at 8:52 PM, Guest Tej said: Thank you all for answering the sleep question many Seven Day Adventist believe in that. I have noticed another debate on another topic in all denominations of Christianity and that's on the pre or post trib. I've heard good arguments . Which do you think ? And please provide bible verses to support your answer. Thanks I would say that Revelation 3, talking to the Philadelphia church, promised to be kept from that Hour, and also Chapter 4, when John goes up into heaven as a prefigure of the church rapturing out are the 2 best examples for pre trib. I see Mid trib supported by the 2 witnesses resurrecting to God mid trip, and also that the wrath of God starts mid trib, and the church is said to be spare the wrath of God. Post trib fits due to the fact that the second coming is described to be the same event as what is called the rapture, as those holding to it see God protecting the Church as he did the Jews in Egypt during the plagues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members robycop3 Posted March 9, 2019 Members Share Posted March 9, 2019 The Church is not mentioned at all in the description of the plagues of the great trib in Rev. 16, so it evidently won't be here. Personally, I believe the rapture will occur shortly after the beast comes to power. As I believe he will be an extremely charismatic character, he will have a ready explanation for the disappearance of millions of people that the world will believe. Also, the removal of the Christians will clear the way for the mark of the beast to be implemented almost unopposed. I tend to believe it'll be before the beast commits the "abomination of desolation", as the Christian world would certainly strongly oppose it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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