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Below is what I have found. You can do the math. Sorry about the looooong post

Globally, crude's reserves-to-production ratio has hovered between 40-55 years. The 1P estimate is an estimate of proven reserves, what is likely to be extracted from a well, 90% probability. Probable reserves are given 50% certainty (2P) and possible reserves a 10% certainty (3P).

https://tinyurl.com/yd7cfczq

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 Overall, global supply fell by 720,000 barrels per day in August, .2017

https://tinyurl.com/yctnaj3f 

our forecast horizon we will be in a 104 mb/d market and the call on OPEC crude and stock change rises from 32.2 mb/d in 2016 to 35.8 mb/d in 2022. With the group forecast to add 1.95 mb/d to production capacity in this period, this implies that available spare production capacity will fall below 2 mb/d.

https://www.iea.org/Textbase/npsum/oil2017MRSsum.pdf 

Oil is a resource… it will run out

For decades now, the topic of when our oil will run out has been the focus of analysts and industry experts. The concern is real. Oil is a resource and will eventually be depleted. Once we discover and process all sources, there’s nothing else. It’s only a question of time.

 Oil still remains the largest source of primary energy worldwide. According to the U.S. Energy Information Administration, the global supply of oil, bio-fuel and liquid hydrocarbons are still enough to meet the global demand for liquid fuels for another 25 years. The good news is that developing countries are now seriously exploring and using alternative and renewable energy. 

Here’s the latest report on Oil Consumption and Demand. 

1.    The world oil consumption per day is 91.7 million barrels as of May 2014. 

2.    The U.S. is the largest oil consumer in the world, using up 18.83 million barrels a day. 

3.    China uses 10% of the world’s oil. It is expected to overtake the U.S. as the largest oil consumer. 

4.    The global oil demand is expected to increase by 1.3 million barrels a day by late 2014. 

http://www.theworldcounts.com/stories/World-Oil-Consumption-per-Day

  North Sea is running too dry to meet target

 Wednesday July 4, 2007

 http://environment.guardian.co.uk/energy/story/0,,

2117952,00.html  

The real casus belli: peak oil

Tuesday June 26, 2007

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/story/0,,2

111529,00.html  

Science Panel Finds Fault With Estimates of Coal Supply

Published: June 21, 2007 http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/21/business/21coal.

html  

Chevron announces that they now have 11.8 years of oil left at current production levels after aquiring Unocal reserves

07/08/05  

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/11/business/worldbu

siness/11unocal.html?pagewanted=2&adxnnl=1&

adxnnlx=1123732924-48wR07Ekayb0gi0r7b8l9Q

 An Oil Enigma: Production Falls Even as Reserves Rise

Published: June 12, 2004

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/12/business/12RESE.

html?pagewanted=3&hp  

"The decline of oil and gas will affect the world population more than climate change"

http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/europe/10/02/glo

bal.warming/'>http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/europe/10/02/glo

bal.warming/  

In January 2001, the U.S.

Department of Energy estimated the world's supply of unexploited oil reserves the world supply of oil will be totally exhausted 35 years from now (June 2003).

http://members.aol.com/mpwright9/oil.html  

World oil and gas 'running out'

Thursday, October 2, 2003 Posted: 1245 GMT ( 8:45 PM HKT)  

http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/europe/10/02/glo

bal.warming/'>http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/europe/10/02/glo

bal.warming/  

The Oil Crunch

Published: May 7, 2004

The question, instead, is when the trend in oil prices will turn decisively upward. That upward turn is inevitable as a growing world economy confronts a resource in limited supply. But when will it happen? Maybe it already has.

 http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/07/opinion/07KRUG.h

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 Natural gas markets undergo turbulent transition as domestic production declines

 Tuesday, December 16, 2003

 http://www.statesman.com/business/content/auto/epa

per/editions/tuesday/business_f3edda2474a06071009b.

html

 "Texas' oil resource is pretty well picked over," http://www.statesman.com/specialreports/content/sp

ecialreports/energy/0617oil.html'>http://www.statesman.com/specialreports/content/sp

ecialreports/energy/0617oil.html

 Oman's Oil Yield Long in Decline, Shell Data Show

 Published: April 8, 2004

 http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/08/business/08OIL.h

tml?hp  

Half of Texas’s oil wells have dried up in the past 40 years and there are very few new ones.

 http://www.statesman.com/specialreports/content/sp

ecialreports/energy/0617oil.html'>http://www.statesman.com/specialreports/content/sp

ecialreports/energy/0617oil.html

 Tight Oil Supply Won't Ease Soon

 Published: May 16, 2004

 Two dollars for a gallon of gas? Get used to it. High fuel prices are here to stay, at least for the near future, because no relief is in sight for tight oil supplies.

 http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/16/business/16OIL.h

tml?pagewanted=2&hp&adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=10

84724567-pWSKI+RB9bShA5oXGRQi4w

 The end of the Fossil Fuel era is upon us so what are we going to do next-?

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15 minutes ago, tooldtocare said:

Oil is a resource… it will run out

 The end of the Fossil Fuel era is upon us so what are we going to do next-?

You are right in saying that oil is a resource, but there is evidence that it may be a renewable resource. I have my doubts about oil running out in our lifetime. Alternative energy sources are not able to replace oil or hydro. Alternative energy sources can only supplement historical sources at this time.

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Oil comes from decaying plant/animal parts that settle to the bottom of the ocean. Over time this decaying matter transforms into “oil”. In a few thousand years the oil that we consumed will be replenished from the oil being produced on the ocean’s sea bed.

All we have to do is wait a few thousand years and then walla, the oil will return.

in my view

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China Aims to Spend at Least $360 Billion on Renewable Energy by 2020

China intends to spend more than $360 billion through 2020 on renewable power sources like solar and wind, the government’s energy agency said on Thursday.

The country’s National Energy Administration laid out a plan to dominate one of the world’s fastest-growing industries, just at a time when the United States is set to take the opposite tack as Donald J. Trump, a climate-change doubter, prepares to assume the presidency.

The agency said in a statement that China would create more than 13 million jobs in the renewable energy sector by 2020, curb the growth of greenhouse gasses that contribute to global warming and reduce the amount of soot that in recent days has blanketed Beijing and other Chinese cities in a noxious cloud of smog.

China surpassed the United States a decade ago as the world’s biggest emitter of greenhouse gasses, and now discharges about twice as much. For years, its oil and coal industries prospered under powerful political patrons and the growth-above-anything mantra of the ruling Communist Party.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/05/world/asia/china-renewable-energy-investment.html

2017 China Electric Car Sales Blow World Out Of The Water — BAIC EC-Series Is A Superstar

The rise and rise of the Chinese plug-in electric vehicle (PEV) market is unstoppable, with yet another record performance in December. A total of 102,000 new passenger PEVs were registered last month, up 130% year over year. Yes, that was just December, and it pulled the year-to-date count to over 600,000 units, up 71% compared to 2016.

As consequence of this rapid growth, in December, the PEV share hit a record 3.3% market share of the entire Chinese auto market, while the entire 2017 PEV market share ended at 2.1%. That’s firmly ahead of last year’s score (1.5%) and above the USA (1.2%) and Europe (~1.9%).

The Chinese PEV market represented roughly half of the 1.2 million plug-ins sold worldwide in 2017, while Chinese car makers made 47% of all PEVs sold last year.

https://tinyurl.com/ybe5rcb7

Our future at being the world’s great leader is coming to an end. Soon we, i.e. the us will fall into the category of a third world economy if we do not wake up soooon!

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If I am not mistaken a PEV has to recharge from an electrical source and that electrical source comes from???

Long ago Global Warming alarmists switched to calling it "Climate Change" because they could not prove their alarmist nonsense.

Back in the seventies there was the same alarmist nonsense regarding a coming ice age. Funny how these types are always wrong and consequently never heard from again when their pet theory doesn't come true.

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On 4/1/2018 at 12:40 AM, Jim_Alaska said:

If I am not mistaken a PEV has to recharge from an electrical source and that electrical source comes from???

Long ago Global Warming alarmists switched to calling it "Climate Change" because they could not prove their alarmist nonsense.

Back in the seventies there was the same alarmist nonsense regarding a coming ice age. Funny how these types are always wrong and consequently never heard from again when their pet theory doesn't come true.

Oil is "finite" and that is not a pet theory; it is a fact.

On 4/1/2018 at 12:40 AM, Jim_Alaska said:

If I am not mistaken a PEV has to recharge from an electrical source and that electrical source comes from???

Long ago Global Warming alarmists switched to calling it "Climate Change" because they could not prove their alarmist nonsense.

Back in the seventies there was the same alarmist nonsense regarding a coming ice age. Funny how these types are always wrong and consequently never heard from again when their pet theory doesn't come true.

Oil is "finite" and that is not a pet theory; it is a fact.

On 4/1/2018 at 12:40 AM, Jim_Alaska said:

If I am not mistaken a PEV has to recharge from an electrical source and that electrical source comes from???

Long ago Global Warming alarmists switched to calling it "Climate Change" because they could not prove their alarmist nonsense.

Back in the seventies there was the same alarmist nonsense regarding a coming ice age. Funny how these types are always wrong and consequently never heard from again when their pet theory doesn't come true.

Oil is "finite" and that is not a pet theory; it is a fact.

On 4/1/2018 at 12:40 AM, Jim_Alaska said:

If I am not mistaken a PEV has to recharge from an electrical source and that electrical source comes from???

Long ago Global Warming alarmists switched to calling it "Climate Change" because they could not prove their alarmist nonsense.

Back in the seventies there was the same alarmist nonsense regarding a coming ice age. Funny how these types are always wrong and consequently never heard from again when their pet theory doesn't come true.

Oil is "finite" and that is not a pet theory; it is a fact.

On 4/1/2018 at 12:40 AM, Jim_Alaska said:

If I am not mistaken a PEV has to recharge from an electrical source and that electrical source comes from???

Long ago Global Warming alarmists switched to calling it "Climate Change" because they could not prove their alarmist nonsense.

Back in the seventies there was the same alarmist nonsense regarding a coming ice age. Funny how these types are always wrong and consequently never heard from again when their pet theory doesn't come true.

Oil is "finite" and that is not a pet theory; it is a fact.

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On ‎1‎/‎04‎/‎2018 at 10:16 AM, tooldtocare said:

Overall, global supply fell by 720,000 barrels per day in August, .2017

Global supply is regulated by the Arab states largely (and others), and it is for purely financial reasons - they regulate the flow to keep the prices high.

Global supply rates have nothing to do with whether or not oil is running out, and everything to do with keeping the oil price high, so looking at last years "supply reduction" proves nothing in regard to oil reserves.

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19 minutes ago, DaveW said:

Global supply is regulated by the Arab states largely (and others), and it is for purely financial reasons - they regulate the flow to keep the prices high.

Global supply rates have nothing to do with whether or not oil is running out, and everything to do with keeping the oil price high, so looking at last years "supply reduction" proves nothing in regard to oil reserves.

I am not concerned about the price of a gallon of gasoline at this point in time; nor the available supply. We can continue to use as much oil as we chose for the next 30 or so years and then the supply and demand equation flips on its head. We have the time to make the transition if, and only if we see the writing on the wall and start now in developing the next sources of energy that we will need.

This will require a global initiative that has not begun yet; and it should.

19 minutes ago, DaveW said:

Global supply is regulated by the Arab states largely (and others), and it is for purely financial reasons - they regulate the flow to keep the prices high.

Global supply rates have nothing to do with whether or not oil is running out, and everything to do with keeping the oil price high, so looking at last years "supply reduction" proves nothing in regard to oil reserves.

I am not concerned about the price of a gallon of gasoline at this point in time; nor the available supply. We can continue to use as much oil as we chose for the next 30 or so years and then the supply and demand equation flips on its head. We have the time to make the transition if, and only if we see the writing on the wall and start now in developing the next sources of energy that we will need.

This will require a global initiative that has not begun yet; and it should.

19 minutes ago, DaveW said:

Global supply is regulated by the Arab states largely (and others), and it is for purely financial reasons - they regulate the flow to keep the prices high.

Global supply rates have nothing to do with whether or not oil is running out, and everything to do with keeping the oil price high, so looking at last years "supply reduction" proves nothing in regard to oil reserves.

I am not concerned about the price of a gallon of gasoline at this point in time; nor the available supply. We can continue to use as much oil as we chose for the next 30 or so years and then the supply and demand equation flips on its head. We have the time to make the transition if, and only if we see the writing on the wall and start now in developing the next sources of energy that we will need.

This will require a global initiative that has not begun yet; and it should.

19 minutes ago, DaveW said:

Global supply is regulated by the Arab states largely (and others), and it is for purely financial reasons - they regulate the flow to keep the prices high.

Global supply rates have nothing to do with whether or not oil is running out, and everything to do with keeping the oil price high, so looking at last years "supply reduction" proves nothing in regard to oil reserves.

I am not concerned about the price of a gallon of gasoline at this point in time; nor the available supply. We can continue to use as much oil as we chose for the next 30 or so years and then the supply and demand equation flips on its head. We have the time to make the transition if, and only if we see the writing on the wall and start now in developing the next sources of energy that we will need.

This will require a global initiative that has not begun yet; and it should.

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tooldtocare,

Posting the same thing over and over again is SPAMMING. We have rules here against SPAMMING. Saying it once is quite enough. Since you are new here I will refrain from giving you a warning, but in return I ask that you please read our board rules here.

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God is in control.  During the Cold War, the Soviets were forced to drill deep, very deep, miles and miles deep for oil.  It is my belief that those organics in the oil are picked up as it travels through the earth.  I reckon it's probably made deep inside the earth.

Doomsday?  Haven't you read the bible fella?  We can do nothing to this planet to harm it; but just you wait til when the last chapter of that old black book begins...

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On 4/3/2018 at 1:07 AM, Jim_Alaska said:

tooldtocare,

Posting the same thing over and over again is SPAMMING. We have rules here against SPAMMING. Saying it once is quite enough. Since you are new here I will refrain from giving you a warning, but in return I ask that you please read our board rules here.

I did not intentionally mean to post something over and over. 

When i pressed [submit] nothing happened so I pressed the [submit] button again, and again, it still it did not submit. I then left the site, came back and saw the multiple posts.

Sorry,

please forgive me

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You are certainly forgiven tooldtocare. As a matter of fact I should have considered that situation before posting as I did. It has happened to me a few times also.

Please forgive me for posting in a manner that could be seen as overly harsh, especially given the circumstances.

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When God created the earth, he also created and provided all the means for  life  and commerce.  Soil to provide crops. Clay to provide bricks.  Chalk to supply concrete. Metals to provide tools.  Gold and precious stones to provide currency.  Wood, coal and oil to provide power.  

What makes you think God's providence will run out?

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On 4/21/2018 at 2:44 PM, Invicta said:

When God created the earth, he also created and provided all the means for  life  and commerce.  Soil to provide crops. Clay to provide bricks.  Chalk to supply concrete. Metals to provide tools.  Gold and precious stones to provide currency.  Wood, coal and oil to provide power.  

What makes you think God's providence will run out?

Personally, I don’t see it that way. In my view He created it all, including ourselves, set out some guidelines and then set back to see what we do next. The greatest thing He gave us is the ability to choose. And that choice is for us to make.

I can only hope we make the right choices

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49 minutes ago, tooldtocare said:

Personally, I don’t see it that way. In my view He created it all, including ourselves, set out some guidelines and then set back to see what we do next. The greatest thing He gave us is the ability to choose. And that choice is for us to make.

I can only hope we make the right choices

And of course you have Scripture to back up your assertions, right?

I find depending on God for our needs in Scripture, not ourselves.

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51 minutes ago, Jim_Alaska said:

And of course you have Scripture to back up your assertions, right?

I find depending on God for our needs in Scripture, not ourselves.

WHY THEY WERE CHOSEN

(Deu 7:6 KJV) For thou art a holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.

(Deu 7:7 KJV) The LORD did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people; for ye were the fewest of all people:

(Deu 7:8 KJV) But because the LORD loved you, and because he would keep the oath which he had sworn unto your fathers, hath the LORD brought you out with a mighty hand, and redeemed you out of the house of bondmen, from the hand of Pharaoh King of Egypt.

(Deu 7:12 KJV) Wherefore it shall come to pass, if ye hearken to these judgments, and keep, and do them, that the LORD thy God shall keep unto thee the covenant and the mercy which he swore unto thy fathers:

(Deu 7:13 KJV) And he will love thee, and bless thee, and multiply thee: he will also bless the fruit of thy womb, and the fruit of thy land, thy corn, and thy wine, and thine oil, the increase of thy kin, and the flocks of thy sheep, in the land which he sware unto thy fathers to give thee.

(Lev 19:34 KJV) But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God

They were chosen to show us the way, to show us how to treat the stranger, how to be compassionate and loving to your neighbor and by doing so peace would envelope the world.

(Mal 3:5 KJV)  And I will come near to you to judgment; and I will be a swift witness against the sorcerers, and against the adulterers, and against false swearers, and against those that oppress the hireling in his wages, the widow, and the fatherless, and that turn aside the stranger from his right, and fear not me, saith the LORD of hosts.

(Deu 1:16 KJVAnd I charged your judges at that time, saying, Hear the causes between your brethren, and judge righteously between every man and his brother, and the stranger that is with him.

(Deu 24:19 KJV)  When thou cuttest down thine harvest in thy field, and hast forgot a sheaf in the field, thou shalt not go again to fetch it: it shall be for the stranger, for the fatherless, and for the widow: that the LORD thy God may bless thee in all the work of thine hands.

(Deu 24:20 KJV)  When thou beatest thine olive tree, thou shalt not go over the boughs again: it shall be for the stranger, for the fatherless, and for the widow.

(Deu 24:21 KJV)  When thou gatherest the grapes of thy vineyard, thou shalt not glean it afterward: it shall be for the stranger, for the fatherless, and for the widow

(Ezek 22:7 KJV)  In thee have they set light by father and mother: in the midst of thee have they dealt by oppression with the stranger: in thee have they vexed the fatherless and the widow.

(Exo 22:21 KJV)  Thou shalt neither vex a stranger, nor oppress him: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.

(Exo 23:9 KJV)  Also thou shalt not oppress a stranger: for ye know the heart of a stranger, seeing ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.

 (Lev 19:34 KJVBut the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.

(Lev 25:35 KJV)  And if thy brother be waxen poor, and fallen in decay with thee; then thou shalt relieve him: yea, though he be a stranger, or a sojourner; that he may live with thee.

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(Jer 14:8 KJVO the hope of Israel, the saviour thereof in time of trouble, why shouldest thou be as a stranger in the land, and as a wayfaring man that turneth aside to tarry for a night?

(Ezek 36:17 KJV)  Son of man, when the house of Israel dwelt in their own land, they defiled it by their ..own way and by their doings: their way was before me as the uncleanness of a removed woman.

(Ezek 36:18 KJV) Wherefore I poured my fury upon them for the blood that they had shed upon the land, and for their idols wherewith they had polluted it.

(Ezek 36:22 KJV) Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.

(Ezek 36:24 KJV) For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.

(Ezek 36:31 KJV) Then shall ye remember your own evil ways, and your doings that were not good, and shall loathe yourselves in your own sight for your iniquities and for your abominations.

(Ezek 36:32 KJV) Not for your sakes do I this, saith the Lord GOD, be it known unto you: be ashamed and confounded for your own ways, O house of Israel.

Ezekiel 21:32 (ASV) Thou shalt be for fuel to the fire; thy blood shall be in the midst of the land; thou shalt be no more remembered: for I, Jehovah, have spoken it.

..According to a 2002 study by the Jewish Agency, "the number of Jews in the world is declining at an average of 50,000 per year."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_population

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4 hours ago, tooldtocare said:

 WHY THEY WERE CHOSEN

(Deu 7:6 KJV) For thou art a holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.

Same reason that Christians are chosen, to glorify God.  Both often failed.

 

But is that anything to do with oil running out?

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6 hours ago, tooldtocare said:

WHY THEY WERE CHOSEN

(Deu 7:6 KJV) For thou art a holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.

(Deu 7:7 KJV) The LORD did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people; for ye were the fewest of all people:

(Deu 7:8 KJV) But because the LORD loved you, and because he would keep the oath which he had sworn unto your fathers, hath the LORD brought you out with a mighty hand, and redeemed you out of the house of bondmen, from the hand of Pharaoh King of Egypt.

(Deu 7:12 KJV) Wherefore it shall come to pass, if ye hearken to these judgments, and keep, and do them, that the LORD thy God shall keep unto thee the covenant and the mercy which he swore unto thy fathers:

(Deu 7:13 KJV) And he will love thee, and bless thee, and multiply thee: he will also bless the fruit of thy womb, and the fruit of thy land, thy corn, and thy wine, and thine oil, the increase of thy kin, and the flocks of thy sheep, in the land which he sware unto thy fathers to give thee.

(Lev 19:34 KJV) But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God

They were chosen to show us the way, to show us how to treat the stranger, how to be compassionate and loving to your neighbor and by doing so peace would envelope the world.

(Mal 3:5 KJV)  And I will come near to you to judgment; and I will be a swift witness against the sorcerers, and against the adulterers, and against false swearers, and against those that oppress the hireling in his wages, the widow, and the fatherless, and that turn aside the stranger from his right, and fear not me, saith the LORD of hosts.

(Deu 1:16 KJVAnd I charged your judges at that time, saying, Hear the causes between your brethren, and judge righteously between every man and his brother, and the stranger that is with him.

(Deu 24:19 KJV)  When thou cuttest down thine harvest in thy field, and hast forgot a sheaf in the field, thou shalt not go again to fetch it: it shall be for the stranger, for the fatherless, and for the widow: that the LORD thy God may bless thee in all the work of thine hands.

(Deu 24:20 KJV)  When thou beatest thine olive tree, thou shalt not go over the boughs again: it shall be for the stranger, for the fatherless, and for the widow.

(Deu 24:21 KJV)  When thou gatherest the grapes of thy vineyard, thou shalt not glean it afterward: it shall be for the stranger, for the fatherless, and for the widow

(Ezek 22:7 KJV)  In thee have they set light by father and mother: in the midst of thee have they dealt by oppression with the stranger: in thee have they vexed the fatherless and the widow.

(Exo 22:21 KJV)  Thou shalt neither vex a stranger, nor oppress him: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.

(Exo 23:9 KJV)  Also thou shalt not oppress a stranger: for ye know the heart of a stranger, seeing ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.

 (Lev 19:34 KJVBut the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.

(Lev 25:35 KJV)  And if thy brother be waxen poor, and fallen in decay with thee; then thou shalt relieve him: yea, though he be a stranger, or a sojourner; that he may live with thee.

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(Jer 14:8 KJVO the hope of Israel, the saviour thereof in time of trouble, why shouldest thou be as a stranger in the land, and as a wayfaring man that turneth aside to tarry for a night?

(Ezek 36:17 KJV)  Son of man, when the house of Israel dwelt in their own land, they defiled it by their ..own way and by their doings: their way was before me as the uncleanness of a removed woman.

(Ezek 36:18 KJV) Wherefore I poured my fury upon them for the blood that they had shed upon the land, and for their idols wherewith they had polluted it.

(Ezek 36:22 KJV) Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.

(Ezek 36:24 KJV) For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.

(Ezek 36:31 KJV) Then shall ye remember your own evil ways, and your doings that were not good, and shall loathe yourselves in your own sight for your iniquities and for your abominations.

(Ezek 36:32 KJV) Not for your sakes do I this, saith the Lord GOD, be it known unto you: be ashamed and confounded for your own ways, O house of Israel.

Ezekiel 21:32 (ASV) Thou shalt be for fuel to the fire; thy blood shall be in the midst of the land; thou shalt be no more remembered: for I, Jehovah, have spoken it.

..According to a 2002 study by the Jewish Agency, "the number of Jews in the world is declining at an average of 50,000 per year."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_population

Sir,

Ezekiel 21:32 is referring to the Ammonites...not the Israelites.

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Why is this now about the Jews and no longer about oil?

I hope the Lord returns within the next 30 years - only needs to be enough oil for the Lord's timing.

And if the Lord's timing is beyond the 30 years I believe my God can do anything -if we need it, He will supply it.

Proverbs 3

5  Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. 6  In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.

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On 4/2/2018 at 10:11 PM, tooldtocare said:

Oil is "finite" and that is not a pet theory; it is a fact.

In order for one to say that oil is finite and a fact, folks would presume that someone would have seen it all.  Have you?  How can you possibly say something is running out when don't know where it all is?  This is like those who say that God doesn't exist.  In order to hold that view in a secular sense, they would have to know EVERYTHING and nobody knows even 1/2 of EVERYTHING.  Because God can exist in the part that they acknowledge not knowing about.

As the industrial age took off, wood as fuel was becoming more expensive as trees were being over harvested.  Then man began using coal and oil.  We have nuclear energy, which is a favorite of mine, and should coal and oil become scarce, God will provide something else until Christ returns.  God is in control, not man.

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On 4/29/2018 at 5:59 PM, Invicta said:

Same reason that Christians are chosen, to glorify God.  Both often failed.

 

But is that anything to do with oil running out?

No, not a darn thing. I just went into a random rant.

Please forgive me and btw ignore me

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On 4/29/2018 at 7:10 PM, No Nicolaitans said:

Sir,

Ezekiel 21:32 is referring to the Ammonites...not the Israelites.

I agree this is off topic but having said that I have strayed and will get back on topic after I answer this post:

25 “ ‘You profane and wicked prince of Israel, whose day has come, whose time of punishment has reached its climax, 
26 this is what the Sovereign LORD says: Take off the turban, remove the crown. It will not be as it was: The lowly will be exalted and the exalted will be brought low.
27 A ruin! A ruin! I will make it a ruin! The crown will not be restored until he to whom it rightfully belongs shall come; to him I will give it.’
28 “And you, son of man, prophesy and say, ‘This is what the Sovereign LORD says about the Ammonites and their insults: “ ‘A sword, a sword, drawn for the slaughter, polished to consume and to flash like lightning! 
29 Despite false visions concerning you and lying divinations about you, it will be laid on the necks of the wicked who are to be slain, whose day has come, whose time of punishment has reached its climax. 
30 “ ‘Let the sword return to its sheath. In the place where you were created, in the land of your ancestry, I will judge you
31 I will pour out my wrath on you and breathe out my fiery anger against you; I will deliver you into the hands of brutal men, men skilled in destruction. 
32 You will be fuel for the fire, your blood will be shed in your land, you will be remembered no more; for I the LORD have spoken.’ ”
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The good news------------

A hybrid electric vehicle (HEV) is a type of hybrid vehicle that combines a conventional internal combustion engine (ICE) system with an electric propulsion system (hybrid vehicle drivetrain). The presence of the electric powertrain is intended to achieve either better fuel economy than a conventional vehicle or better performance. There is a variety of HEV types, and the degree to which each functions as an electric vehicle (EV) also varies. The most common form of HEV is the hybrid electric car, although hybrid electric trucks (pickups and tractors) and buses also exist.

These cars get 44+/- miles to the gallon

On 5/1/2018 at 3:41 PM, Invicta said:

Not nice language.

 

 

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On 4/29/2018 at 1:05 PM, tooldtocare said:

WHY THEY WERE CHOSEN

(Deu 7:6 KJV) For thou art a holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.

(Deu 7:7 KJV) The LORD did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people; for ye were the fewest of all people:

(Deu 7:8 KJV) But because the LORD loved you, and because he would keep the oath which he had sworn unto your fathers, hath the LORD brought you out with a mighty hand, and redeemed you out of the house of bondmen, from the hand of Pharaoh King of Egypt.

(Deu 7:12 KJV) Wherefore it shall come to pass, if ye hearken to these judgments, and keep, and do them, that the LORD thy God shall keep unto thee the covenant and the mercy which he swore unto thy fathers:

(Deu 7:13 KJV) And he will love thee, and bless thee, and multiply thee: he will also bless the fruit of thy womb, and the fruit of thy land, thy corn, and thy wine, and thine oil, the increase of thy kin, and the flocks of thy sheep, in the land which he sware unto thy fathers to give thee.

(Lev 19:34 KJV) But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God

They were chosen to show us the way, to show us how to treat the stranger, how to be compassionate and loving to your neighbor and by doing so peace would envelope the world.

(Mal 3:5 KJV)  And I will come near to you to judgment; and I will be a swift witness against the sorcerers, and against the adulterers, and against false swearers, and against those that oppress the hireling in his wages, the widow, and the fatherless, and that turn aside the stranger from his right, and fear not me, saith the LORD of hosts.

(Deu 1:16 KJVAnd I charged your judges at that time, saying, Hear the causes between your brethren, and judge righteously between every man and his brother, and the stranger that is with him.

(Deu 24:19 KJV)  When thou cuttest down thine harvest in thy field, and hast forgot a sheaf in the field, thou shalt not go again to fetch it: it shall be for the stranger, for the fatherless, and for the widow: that the LORD thy God may bless thee in all the work of thine hands.

(Deu 24:20 KJV)  When thou beatest thine olive tree, thou shalt not go over the boughs again: it shall be for the stranger, for the fatherless, and for the widow.

(Deu 24:21 KJV)  When thou gatherest the grapes of thy vineyard, thou shalt not glean it afterward: it shall be for the stranger, for the fatherless, and for the widow

(Ezek 22:7 KJV)  In thee have they set light by father and mother: in the midst of thee have they dealt by oppression with the stranger: in thee have they vexed the fatherless and the widow.

(Exo 22:21 KJV)  Thou shalt neither vex a stranger, nor oppress him: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.

(Exo 23:9 KJV)  Also thou shalt not oppress a stranger: for ye know the heart of a stranger, seeing ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.

 (Lev 19:34 KJVBut the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.

(Lev 25:35 KJV)  And if thy brother be waxen poor, and fallen in decay with thee; then thou shalt relieve him: yea, though he be a stranger, or a sojourner; that he may live with thee.

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(Jer 14:8 KJVO the hope of Israel, the saviour thereof in time of trouble, why shouldest thou be as a stranger in the land, and as a wayfaring man that turneth aside to tarry for a night?

(Ezek 36:17 KJV)  Son of man, when the house of Israel dwelt in their own land, they defiled it by their ..own way and by their doings: their way was before me as the uncleanness of a removed woman.

(Ezek 36:18 KJV) Wherefore I poured my fury upon them for the blood that they had shed upon the land, and for their idols wherewith they had polluted it.

(Ezek 36:22 KJV) Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.

(Ezek 36:24 KJV) For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.

(Ezek 36:31 KJV) Then shall ye remember your own evil ways, and your doings that were not good, and shall loathe yourselves in your own sight for your iniquities and for your abominations.

(Ezek 36:32 KJV) Not for your sakes do I this, saith the Lord GOD, be it known unto you: be ashamed and confounded for your own ways, O house of Israel.

Ezekiel 21:32 (ASV) Thou shalt be for fuel to the fire; thy blood shall be in the midst of the land; thou shalt be no more remembered: for I, Jehovah, have spoken it.

..According to a 2002 study by the Jewish Agency, "the number of Jews in the world is declining at an average of 50,000 per year."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_population

 

47 minutes ago, tooldtocare said:

I agree this is off topic but having said that I have strayed and will get back on topic after I answer this post:

25 “ ‘You profane and wicked prince of Israel, whose day has come, whose time of punishment has reached its climax, 
26 this is what the Sovereign LORD says: Take off the turban, remove the crown. It will not be as it was: The lowly will be exalted and the exalted will be brought low.
27 A ruin! A ruin! I will make it a ruin! The crown will not be restored until he to whom it rightfully belongs shall come; to him I will give it.’
28 “And you, son of man, prophesy and say, ‘This is what the Sovereign LORD says about the Ammonites and their insults: “ ‘A sword, a sword, drawn for the slaughter, polished to consume and to flash like lightning! 
29 Despite false visions concerning you and lying divinations about you, it will be laid on the necks of the wicked who are to be slain, whose day has come, whose time of punishment has reached its climax. 
30 “ ‘Let the sword return to its sheath. In the place where you were created, in the land of your ancestry, I will judge you
31 I will pour out my wrath on you and breathe out my fiery anger against you; I will deliver you into the hands of brutal men, men skilled in destruction. 
32 You will be fuel for the fire, your blood will be shed in your land, you will be remembered no more; for I the LORD have spoken.’ ”

When you used the KJV you used the appropriate abbreviation.

When you quoted from an non-KJV you did not use an appropriate abbreviation.

Is there a reason why they difference?

What is the name of the version that you quoted?

Either way, the KJV is the only English translation of the scriptures that is to used in the discussions on OnLineBaptist.

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3 minutes ago, Alan said:

 

When you used the KJV you used the appropriate abbreviation.

When you quoted from an non-KJV you did not use an appropriate abbreviation.

Is there a reason why they difference?

What is the name of the version that you quoted?

Either way, the KJV is the only English translation of the scriptures that is to used in the discussions on OnLineBaptist.

I googled the verse and cut and pasted it here. Believe it or not, that is your choice to make.

Let's get back to the topic, OK

9 minutes ago, Alan said:

 

When you used the KJV you used the appropriate abbreviation.

When you quoted from an non-KJV you did not use an appropriate abbreviation.

Is there a reason why they difference?

What is the name of the version that you quoted?

Either way, the KJV is the only English translation of the scriptures that is to used in the discussions on OnLineBaptist.

Before getting back to the topic, please post “your” version of

(Ezek 36-17 to 36-32)

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The good news------------

A hybrid electric vehicle (HEV) is a type of hybrid vehicle that combines a conventional internal combustion engine (ICE) system with an electric propulsion system (hybrid vehicle drivetrain). The presence of the electric powertrain is intended to achieve either better fuel economy than a conventional vehicle or better performance. There is a variety of HEV types, and the degree to which each functions as an electric vehicle (EV) also varies. The most common form of HEV is the hybrid electric car, although hybrid electric trucks (pickups and tractors) and buses also exist.

These cars get 44+/- miles to the gallon

The battery sits under the car covering the entire area below the seats. The engine chargers the battery when needed. In the future you will be able to charge the battery in your garage. 

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1 hour ago, tooldtocare said:

The good news------------

A hybrid electric vehicle (HEV) is a type of hybrid vehicle that combines a conventional internal combustion engine (ICE) system with an electric propulsion system (hybrid vehicle drivetrain). The presence of the electric powertrain is intended to achieve either better fuel economy than a conventional vehicle or better performance. There is a variety of HEV types, and the degree to which each functions as an electric vehicle (EV) also varies. The most common form of HEV is the hybrid electric car, although hybrid electric trucks (pickups and tractors) and buses also exist.

These cars get 44+/- miles to the gallon

 

Some petrol and diesel cars get more than that, although you could consider this

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I used to use about 2.5 ltrs getting 42km  home from work - but that was water and it was free from the tap at work and free from the tap half way along the bike path. A little less in winter.

Slightly better on the way to work - easier riding in the cool of the morning.

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