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On November 10, 2017 at 3:55 PM, Alan said:

Hmmm.

"And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my Son, in whom I am well pleased." Matthew 3:16 & 17

Larkin stated, "The "SON" was present in Jesus. And the "HOLY SPIRIT" was present in the form of a "DOVE." This quote is found on page 5.

Jim,

Very happy that you made this comment about the Holy Spirit descending like a dove. I do not feel it is nit-picking.

I had thought of what you are saying, but I am not mentioning every detail that Larkin states as I do not know what subjects are of interest to everybody and what subjects to comment on and what subjects not to comment on.

The scriptures does state the the Holy Spirit, "... descending like a dove..." and then, "... lighting upon him..." The scriptures does not say, " in the form of a dove " as you brought out. Some have thought though that since the scriptures say, "and lighting upon him" indicates not only the descending manner but also a form of a dove.

Either way, I appreciate your participation and I appreciate your observation, and comments, concerning the Holy Spirit.

Alan

 

P.S.

I have not noticed this subject previously being discussed on OnLine Baptist.

So, as Larkin did make this a point in his book, and if there is anybody else, or if Jim wants to continue this discussion on Matthew 3:16-17 and the Holy Spirit descending like a dove, please do so.

Alan

As I was going through this thread page by page, I came across this post regarding the Trinity. I would say that Matthew 3:16,17 is one of the strongest verses in scripture proving a Triune Godhead as Jim pointed out. The Triune God (cf. 3:22; 11:7) is mentioned in the first book of the Bible.   

And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. (Genesis 1:26) 

There have been controversy over whether or not the word "us" used in the above verse refers to the Trinity. Some will say that it is an example of a "majestic plural", and that the ancient Hebrews also used the plural of majesty in ancient times. However, this did not exist at the time of Moses (who authored Genesis), so it cannot refer to a royal majestic. Furthermore, outside of scripture, the plural of majesty was first used in the 18th century when Anglo-Saxon kings and queens would refer to themselves as "we" or "our"; and it's another reason why it cannot refer to a plural of majesty. Some have also suggested that "us" is referring to God and His angels; however, angels cannot CREATE MAN -- only God can and did... therefore it cannot refer to angels. This is pretty much an irrefutable argument regarding the Triunity of God. I apologize if I derailed your thread, Alan. Eternal Security and the Deity of Christ are some of my favorite topics I'd like to discuss with like-minded Christians such as yourself.

God Bless!    

 

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Chapter 19

The Judgments

Part 6

This lesson will be an overview on Larkin's Judgment NO. 5. The chart if found on page 146, called, “The Judgments,” in Larkin's book, “The Spirit World.” The chart for this lesson is found in the right side of the chart, called, “Judgment No. 5 The Wicked Dead.”I have already uploaded the chart in this overview. The chart is located on page 3 of this overview and the date uploaded was January 13, 2018.

Here is Revelation 10:11-15, “And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which are written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.”

Larkin explains that this judgment is future, it will take place at the renovation of the earth by fire (2 Peter 3:7), the judgment will be before the Great White Throne, the basis of the judgment will be according to the works of the individuals judged and the result is that, except those who names are in the book of life, are cast into the lake of fire.

  • 2 Peter 3:7, “But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.”

    Note by Alan Concerning A-millennialism, and / or Preterism, and the Judgment

Revelation 20:11b states, “… from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.” The place of this judgment is not in heaven and it is not on the earth. William Hendriksen makes a great error in his interpretation of the Great White Throne of Judgment and the usage of the words of the Lord Jesus in Matthew 19:28 the Apostle Peter in Acts 3:21, when he states the following, “... a regeneration, Matt. 19:28; a restoration of all things, Acts 3:21.”i

We will look briefly at Matthew 19:28 and Acts 3:21 and discover that they do not apply to the Great White Throne of Judgment in Revelation 20:11-15 and that Hendriksen erroneously used the scriptures.

1. Matthew 19:28, “And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, that ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.”In the regeneration of the Lord Jesus when He sits on the throne of His glory it is obvious that the Lord will reign on the earth and that the 12 apostles are judging on their individual thrones on the earth. In Revelation 20:11-15 there is no earth and no 12 tribes of Israel.

2. The “regeneration” spoken of by the Lord Jesus in Matthew 19:28 is, “ … the times of restoration of all things ...” spoken by the prophet Isaiah (Isaiah 1:25-27), the disciples in Acts 1:6, and the Apostle Peter in Acts 3:21. The “regeneration” is the restoration of the nation of Israel at the beginning of the 1000 year reign of Christ as revealed in Revelation 20:4-6

Acts 3:19-21, “Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord; And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.” The apostle Peter is very clear, "... all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.” "All," 100 percent, every one, of the prophecies of the prophets concerning the nation of Israel, not the spiritual nation of Israel, must be fulfilled.

When the apostle Peter stated, “… and he shall send Jesus Christ ...” is a clear reference to the coming of Christ in Revelation 19:11-21 in order to start the restoration, or regeneration, or refreshing, of the nation of Israel, in Revelation 20:4-6 When the apostle stated, Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things ...” The apostle Peter was clearly referencing Isaiah 1:25-27 and Acts 1:6

Furthermore, Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things ...” is clearly fulfilled in Revelation 19: 11 when the “until” is fulfilled. Revelation 19:11 “And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.” Revelation 19:11

“… and he shall send Jesus Christ ...” was not fulfilled in Revelation 20:11-15. “… and he shall send Jesus Christ ...” was fulfilled in Revelation 19:11.

Isaiah 1:25-27, “And I will turn my hand upon thee, and purely purge away thy dross, and take away all thy tin: And I will restore thy judges as at the first, and thy counsellors as at the beginning: afterward thou shalt be called, The city of righteousness, the faithful city. Zion shall be redeemed with judgment, and her converts with righteousness.”

The disciples in Acts 1:6 were clearly referring to Isaiah 1:25-27. “When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the nation of Israel?” There is no fulfillment of Isaiah 1:25-27 (and many other passages by the prophets who prophesied of the restoration of the nation of Israel), in Revelation 20:11-15.

Therefore, Hendriksen was in error in stating that Revelation 20:11-15 is, “... a regeneration, Matt. 19:28; a restoration of all things, Acts 3:21.” The a-millennial, and or, preterist, teaching that Matthew 19:28 and Acts 3:21 are fulfilled in Revelation 20:11-15 is erroneous.

Larkin states, “All the Righteous dead will arise at the First Resurrection. If any Righteous die between the first Resurrection and the Resurrection of the “wicked” or Second Resurrection, they will rise with the wicked dead at that Resurrection. The words - “Whosoever was not found written in the Book of Life” (vs. 15), imply that there will be “some,” probably very few, Righteous at the Second Resurrection.”ii

Note by Alan Concerning the Book of Life

During the 1000 Year Reign of Christ, due to the longevity of life, lack of diseases, no war, and many other blessings of the Reign of Christ, the population of the earth will be phenomenal. And, the individuals who are saved during the 1000 Year Reign of Christ will be tremendous. It is my belief, that all of those righteous individuals will be judged for their eternal rewards at this time also. Therefore, the Book of Life is opened also for their sakes.

Larkin further states, “The Wicked or Ungodly will not be judged to see whether they are entitled to Eternal Life, but to ascertain the “degree” of their punishment.” iii

Larkin also notes that the “Fallen angels,” will be judged at this judgment.

  • Jude 6, “And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.”

In conclusion, Larkin scripturally proves that the “General Resurrection,” and “General Judgment,” as taught by the A-millennialist, and or, preterist, is in error. Larkin scripturally proves that the Judgment Seat of Christ, the Judgment of the Sheep and the Goats, the Jews under the Anti-Christ, and the Great White Throne of Judgment are all separate judgments.

i Hendriksen, William, More than Conquerors, (Grand Rapids, MI: Baker Book House, 1939, 1967), Page 235

ii Larkin, Clarence The Spirit World, (Glenside, PA: Rev. Clarence Larkin Estate), 1921, page 157

iii Larkin, Clarence The Spirit World, (Glenside, PA: Rev. Clarence Larkin Estate), 1921, page 158

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Hi Alan,

I had a debate with several people on a Christian forum years ago, and nearly everyone on that thread was against me. To sum it up. . .they believed that we are justified by faith AND works by taking James 2:24 out of its context. It is apparent that James is speaking of "saving faith" -- that is, a faith that is shown to be genuine by its works. If works can "save", then it would demonstrate the possibility that there is a chance that one can be saved at the Great White Throne judgment, because they are judged according to their works. This is an evil "interpretation" and you have correctly ferreted out why:  if works save, then Jesus died for nothing; but works do not save, and no good work could ever wipe out any sin; so without the cross, no one can be saved, no matter how good WE think our works are. God is the One who will decide whether or not anything anyone has done is truly "good", and anything not done in the power of the Holy Spirit cannot be divinely good by definition. Since unbelievers do not have the Holy Spirit, all of their "good works" are detestable to God. Responding to God and doing things His way is what constitutes true "good works", namely, believing in Christ, growing and progressing spiritually, and helping others do likewise:       

Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on Him whom He hath sent. (John 6:29)     

The "books" by which unbelievers are judged at the last judgment contain all of their "deeds" (erga), that is, everything they have thought, said and done in this life; through these it will be demonstrated that they never had any intention of responding to God and His truth through humbling themselves by believing in Christ, and as a result He is absolutely just in everything He has done -- so that they have no excuse and no defense for their condemnation. Since the universe will be dissolved, The Great White Throne judgment would have to take place not on Earth nor in the atmospheric heaven as you and Larkin have already rightly pointed out (cf. Matt. 25:31-46). See also (cf. Rev. 21:1; Is. 51:6; Matt. 24:35; 2 Pet. 3:10-12). Satan will gather an army after the 1,000 year reign of the Lord, the number of whom is as the sand of the sea (Rev. 20:8). This vast sea of people who follow Satan in rebellion towards God Almighty will most likely be born during the 1,000 year reign of Christ on earth as you rightly pointed out, due to their longevity. It is always a blessing to read Larkin's commentaries and your observations and notes. Thank you, Alan.

God Bless! 

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9 hours ago, (Omega) said:

It is always a blessing to read Larkin's commentaries and your observations and notes. Thank you, Alan.

Omega, and all those who considered this overview a blessing, or a help, or as a teaching tool.

Thank you. "Pleasant words are as an honeycomb, sweet to the soul, and health to the bones." Proverbs 16:24

Alan

Overall Overview

It was my intention at the beginning of my "Overview" of Larkin's, "The Spirit World," to be a blessing to the folks who read it and to help us more fully understand the many facets of the wonders of heaven, the character of God, the work  of God, the work of the Lord Jesus, the ministry of the angels, the afterlife in heaven, and the Judgments to come as recorded in the scriptures.

As I mentioned at the beginning (and even listed), there are a few beliefs of Larkin that I feel are incorrect. But, the vast majority of the teachings of Larkin, coupled with his charts, can be a great blessing and help to every saint. Larkin clearly presented the correct scriptural teachings on: the Trinity,  the free will of man, heaven and hell, the Holy Spirit, Satan and his followers, the angels of God and their work and responsibilities, the resurrection, future rewards, and the Judgments to come.

Throughout the book, Larkin correctly refuted the false teachings of: Spiritism, the Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons, Calvinism, Annihilationism, the "Second Chance" doctrine, Purgatory, Soul Sleep, the General Resurrection and General Judgment beliefs, the a-millennial and the preterist beliefs.

In my thoughts, throughout the book, Larkin explained the various aspects of the Spirit World in a scholarly and  Christ-like spirit. His love for the truth of the scriptures, and for the souls of men, is exemplary. Concerning the men of God, and the gifts that God gave those men, to help the church, the apostle Paul stated, "And he gave some, apostles; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers." Ephesians 4:11. As with all men, Larkin had his few faults, but, I am of the persuasion that he was one of those, "... pastors and teachers..."  "For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ." Ephesians 4:12

I personally recommend all of the brethren to obtain a copy of the book, "The Spirit World," by Clarence Larkin. 

May the Lord bless all of you.

Alan

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On 1/20/2018 at 6:56 AM, (Omega) said:

As I was going through this thread page by page, I came across this post regarding the Trinity. I would say that Matthew 3:16,17 is one of the strongest verses in scripture proving a Triune Godhead as Jim pointed out. The Triune God (cf. 3:22; 11:7) is mentioned in the first book of the Bible.   

And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. (Genesis 1:26) 

There have been controversy over whether or not the word "us" used in the above verse refers to the Trinity. Some will say that it is an example of a "majestic plural", and that the ancient Hebrews also used the plural of majesty in ancient times. However, this did not exist at the time of Moses (who authored Genesis), so it cannot refer to a royal majestic. Furthermore, outside of scripture, the plural of majesty was first used in the 18th century when Anglo-Saxon kings and queens would refer to themselves as "we" or "our"; and it's another reason why it cannot refer to a plural of majesty. Some have also suggested that "us" is referring to God and His angels; however, angels cannot CREATE MAN -- only God can and did... therefore it cannot refer to angels. This is pretty much an irrefutable argument regarding the Triunity of God. I apologize if I derailed your thread, Alan. Eternal Security and the Deity of Christ are some of my favorite topics I'd like to discuss with like-minded Christians such as yourself.

God Bless!    

 

Omega,

You did not derail this thread.

The second chapter of Larkin's, "The Spirit World," was on, "The Tri-Unity [ or Trinity ] of God."

At the beginning of this overview, I did not comment much on the first three chapters. And, at the time, no discussion was initiated by anyone reading this overview.

If you, or anybody else, would like to go back and discuss further the first three chapters; Chapter One is on the nature of the angels (Michael, Gabriel and Satan); Chapter 2 is on the Trinity; and Chapter 3 is a full chapter on Satan.

Alan

 

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It is an impossibility for someone to be a Christian and continually deny and reject the Deity of Christ. The bible states that God pledges to preserve a believer's Salvation by permanently indwelling them with the Holy Spirit.

In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory. (Ephesians 1:13-14)

Jesus said: 

Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. (John 16:13-14)

If someone claims to be a Christian and denies the Deity of Christ is doing just the opposite of what Jesus said the Holy Spirit would do. . . i.e., to GLORIFY and EXALT Jesus. So lowering Him to the status of a created being is clear indication that this professing "Christian" does not have the Holy Spirit, and therefore is not saved. The Word of God states that this individual who rejects the Deity of Christ has an Antichrist spirit instead of the Spirit of God.

Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. (1 John 2:22)

But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. (Romans 8:9)

I'm working on refining my posts so they can be clearer to understand. I hope any of this makes sense.

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On 1/19/2018 at 4:56 PM, (Omega) said:

As I was going through this thread page by page, I came across this post regarding the Trinity. I would say that Matthew 3:16,17 is one of the strongest verses in scripture proving a Triune Godhead as Jim pointed out. The Triune God (cf. 3:22; 11:7) is mentioned in the first book of the Bible.   

And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. (Genesis 1:26) 

There have been controversy over whether or not the word "us" used in the above verse refers to the Trinity. Some will say that it is an example of a "majestic plural", and that the ancient Hebrews also used the plural of majesty in ancient times. However, this did not exist at the time of Moses (who authored Genesis), so it cannot refer to a royal majestic. Furthermore, outside of scripture, the plural of majesty was first used in the 18th century when Anglo-Saxon kings and queens would refer to themselves as "we" or "our"; and it's another reason why it cannot refer to a plural of majesty. Some have also suggested that "us" is referring to God and His angels; however, angels cannot CREATE MAN -- only God can and did... therefore it cannot refer to angels. This is pretty much an irrefutable argument regarding the Triunity of God. I apologize if I derailed your thread, Alan. Eternal Security and the Deity of Christ are some of my favorite topics I'd like to discuss with like-minded Christians such as yourself.

God Bless!    

 

 

On 1/31/2018 at 7:04 PM, Alan said:

Omega,

You did not derail this thread.

The second chapter of Larkin's, "The Spirit World," was on, "The Tri-Unity [ or Trinity ] of God."

At the beginning of this overview, I did not comment much on the first three chapters. And, at the time, no discussion was initiated by anyone reading this overview.

If you, or anybody else, would like to go back and discuss further the first three chapters; Chapter One is on the nature of the angels (Michael, Gabriel and Satan); Chapter 2 is on the Trinity; and Chapter 3 is a full chapter on Satan.

Alan

 

Daniel, and other concerned brethren,

I am working on a more fuller study on Larkin's, Chapter 1, "The Spirit World," Chapter 2, "The Tri-Unity (the Trinity), of God," and Chapter 3, "Satan," than I allowed for at the beginning of this study in order to bring out any details that need to be dissussed in these three chapters.

Looking forward to a discussion on on these three subjects.

Alan

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Chapter 1

The Spirit World.”

Introduction

Except for a quotation of Ezekiel 1:4-14, and, “John's Living Creatures,” Rev.4:6-8, with an accompanying hand drawn picture, there are not charts in chapter 1.

 

Although there is no chart in Chapter 1 giving us details concerning, “The Spirit World,” the following charts that I have listed may be of a help to the reader concerning this chapter.

 

The chart on Satan, Chapter 3, page 9 (in Larkin’s book). This chart was already uploaded on page # 1, posted on November 3, 2017, in this study.

 

The chart on, “The Heavens, Chapter 6, page 49, (in Larkin’s book). This chart was already uploaded on page # 1, posted on November 8, 2017, in this study.

 

The chart on, “The Underworld,” Chapter 10, page 88 (In Larkin’s book). This chart was already uploaded on page # 2, posted on November 27, 2017, in this study.

 

The chart on, “The Judgments,”Chapter 19, page 146 (in Larkin’s book). This chart was already uploaded on page # 3, posted on January 7, 2018, in this study.

Overview

Larkin brings our a very important fact about the scriptures that is very obvious, but, somewhat neglected. Larkin states in his first sentence, “The Scriptures are full of the “Supernatural.”i

 

Larkin states an important fact concerning the “Spirit World,” The “Heavenlies” are peopled with Spirit Beings. There are of two classes, good and evil. They are classified as “Seraphim,” “Cherubim,” “Angels” (Good and Bad), “Principalities,” “Powers,” “Age Rulers of Darkness,” “Wicked Spirits,” (Eph. 6:12), “Thrones,” “Dominions,” (Col. 1:16), “Fallen Angels,” (2 Pet. 2:4), “Spirits in Prison,” (1 Peter 3:18-20), “Demons,” “Seducing Spirits.” 1 Tim. 4:1.”ii

Below are the Scriptures Referenced by Larkin

  • Ephesians 6:12, “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities,against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.”

  • Colossians 1:16, “For by him [ Jesus ] were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in the earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him.”

  • 2 Peter 2:4

  • 1 Peter 3:18-20, “For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; Which sometime were disobedient, when once the long-suffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a-preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.”

  • 1 Timothy 4:1 and 2, “Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron.”

    Angels

    Larkin then proceeds to list some examples of the work and nature of angels.

  • Innumerable: Hebrews 12:22

  • Mighty in power:2 Thessalonians 1:7

  • They excel in strength(no scripture reference given but supplied by Alan): 2 Kings 19:35; Matthew 28:2 and Revelation 20:1-3

  • Glorious: Luke 9:26

  • Have great knowledge (no scripture given).

  • Ministering Spirits: Hebrews 1:13 & 14

  • Executioners of God’s wrath: 2 Thessalonians 1:7&8

  • Gather the Elect of Israel: Matthew 24:31

  • Supplied the physical needs of God’s people: Matthew 4:11 and 1 Kings 19:4-8

    Three Great Leaders

Larkin studies three great angels that are leaders.

 

1. Michael

 

Michael is called a “prince” in Daniel 10:13, 21 and 12:1

 

In Jude 9 Michael is called the archangel.

 

Larkin states, “...in command of the, Angelic “Army of Heaven.”iii

 

Associated with the resurrection of the dead: Daniel 12:1 & 2 and with the resurrection of Moses in Jude 9. And associated with the voice of the “archangel” in the resurrection of the saints in 1 Thessalonians 4:16. Larkin states that the voice of the archangel will be Michael as he is the only angel called an “archangel.”

 

2. Gabriel.

 

Larkin states that it seems Gabriel is associated with the redemptive work of God.

 

Gabriel appeared to Daniel in Daniel 8:16 and 9:21-27. And, to Zacharias, Luke 1:11-20, and then to Mary in Luke 1:26-38.

 

3. Satan.

 

Larkin mentions that Satan is evil in character and the source of all the anarchy and rebellion in the universe. Larkin will cover the character, and work, of Satan more fully in Chapter 3.

 

Larkin does mention that we are warned that our warfare is against the, “Principalities and Powers of Evil,”iv and references the reader to Ephesians 6:12 and to Job 15:15

i Larkin, Clarence The Spirit World, (Glenside, PA: Rev. Clarence Larkin Estate), 1921, page 1

ii Larkin, Clarence The Spirit World, (Glenside, PA: Rev. Clarence Larkin Estate), 1921, page 1

iii Larkin, Clarence The Spirit World, (Glenside, PA: Rev. Clarence Larkin Estate), 1921, page 3

iv Larkin, Clarence The Spirit World, (Glenside, PA: Rev. Clarence Larkin Estate), 1921, page 3

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Michael the Archangel and the Coming of the Christ for the Church

Associated with the resurrection of the dead: Daniel 12:1 & 2 and with the resurrection of Moses in Jude 9. And associated with the voice of the “archangel” in the resurrection of the saints in 1 Thessalonians 4:16. Larkin states that the voice of the archangel will be Michael as he is the only angel called an “archangel.”

Here are the two verses in question:

Jude 9, “Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, the Lord rebuke thee.”

1 Thessalonians 4:16, “For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first.”

I am also of the persuasion that the voice of the archangel spoken of in 1 Thessalonians 4:16 is that of Michael the archangel as written in Jude 9.

Are there any thoughts concerning this matter that anybody wants to bring out?

Alan

 

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My apologies Bro. Alan. I had good intentions in the beginning of this thread, but since then have not followed it as I should. We had a semi crisis in that we had to vacate our residence without much notice and finding a new residence was extremely difficult. Couple that with two old people trying to do the actual packing cleaning and moving and the situation became almost impossible.

We have it done now and are living among the boxes with pathways between. So, sorry to say that I have nothing to comment on in this thread which I had every intention of keeping up with.

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Jim,

I fully understand. I will delay uploading the next lesson for a day or so in case you would like to comment on any previous lesson.

To our new Brethren on OnLineBaptist,

I noticed that lately we have had several new brethren join the OnLineBaptist forum.  Welcome! Please feel free to comment on any of the previous Overviews / Lessons, on our study of Clarence Larkin's book, "The Spirit World."

Alan

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On 11/10/2017 at 8:37 AM, Jim_Alaska said:

Bro. Alan. I am behind you in my reading of Larkin's work. But since you stated that you would like other's comments as thoughts came to them I thought I would make a short comment on something that I have often taken exception with.

It has to do with Larkin's observations in his section on the Tri-Unity of God. I speak specifically of his assertion that The Trinity was present at the Baptism of Jesus.

While I do believe that The Trinity was present at the Baptism of Jesus and that this is a strong proof verse for the argument that there is a Trinity, I take strong exception with Larkin and most others teaching that the "HOLY SPIRIT" was present in the form of a "Dove." Mat 3:16-17.

While my views in opposition to this teaching are not something that I would break fellowship over, I do believe that for the sake of clarity and proper "rightly dividing" I have always taken exception to this teaching regarding the form the Holy Spirit took in this Scripture.

John clearly says that he saw The Spirit of God "descending like a dove." To me this speaks expressly to the manner in which The Spirit of God descended, not the actual form He descended in.

I hope my observation and understanding does not seem too "picky', but this has always been my point of departure with the teaching of most on this subject. It is because of this one verse that we see The Holy Spirit depicted by most teachers and writers as a dove in picture form in their work.

Bro. Alan and others following this thread. I find it is confession time. To say I am chagrined at my comments in the quoted post I made would be an understatement. In looking back over this book review I also looked at my comment and upon further examination (which I should have done originally) I see something that causes me to reexamine my position on this particular subject regarding how the Holy Spirit descended.

I find I am actually embarrassed at this late date by my lack of proper study before presenting a personal interpretation.

While Larkin was expressly quoting from Mat. 3:16-17  and his referenced Scripture does indeed state that the Spirit "descended like a dove." and does not say it was in the form of a dove, there is a Scripture that expressly does say it was "in the form of a dove."   Luke 3:22 And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.

While Larkin could have done a better job of referencing, I was guilty of poor study methods and not thoroughly studying the subject. In my own pitiful defense I admit that although I held to a personal belief, I had never actually done a study on the subject. I just took exception with the idea of it being in the form of a dove based solely on the Scripture in Mat 3;16-17

My sincerest apologies to one and all. I also admit to being surprised that no one else caught my blunder.   :4_13_13:

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The Spirit World

Chapter 2, “The Tri-Unity of God”

Overview

There are no charts in Chapter 2.

Larkin states, “One of the great “Mysteries” of the “Spirit World” is the “TRI-UNITY” of God. The Scriptures clearly teach the distinct personality of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.”i

Larkin gives three verses as references and then comments on them in order to show that the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit acted as one entity.

1. Matthew 3:16-17, “And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.”

2. Genesis 1:26, “And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.”

3. Genesis 11:7, “Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another’s speech.”

Additional References by Alan Concerning the Trinity

I would like to add 1 John 5:7 as a reference to this study. 1 John 5:7, “For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.” 1 John 5:7 clearly states that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are one.

Larkin’s Illustration of the Sun

In an effort to give an example of the Trinity of the Godhead, Larkin proceeds to give us the illustration of how the Sun of our solar System is a “trinity.”

Larkin states, “The “Sun” of our Solar system is a “Trinity.” It manifests itself in a “Threefold” manner, “Heat,” “Light,” and “Chemical Action.” These three properties of the Sun make up the Sun itself. Neither one of them by itself is the Sun. The “Heat” of the Sun is not seen, but is felt. The “Light” of the Sun can be seen, and it is the “Light” of the Sun that makes the Sun VISIBLE. The “Chemical Action” of the Sun can neither be seen nor felt, but its power is revealed in the growing plant, and on the photographic plate.”ii

Larkin then states that the Heat of the Sun corresponds to the Father as the Father cannot be seen but He can be felt by His love towards us. Larkin references 1 John 4:7-16 and John 3:16

Larkin states that the “Light” rays of the Sun correspond to God the Son. God the Son, the Lord Jesus was “visible” and came to manifest the love of God (invisible). Larkin references three passages.

(1) 1 Timothy 3:16, “And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.”

(2) John 8:12, “Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.”

(3) John 14:9, “Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?”

Larkin states that the “Chemical Action” of the Sun correspond with the Holy Spirit. Larkin states, “It is the Holy Spirit that gives life and power on the sensitive plate of the “Human Heart.”iii

Additional References by Alan Concerning the Holy Spirit

I would like to add that it is the Holy Spirit, through the scriptures, convicting the hearts of the lost to be saved, guiding the saint to the truths of the scriptures, comforts us, and gives us power to witness.

1. John 16:8, “And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: Of sin, because they believe not on me; Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more; Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.”

2. John 16:13, “Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.”

3. John 16:13, “Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.”

4. Acts 1:8, “But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.”

The Manifestation of the Trinity in the Old & New Testaments

Larkin continues his illustration with the Sun and the Trinity by explaining how the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit manifested the unity of the Trinity it dealing with the sons of men on the earth. Larkin references two New Testament passages.

1. Matthew 28:20, “Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.”

2. John 16:7-14

Additional Thought by Alan Concerning the Manifestation of the Trinity

Typically, as with the other subjects in this book, Larkin does not go into a lot of detail concerning the manifestation of the Trinity in the Old Testament. This is partly due to the length of the Old Testament and the manner in which God worked. It is my opinion that this was done purposely in order to give the individual reading the book just the basic thought and guiding the reader to further study on his own.

Here are a few of the passages of the Old Testament concerning the manifestation of the Trinity, or the Tri-Unity, of the Godhead.

1. Genesis 1:1-3

2. Genesis 1:27 & 28

3. Genesis 18:1-33

4. In Genesis 24:1-67 we have the moving story of Abraham (a type of the Father), the servant (a type of the Holy Spirit), seeking a bride for Isaac (a type of the Lord Jesus), working in perfect unity. “And he [the servant] said, Blessed be the LORD God of my master Abraham who hath not left destitute my master of his mercy and his truth: I being in the way, the LORD led me to the house of my master’s brethren.” Genesis 23:27

5. In Ezekiel 1:1-28 we have a clear teaching of the working of the Trinity in perfect Unity.

The Tri-Unity of God.”

Larkin states that man, who was made in the image of God, is a trinity. Larkin references two verses.

1. 1 Thessalonians 5:23 “And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.”

2. Genesis 1:26, “And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.”

Additional Information by Alan Concerning the Trinity of Man

On page 85, in Chapter 10, “Man’s Relation to the Spirit-World, Larkin has a chart that may be beneficial to your understanding of the trinity of man. The chart is located on page 2 of this overview.

 

i Larkin, Clarence The Spirit World, (Glenside, PA: Rev. Clarence Larkin Estate), 1921, page 5

ii Larkin, Clarence The Spirit World, (Glenside, PA: Rev. Clarence Larkin Estate), 1921, page 5

iii Larkin, Clarence The Spirit World, (Glenside, PA: Rev. Clarence Larkin Estate), 1921, page 6

 

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Bro. Alan, 

Larkin's illustration of the sun seems a bit cumbersome and possibly complicated for some to fathom.

I like the old standby of an egg for illustrating a trinity; shell, white, and yolk. It takes all three to be a trinity. Three components (persons) comprise what we know as an egg; (God)

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Yes Bro. Alan, I love it for its simplicity. I remember first hearing it as a young Christian and it really brought home the simplicity of a complicated subject in a manner that was instantly understandable. I'm just a simple guy and that is probably why it made such an impact on my mind. Of course if we really buckle down we can think of lots of simple things that can illustrate the concept of a trinity.

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9 hours ago, Jim_Alaska said:

Of course if we really buckle down we can think of lots of simple things that can illustrate the concept of a trinity.

Very good idea.

Any other illustrations that illustrate the trinity?

Also, one of the thoughts that Larkin brought out was how the Godhead is always in perfect unity. Larkin called it, "The Tri-Unity." The Lord Jesus stated it this way, "For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak." John 12:49 

Are there any comments on the perfect unity of the Trinity? Or, an illustration on the perfect unity of the Trinity in a simple illustration?

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Chapter 3

Satan

The following chart by Larkin is found on page 9.

Satan

The God of this Age.”

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The Original Earth” Note by Alan

As I have mentioned previously in various studies, I am not in agreement with Larkin’s teaching that there was an, “Original Earth,” and a “Pre-Adamic,” race on the earth before the creation of Adam. This teaching is generally referred to as, “The Gap theory.” Otherwise, the chart is of good value.

Larkin’s Overview Continued

Larkin clearly states that Satan is a person and quotes 1 Peter 5:8, “Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour.” Larkin also brings out, that as a person can be chained, so Satan will one day be chained: Revelation 20:1-3

Larkin brings out some of the names of Satan:

1. Devil.

2. Beelzebub.

3. Belial.

4. Adversary.

5. Dragon.

6. Serpent.

7. “The prince of the powers of the air. Ephesians 2:2

8. God of this world or age. 2 Corinthians 4:4

Larkin divides this study on Satan into five sections.

1. His Origin.

11. His Present Location.

111. His Kingdom.

1V. His Methods

V. His Doom.

Section 1: His Origin

Larkin brings out that Satan is a created being and was the guardian of the “Throne of God.” Larkin brings out the position and beauty of Satan, before his “fall,” as written in Ezekiel 28:11-19. Larkin teaches that the description in Ezekiel 28:11-19 is also a “foreview” of the Antichrist under the title of the, “King of Tyrus” and that the “Eden the garden of God,” Ezekiel 28:13, is a reference to heaven and not the earthly Eden.

Note on the Garden of Eden by Alan

Ezekiel 28:13 says, “Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.”

The garden of Eden in Genesis 2:8 to 2:24 was planted by God: it is His garden. And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.” Genesis 2:8. Therefore, it is my thoughts that Ezekiel 28:13 is a reference to the physical garden of Eden and not a reference to heaven.

Lucifer, Son of the Morning

Larkin continues his discourse a exposition of Job 38:7, “When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?” and Isaiah 14:4, “Thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon, and say, How hath the oppressor ceased! The golden city ceased!” Larkin believes that the king of Babylon as mentioned in Isaiah 14:4 is a “foreview” of Satan as the Antichrist.

Larkin partially quotes, and interjects his own thoughts, while combining Isaiah 14:13 & 14, “I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the ‘Stars of God’ (other ruling powers); I will sit also upon the Mount of the Congregation, in the sides of the north. I will ascend above the clouds; I will be like THE MOST HIGH;” i Please take note that he does not quote the King James Version fully nor does he tells the reader which version he uses.

Larkin continues his discourse and states that his occurred after the creation of the “original earth,” as Satan was ruling the original earth, and his rebellion caused the “Pre-Adamic World” to become a chaos. Larkin cites Genesis 1:2, “And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.”

Larkin further conjectures, “When Satan became unwilling to rule the Original earth as a subordinate, and determined to rule it independent of God, he put his own will in opposition to the Will of God.”ii

Also, at this point, treason entered the heart of Satan and this was the origin of the first sin. In exalting himself, Satan became the malignant Devil since that time.

Note by Alan on Isaiah 14:13 & 14

Isaiah 14:13 & 14 “For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most high.”

There is no reference to the events of Isaiah 14:13 & 14 taking place on the earth, before the creation of Adam, nor was the earth “inhabited” by Satan and “other ruling powers” between Genesis 1: 1 and 2.

Note by Alan Concerning Satan and Pride

In Isaiah 14:13 & 14Satan fell from his exalted position of the covering of the throne of God through the pride of his own heart. Satan heart was lifted up with pride and he became the “evil” individual that we know as the “Devil.” As a free moral agent, Satan made the deliberate decision to attempt to exalt himself to “be like the most high.” Proverbs 4:23 “Keep thy heart with all diligence; for out of it are the issues of life.”

The Problem of Evil

Larkin states, “God did not create “Evil.” “A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.” Matt.7:15-18.”iii

Larkin states, “To be a “free moral agent” implies that one has the power of “choice.” When God created the angels, and all the glorious beings that He originally created, there was no sin or “Evil” in the Universe. But as free moral agents they had the power of choice, not between “Good” and Evil,”but between following the “Will of God,” or their “Own Will.”iv

Note by Alan Concerning “Evil” and How it is Created

Here are some thoughts concerning “evil.”

God did not create evil. Evil is the result of sin. Galatians 6:7 & 8, “Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the spirit shall of the spirit reap life everlasting.” The result of Satan’s sin of pride was evil.

1. Amos 3:6, “Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?” All of the wars and fightings are the result of sin. The nation of Israel sinned and the evils of war was the consequence.

2. Isaiah 45:6 & 7, “That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else. I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.” Satan sinned and then God created the evil in his life.

3. Hell is an “evil” place. Did God originally create hell? No. Hell, the evil place, was created after Satan sinned. Hell is the consequence of sin. Hell was originally created for the Devil and his angels. When man sinned, the consequence of that sin, is to be cast down into hell.

4. The Lord Jesus made it abundantly clear that hell was created as a consequence of the sin of Satan and his angels. Matthew 25:41, “Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels.”

5. “For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.” Romans 6:23 The consequence of sin, whether it be Satan, an angel, or any man, is death in hell. Hell was created by God, and evil place, as a consequence of sin.

6. God, in the book of Genesis, and the Apostle Paul, makes it abundantly clear that even the “evil” in the realm of nature (and the universe itself), is the consequence of sin. Genesis 3:17, “And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life.” Romans 8:20-22

11. His Present Location

Larkin states that Satan’s present location is not in hell and says that 2 Peter 2:4 Jude 6, and 1 Peter 3:18-20 does not apply to Satan at this present time.

Larkin brought out that Satan appeared in the presence of God in Job chapter 1 and 2 so that it was obvious that Satan was at liberty and not imprisoned at that time. Therefore, it is obvious that Satan has the ability to travel to the present world and into heaven.

Note by Alan concerning Satan Currently not being Imprisoned

During the lifetime of Christ on the earth Satan appeared to Christ during His temptation, Matthew 4:1-11 and 1 Peter 3:8 makes it abundantly clear that Satan is not in hell nor in another place of imprisonment. 1 Peter 5:8, “Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour.”

111. His Kingdom

Larkin quotes Matthew 12:24-30, Ephesians 6:12, and then uses Daniel 10:10-14 to show the reader that the kingdom of Satan is in the spiritual realm.

1. Principalities.

2. Powers.

3. Rulers of Darkness.

4. Wicked spirits in the Heavenlies.

1V. His Method

Larkin stresses that Satan uses two methods.

1. He is the Deceiver of the World.

As the “god” of this current world, or age. Satan deceives the peoples of this world. 1 John 5:19, “And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.”

2 Corinthians 4:3 & 4 says, “But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.”

Concerning Satan blinding the minds of the lost, Larkin states the following truth, “To this end Satan has his preachers who preach “another gospel.” Gal. 1:6-9. That gospel is the “doctrine of devils.” 1 Tim. 4:1. He is the instigator of “The Great Apostasy.”v

Larkin then quotes from 2 Peter 2:1 & 2, “But there were false teachers also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you; who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that brought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.”

Larkin then states, “These “false teachers” are to be seen on every hand. They are those who deny the “Virgin Birth,” “Deity,” “Bodily Resurrection” and “Personal Premillennial Return” of the Lord Jesus Christ.”vi

Larkin then states, “Satan is very subtle in his methods, and if it were possible he would deceive the very elect. He knows all the great scripture subjects that are of universal interest to humanity, and he is too wise to attack them openly, so he adulterates them with false doctrine.”vii

2. He is the Adversary of God’s People.

Larkin brings out that from Genesis 3:20 to Revelation 20:10 there is a constant warfare between “Good” and “Evil” and proceeds to give biblical examples of this warfare.

Note on the Warfare by Alan

Paul stated that we are in a spiritual battle. “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” Ephesians 6:12

Paul the apostle stated that we should be good soldiers in this spiritual battle. “Thou therefore endure hardness, as a good soldier of Jesus Christ.” 2 Timothy 2:3

Our amour is spiritual. “Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.” Ephesians 6:11,

Our Sword, our weapon, is the scriptures. “For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.” Hebrews 4:12

The Captain, the Officer in Command, of our Salvation, is the Lord Jesus. “For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.” Hebrews 2:10

V. His Doom.

Larkin shows that Satan, in the form of the Antichrist, will one day be cast down onto the earth, in the form of a man, and for 3 ½ years, Revelation 12:9-12, rule on the face of the earth visible to all mankind. And, that for 1,000 literal years, Satan will be cast in hell, Revelation 20:1-3, released, and after a great final battle on the earth, be cast in the lake of fire for eternity.

  • Revelation 20:10, “And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.”

  • Matthew 25:41, “Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels.”

i Larkin, Clarence The Spirit World, (Glenside, PA: Rev. Clarence Larkin Estate), 1921, page 12

ii Larkin, Clarence The Spirit World, (Glenside, PA: Rev. Clarence Larkin Estate), 1921, page 12

iii Larkin, Clarence The Spirit World, (Glenside, PA: Rev. Clarence Larkin Estate), 1921, page 12

iv Larkin, Clarence The Spirit World, (Glenside, PA: Rev. Clarence Larkin Estate), 1921, page 14

v Larkin, Clarence The Spirit World, (Glenside, PA: Rev. Clarence Larkin Estate), 1921, page 18

vi Larkin, Clarence The Spirit World, (Glenside, PA: Rev. Clarence Larkin Estate), 1921, page 18

vii Larkin, Clarence The Spirit World, (Glenside, PA: Rev. Clarence Larkin Estate), 1921, page 18

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After I made the notes on Satan, some more thoughts came to me concerning the "Methods Of Satan."

Note on the Methods of Satan by Alan

Satan is a deceiver and our adversary. Satan uses deception: through himself, his angels, evil spirits, and his ministers (false prophets, false teachers and false ministers of the gospel), in an effort to deceive. We will briefly look at two of his methods. In the following two methods we must remember that false teachers, false religions, and false prophets have used these methods throughout history and in the Christian realm in our age.

1. Satan subtly, then openly, places doubt on the word of God. In Genesis 3:1-21 Satan deceived Eve in a subtle manner and caused Adam and Eve to openly transgress the commandment of God. Satan started this deception by questioning what God said then openly twisting the very words of God. Genesis 3:1, “Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?”

In our day and age, this questioning of the word of God continues unabated by false ministers through the proliferation of false Bible translations of the King James Version of 1611 in seminaries, books, and compromising ministers. In the English language, the King James Version of 1611 is the “preserved word of God” and every version since the Revised Version of 1881 is a corrupt translation.

2. Satan miss-used, and miss-quoted, the scriptures themselves in order to try and deceive the Lord Jesus on the Mount of Temptation as recorded in Matthew 4:1-11

Matthew 4:6 “And saith [Satan] unto him [Jesus] If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.” Satan

miss-quoted, and miss-used, Psalm 91:11, “For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways.” Satan left out, “… in all thy ways…”

 

The miss-use, miss-quoting, and taking a verse out of context, or changing the meaning of words in the scriptures, and maligning the King James Version, continues unabated by compromising ministers, false teachers, the Charismatics, the Catholics, Seminary

Professors, Greek scholars, the Church of Christ denomination, trolls on the internet, disgruntled saints, the Progressive Movement among the Fundamentalist Movement, and many others too numerous to mention.

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On 5/29/2018 at 11:44 AM, Alan said:

Ezekiel 28:13 says, “Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.”

The garden of Eden in Genesis 2:8 to 2:24 was planted by God: it is His garden. And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.” Genesis 2:8. Therefore, it is my thoughts that Ezekiel 28:13 is a reference to the physical garden of Eden and not a reference to heaven.

Brother Alan and sister Sherry, I am in agreement with you on this passage of scripture. Sadly, I think the erroneous "gap theory" is in large part based on both disregarding scripture as well as adding to scripture. 

When we compare Genesis 1: 16 to Job 38:7 and Rev.12:4, I believe we can clearly see when God made the angels (including Lucifer). According to Genesis 1:19, it was the fourth (literal) day. 

"And God made two great lights to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night; he made the stars also" (Gen.1:16)

"When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?" (Job 38:7)

"And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth..." (Rev.12:4)

While it's true that God made the physical celestial sun, moon, and stars on this fourth day also, I do believe God's word shows a dual meaning for the word "stars" as shown in the above scripture. As surely we cannot disregard the intended meaning of Job. 38:7 and Rev.12:4 to the use of the word "stars". 

As we also see the term "garden" in both sections of scripture (Genesis chapters 2-3, and others as well as Ezekiel 28). There is also another clue given in Genesis 13:10. Let's compare Gen.13:10 to Ez.28:13.

"And Lot lifted up his eyes, and beheld all the plain of Jordan, that it was well watered every where, before the Lord destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah, even as the garden of the Lord, like the land of Egypt, as thou comest unto Zoar." (Gen.13:10)

compared to:

"Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created." (Ez.28:13) 

We see in all 3 parts of scripture here (Gen.2:8 (and other references in Gen.ch. 2-3) as well as in Gen.13:10 and Ez.28:13; the garden was a literal place on the physical earth that God created. To claim that the garden is in heaven, is to add to scripture as well as to omit all other references to the garden in scripture. 

Your teachings are a blessing! And always spur on more desire to study out a matter for myself in God's word (as I hope it for others as well).

God Bless! Maranatha!!!

 

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On 6/13/2018 at 1:37 PM, Ronda said:

Your teachings are a blessing! And always spur on more desire to study out a matter for myself in God's word (as I hope it for others as well).

God Bless! Maranatha!!!

Ronda,

"The light of the eyes rejoiceth the heart: and a good report maketh the bones fat." Proverbs 15:30

Thank you for the good report. It is a blessing in my heart to know that this study is a blessing to you.

It is my hope that this Overview, and studies of the different subjects in Larkin's, "The Spirit World," is a blessings to others also.

It was my intention at the beginning to help others make a self-study on the different subjects in Larkin's book in order to have a more complete knowledge of the Spirit World.

Alan

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