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2 minutes ago, DaveW said:

Bold accusations considering tou do not the first thing about many of us. Or should that be ANY of us?

It is exactly this kind of unfounded and unjustified accusation that comes not from one who knows the Lord and His doctrine.

1Jn 4:11 Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another. 

Your unfounded and false attack identifies you as doubtful of being His disciple:

Joh 13:35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

Yeah I should have been more specific. The original post by Matthew 24 was good and I'm sure that many followers here are good.
But some of YOU (aimed more specifically) seem to be Sodomite sympathizers at the very least.
That's why you get triggered like a snowflake by some bold preaching.

BTW, you can go back just 20 yrs and find a lot of IFB pastors talking just like Anderson.

Go search Mark Turner sermon "Be Instance".

Here is a sample of that. This is old school Baptist preaching.
http://godgunsgutsglory.com/blog/?p=66

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54 minutes ago, Shawn Barnish said:

Yeah I should have been more specific. The original post by Matthew 24 was good and I'm sure that many followers here are good.
But some of YOU (aimed more specifically) seem to be Sodomite sympathizers at the very least.
That's why you get triggered like a snowflake by some bold preaching.

BTW, you can go back just 20 yrs and find a lot of IFB pastors talking just like Anderson.

Go search Mark Turner sermon "Be Instance".

Here is a sample of that. This is old school Baptist preaching.
http://godgunsgutsglory.com/blog/?p=66

So are you saying that all of this excuses that earlier list of Anderson's sins?

 

why does he get to "call out" other good men of God for bull butter accusations, and then people complain when he isn't well liked. Then you have the hilarious delusion that it is because we cannot handle bold preaching.

thats the kind of logic I expect from a liberal democrat. Let's attack, and then play victim when they don't like what we do. Then we will play the race card when we blame them.

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1 minute ago, Joshua Agan said:

So are you saying that all of this excuses that earlier list of Anderson's sins?

 

why does he get to "call out" other good men of God for bull butter accusations, and then people complain when he isn't well liked. Then you have the hilarious delusion that it is because we cannot handle bold preaching.

thats the kind of logic I expect from a liberal democrat. Let's attack, and then play victim when they don't like what we do. Then we will play the race card when we blame them.

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"List of sins". HA HA HA!
Uh those heretics need to be called out.
Just admit. You are butthurt (likely literally) because he rightly rebukes Sodomy.

Speaking of dogs. I suppose you wouldn't like this place being rebuked either?
 

 

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6 minutes ago, Shawn Barnish said:

"List of sins". HA HA HA!
Uh those heretics need to be called out.
Just admit. You are butthurt (likely literally) because he rightly rebukes Sodomy.

Speaking of dogs. I suppose you wouldn't like this place being rebuked either?
 

 

So my liberal comparison was more accurate than I first thought. Rather than actually address the proof that Anderson is a deceiver, you just laugh it off, redirect attention, and then toss a couple of insults for good measure.

lovely.

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There have always been roughhouse preachers, but that doesn't and never has made them Godly.

There is a difference between bold and strong preaching of the Word of God, and hateful, spiteful calling of curses upon sinners who need to be saved.

Let's look at the Lord's attitude to this sort of preaching:

Luke 9

53  And they did not receive him, because his face was as though he would go to Jerusalem.

 54  And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did?

 55  But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.

 56  For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them.And they went to another village.

 

That pretty much says it all - Jesus was not soft on sin, but right here you can see what He thought of preaching destruction on sinners.

 

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1 minute ago, DaveW said:

There have always been roughhouse preachers, but that doesn't and never has made them Godly.

There is a difference between bold and strong preaching of the Word of God, and hateful, spiteful calling of curses upon sinners who need to be saved.

Let's look at the Lord's attitude to this sort of preaching:

Luke 9

53  And they did not receive him, because his face was as though he would go to Jerusalem.

 54  And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did?

 55  But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.

 56  For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them.And they went to another village.

 

That pretty much says it all - Jesus was not soft on sin, but right here you can see what He thought of preaching destruction on sinners.

 

Amen!

I often tell people, "No man stood more strongly against sin than Jesus Christ, who died to overcome it. Yet thieves and prostitutes found compassion and grace at His feet."

Nevertheless, Anderson followers are incapable of showing God's love to certain sinners, and they often get just as nasty and vitriolic to brethren, too. That's a huge red flag, if ever I saw one.

God is not willing that ANY should perish, but that all should come to repentance. That's Bible.

Sp what does that tell us about Anderson who has made a name for himself by openly WANTING more people to have entered hell on the night of the club shooting, and appears to rail against any mention of repentance from a pulpit?

Does he have the SAME desire as God, or the OPPOSITE?

so why do people follow him?

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From 1st Timothy, Chapter 3:

1 This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.
2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
3 Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;
4 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;
5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)
6 Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.
7 Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.

 

This is one of the measures for judging Anderson's fitness to be a pastor.  How does he measure up folks?

Mr. Barnish, there was a time when I too liked the brashness of men like these, even Anderson.  But the Spirit directed me back to the scriptures (Jesus) and showed me the measure of a pastor.  That being said, shouldn't you and I also be like this?      

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1 hour ago, KountryBaptist said:

Amen, Pastor Anderson is hated among the brethren, and it is disgusting to see. Literally thousands of souls were saved because of him and his ministry, while these lazy pastors will not even take their church soulwinning.

 

Somebody's late the the party and didn't bother reading anything.....

are you ready with a bag full of insults and unfounded accusations, too, sir?

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Wait for it here or check your inboxes folks, Way of Life has produced a free booklet about Steven Anderson.  How fitting that this man is being discussed here and a ministry that the Lord uses greatly has produced something for the benefit of all, especially Anderson, a warning about the man and his ministry.

https://www.wayoflife.org/free_ebooks/what_about_steven_anderson.php

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7 hours ago, BroMatt said:

Hold on, I'm taking my church out soul-winning, I'm respond later today when I get back. 

See? They accuse "everyone else" of hating Anderson and spreading false accusations, while they are the ones hating on other preachers and falsely accusing all of us.

And the saddest part of it all is that they do it in the name of Christ and cannot see the problem!

Any honest and objective man can see that reality, but Anderson's followers are blindly marching to the beat of his drum.

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I don't usually get in the conversations about Steve Anderson, mostly because I find them fruitless, but I decided I would put in my two cents.

First, I don't have a lot of respect for a pastor that spends all his time screaming and yelling about the sins of America and very little time preaching on the sins in his church. I have no problem saying that homosexuality is a wicked, perverted, abominable sin and God will judge Sodomites. We all know the world is sinful, that shouldn't be a surprise. But the purpose of the pastor is for the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ (Eph. 4:12). Deal with your church's sins, deal with your church's problems, deal with your church's attitudes, deal with your church's walk with God.

Second, why doesn't Anderson talk about the other sins that God said were worthy of death, like cursing one's parents, or adultery, or not taking care of the problem of your ox pushing with its horns? Why only homosexuality? Aren't we supposed to preach the whole counsel of God? God said that the proud look and the lying tongue are an abomination to him. If I've cursed my parents and lied, can I still be saved?

Just some thoughts.

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So many “converts” - yet no repentance taught. Can we say false professions of faith?

The Bible teaches both repentance and faith are necessary for salvation. Repentance is turning from sin in the heart (ie. a change of mind about that sin - previously loving it but now believing that God’s Word says it is wrong) to the Saviour - letting one go to recieve the other. It is not cleaning up one’s life first - it is letting the sin go and trusting the Lord Jesus Christ to forgive you and cleanse you of those sins.

On another note, when my sister attended his church shortly after he started it, he told me over the phone that he believed his Bible was Jesus Christ (not that his Bible taught about Jesus Christ). Something wrong there...

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I know. If I had just heard someone else tell me he said this, I probably wouldn’t believe it - though I know there are a few cultists out there who believe weird things like that. I did get him to repeat it for clarification. I wish I could remember the full conversation but that was quite a few years ago now (while he was starting out his church in his own home shortly after finishing his Bible College).

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