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According to Christ's sayings; the properties of night and day are distinctly different.


John 11:9-10 . . Jesus answered, Are there not twelve hours in the day? If any man walk in the day, he stumbleth not, because he seeth the light of this world. But if a man walk in the night, he stumbleth, because there is no light in him.


The light of this world is the sun.


Gen 1:14 . . And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night


Gen 1:16 . . And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night


So then; when Christ spoke of three days and three nights per Matt 12:40, he was speaking of three distinct time frames when the sun was up, and three distinct time frames when the sun was down; which obviously rules out Friday for crucifixion day seeing as how it is impossible to produce a third night between Friday afternoon and Sunday morning.


It's not too difficult to appreciate just how serious this is relative to the outside world. Good Friday's unworkable chronology has earned Christianity too much mockery and ridicule. Well; if the outside world can be persuaded to mock Easter week's sequence of events, then they can be just as easily persuaded that Jesus' resurrection never happened. As a result they will miss the opportunity to be exonerated per Rom 4:25. A record of their sins will remain on the books, hanging over their heads like a sword of Damocles. Out ahead, at the great white throne event depicted at Rev 20:11-15, those books will be opened for review.



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There are at least two categories related to people's sin histories. There are sins on the books and there are sins not on the books.


Sins not on the books were either expunged or were never recorded to begin with.


Curiously it's possible to be forgiven of one's sins only to have them stay on the books instead of expunged-- that would be tantamount to a reprieve; defined as to delay and/or suspend the punishment of someone; such as a prisoner who is sentenced to death.


For example: former US President Gerald Ford pardoned former US President Richard Nixon back in 1974 relative to the Watergate scandal. Ford's pardon in no way exonerated Nixon, it only let him off the hook. Though the pardon protected Nixon from prosecution; his crimes didn't go away. In other words: Mr. Nixon will always and forever be on the books of world history as a crook.


Exoneration-- an adjudication of innocence, which is normally granted when there is insufficient evidence to convict --is to be much preferred over a reprieve because exoneration leaves nothing on the books; and if there is nothing on the books, then there will be nothing down at the end with which to justify condemning someone to the lake of brimstone depicted at Rev 20:10-15.


Rom 4:25 . . Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.


The koiné Greek word translated "justification" is dikaioo (dik-ah-yo'-o) which essentially means to regard as innocent; i.e. exonerated.


In other words; though Christ's crucifixion was sufficient to obtain forgiveness for people's sins; his crucifixion alone wasn't sufficient to make it possible for people to obtain an acquittal. Had he not come back from the dead, everyone's sins would have remained on the books to be used against them during the event depicted at Rev 20:11-15.


Though Christ's believing followers sin (1John 1:8-10) none of their sins go on record against them as an indictment.


2 Cor 5:19 . . God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them.


The koiné Greek word translated "imputing" is logizomai (log-id'-zom-ahee) which means to take an inventory.


In other words; once people obtain the exoneration available via Christ's resurrection, they never need to obtain additional exonerations; once was enough.


Heb 10:10-12 . .We are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once [and] for all.



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Luke 23:50-54 . . And, behold, there was a man named Joseph, a counseller; and he was a good man, and a just: (The same had not consented to the counsel and deed of them;) he was of Arimathaea, a city of the Jews: who also himself waited for the kingdom of God.


. . .This man went unto Pilate, and begged the body of Jesus. And he took it down, and wrapped it in linen, and laid it in a sepulchre that was hewn in stone, wherein never man before was laid. And that day was the preparation, and the sabbath drew on.


NOTE: For the benefit of those looking in who may not be familiar with the ancient Jews' religion: the day of preparation is set aside for the Jews to rid their homes of leaven; plus slaughter and roast lambs with fire ready to eat for that night's Passover dinner. (Exodus chapter 12)


The sabbath mentioned in Luke's passage was very special.


John 19:31 . .The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.


"high" is translated from the koiné Greek word megas (meg'-as) which essentially means big, i.e. great.


Regular sabbaths are neither high, nor, big, nor great days; they're same-o, same-o days; i.e. just routine. There's nothing all that special about a regular sabbath like there is the first day of the feast of unleavened bread because that sabbath's night is the Passover lamb dinner.


John 18:28 . .Then led they Jesus from Caiaphas unto the hall of judgment: and it was early; and they themselves went not into the judgment hall, lest they should be defiled; but that they might eat the passover.


John 19:14 . . And it was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King!


There are more sabbaths in the Bible besides the usual seventh day. For example:


Yom Kippur (Lev 23:32)

Feast of Trumpets (Lev 23:23-25)

Feast of Unleavened Bread; a,k.a. Passover. (Ex 12:16, Lev 23:5-8)


Passover sabbath is interesting. The usual sabbath always falls on the very same day of the week every time. But Passover sabbath floats; hence it can, and it does, occur on any given day of the week; sometimes even coincident with the usual sabbath; for example 2018, and sometimes consecutive with the usual sabbath; for example 2008.


Factoring the Passover sabbath into the chronology of Matt 12:40 in order to obtain a third night is actually fairly easy once you're aware of it. But be forewarned; there are a number of Good Friday's resolute defenders who refuse to allow John's high day to be other than the routine sabbath; and they've concocted some very convincing sophistry to support their view.


It's sometimes objected that whereas Yom Kippur and the Feast of Trumpets are specifically called sabbaths; the first day of the feast of unleavened bread isn't. It's set aside for an holy convocation which just simply means a sacred assembly. But it's also added that no manner of work shall be done on that day; which is exactly what a sabbath is all about (Gen 2:2-3). In reality, the objection is just semantic nit picking.


Anyway; John calls that day a sabbath, which pretty much settles it for me. But it's a sneaky sabbath that usually escapes people's notice so they end up counting only one of the sabbaths related to Christ's crucifixion and resurrection. Without that sneaky sabbath, they're pretty much stuck with the Good Friday model; which of course is unworkable.



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4 hours ago, swathdiver said:

Howdy Zuno!  Where ya from and what is your testimony?


Hello swathdiver;


My State of residence is declared under my member name over there on the left side of your screen.


My testimony is posted in the "Introduce Yourself" area. Look for New Old Guy On The Block.



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Luke 23:54-56 . . And that day was the preparation, and the sabbath drew on. And the women also, which came with him from Galilee, followed after, and beheld the sepulchre, and how his body was laid. And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment.


Mark 16:1-2 . . And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him. And very early in the morning the first day of the week, they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun.


This is precisely where a good many of Good Friday's defenders drop the ball. They're unaware, either innocently or by design, that the sabbath spoken of in Luke 23:54-56 commences the feast of unleavened bread; beginning that night with the Passover lamb dinner. That particular sabbath is one of the most sacred holy days in Judaism; I'd say probably even more sacred than Yom Kippur.


The sabbath in Mark 16:1-2 is the regular weekly sabbath. It's always followed by the first day of the week; which, in our day and age, is Sunday.


So then; Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James and Salome, observed two sabbaths in a row that year: Passover's sabbath followed by the regular weekly sabbath.


NOTE: There's quite a bit of debate going around related to the time of the women's arrival at the cemetery.


The Greek word that speaks of the women's journey is somewhat ambiguous. It can not only mean came, but also went, i.e. it can indicate travel as well as arrival and/or coming as well as going.


Seeing as how there are no less than seven verses that clearly, conclusively, and without ambiguity testify that Jesus' dead body revived on the third day rather than during the third night-- viz: his body revived when the sun was up rather than when the sun was not yet up, --then it's safe to conclude that in the women's case "went" is the appropriate translation of the Greek word  erchomai, i.e. the women left their homes during morning twilight; and by the time they met together and journeyed to the cemetery, the sun was fully up. (I cannot imagine any woman of good sense walking around a graveyard in the dark; especially when back in that day nobody as yet had access to electric lighting of any kind, not even a flashlight.)


NOTE: The original languages of the Bible contain numerous ambiguous words that translators are not always sure how best to interpret; so sometimes the onus is upon Bible students to do a little research of their own. Caveat Lector.



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