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On 5/25/2017 at 1:47 PM, Baptistsenior said:

If you could not find an IFB church in your area, what kind of Baptist churches would you never attend?   

Any which hold "Arminian" beliefs like Freewill Baptists or any which are Calvinists like Primitive Baptist.

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24 minutes ago, Baptistsenior said:

Which ones would you say are not part of those two groups?  

Southern Baptist and IFB but not entirely. I personally haven't come across any IFB's or Southern Baptists who are "Arminian" in doctrine but, unfortunately, there are some in each of these labels who are Calvinists. You would just have to visit a church and find out if it is or isn't.

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44 minutes ago, heartstrings said:

Southern Baptist and IFB but not entirely. I personally haven't come across any IFB's or Southern Baptists who are "Arminian" in doctrine but, unfortunately, there are some in each of these labels who are Calvinists. You would just have to visit a church and find out if it is or isn't.

I listened to a radio preacher for a couple years before I realized that he was a calvanist, hope I'm not in a church that long before I figure it out LOL 

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The only baptist church I know around here that uses the KJV is a Gospel Standard Church, that is a Strict and Particular Baptist, an ulra calvinist church. There  is another that recently changed from NIV to KJV but after the family that forced that through all left the church, I am not sure if they still do.

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I know of a Maranatha Baptist church near where I live. It is very conservative. The women dress much like the Mennonites/Amish. Very plain, long dresses.

I used to attend American Baptist. It has an early Sunday service run only by the laity and the pastor rarely ever attended. When he did, he sat in the back. The laity would put on skits and each week a different person would give the sermon.

On 6/13/2017 at 0:22 PM, Baptistsenior said:

I listened to a radio preacher for a couple years before I realized that he was a calvanist, hope I'm not in a church that long before I figure it out LOL 

Might be a good idea when looking for a church to set up an appointment with the pastor and ask what his beliefs are.

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On 6/25/2017 at 7:42 AM, TheSword1227 said:

Might be a good idea when looking for a church to set up an appointment with the pastor and ask what his beliefs are.

I knew an Independent Fundamental Baptist church who got a new Pastor who swore he wasn't Calvanist, within a couple years that church got rid of the KJV and became a Calvanist church 

 

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30 minutes ago, Baptistsenior said:

I knew an Independent Fundamental Baptist church who got a new Pastor who swore he wasn't Calvanist, within a couple years that church got rid of the KJV and became a Calvanist church 

 

What Bible do they use now? ESV?

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2 hours ago, swathdiver said:

For the English language, anything other than the King James Bible.

What I see happening is the subtle watering down of the scriptures by many of these modern versions. However, I anger a lot of Christians on some of these site forums when I say this.

I do prefer the KJB, but will read other ones from time to time.I am old enough to remember when the King James was the bible of most churches. Then the NIV came along and the rest as they say is history.

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7 hours ago, TheSword1227 said:

Which bibles are fake?

Any bible that doesn't contain all of God's Word which for the English speaking people would be anything but the KJV     The Bible is our letter from God, and if you change it then it is no longer His Word  

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13 hours ago, TheSword1227 said:

I do prefer the KJB, but will read other ones from time to time.I am old enough to remember when the King James was the bible of most churches. Then the NIV came along and the rest as they say is history.

Then you don't mind moving from non-fiction to fiction?  ALL of the modern versions are based on the fraudulent Sinaiticus and non-existant Septuagint.  There is no chain of custody for the Septuagint.  The Sinaiticus was written on the Isle of Patmos around 1843, it has no earlier chain of custody.

Whereas the Masoretic text was quoted by our Lord and Savior Himself and thousands upon thousands of manucripts that make up the Received Text can be traced all through history.

Those phony bibles might contain the word of God here and there but they are not THE word of God.  It's like drinking coffee with arsenic in it.  Designed by the devil to lead you astray.  The weakest Christians are those who foolishly cling to their phony bibles.  They hardly grow in grace and are surrounded by false converts who know little better than they.

The KJV still outsells the NIV.  It's #2 but not #1.

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3 hours ago, swathdiver said:

Then you don't mind moving from non-fiction to fiction?  ALL of the modern versions are based on the fraudulent Sinaiticus and non-existant Septuagint.  There is no chain of custody for the Septuagint.  The Sinaiticus was written on the Isle of Patmos around 1843, it has no earlier chain of custody.

Whereas the Masoretic text was quoted by our Lord and Savior Himself and thousands upon thousands of manucripts that make up the Received Text can be traced all through history.

Those phony bibles might contain the word of God here and there but they are not THE word of God.  It's like drinking coffee with arsenic in it.  Designed by the devil to lead you astray.  The weakest Christians are those who foolishly cling to their phony bibles.  They hardly grow in grace and are surrounded by false converts who know little better than they.

The KJV still outsells the NIV.  It's #2 but not #1.

Yep, I know where the modern versions come from. I spent a lot of time arguing against them on another site forum and a bunch of christians jumped on me and tried to skin me alive.

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It's so hard to find a church these days. 
I've been a christian for almost 7 years and I did find a church who believes the weighty doctrines right from the bible, I stopped going there because the sermons are always about tithes and material blessings. 

I just see people with religion there. 

Also, during afternoons where the pastor will somehow discuss and study the bible with us, he mentioned a couple of things that had no support at all. 
I researched about it and it isn't really supported or anything. He firmly believes that RCC made Islam because of a specific Jesuit priest. 
It hasn't been proven yet. But either way, it doens't matter. They're both false religions. 

Also during Sunday Schools, one brother discussed the book "Purpose Driven Life". 
The church's statement of faith is good but I don't understand how the people would not really believe what it says it believes. 

Most Baptist churches here read John MacArthur and John Piper, meaning they are Calvinistic. 

If not, Christians you'd meet attend Victory Churches (Steve Murrell) and CCF.. both are megachurches. 

God knows christian friends are important. 

 

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1 hour ago, Celina Capalad said:

It's so hard to find a church these days. 
I've been a christian for almost 7 years and I did find a church who believes the weighty doctrines right from the bible, I stopped going there because the sermons are always about tithes and material blessings. 

I just see people with religion there. 

Also, during afternoons where the pastor will somehow discuss and study the bible with us, he mentioned a couple of things that had no support at all. 
I researched about it and it isn't really supported or anything. He firmly believes that RCC made Islam because of a specific Jesuit priest. 
It hasn't been proven yet. But either way, it doens't matter. They're both false religions. 

Also during Sunday Schools, one brother discussed the book "Purpose Driven Life". 
The church's statement of faith is good but I don't understand how the people would not really believe what it says it believes. 

Most Baptist churches here read John MacArthur and John Piper, meaning they are Calvinistic. 

If not, Christians you'd meet attend Victory Churches (Steve Murrell) and CCF.. both are megachurches. 

God knows christian friends are important. 

 

Good post. You hit some good points and are so right about it being hard to find a good church anymore. I hope this doesn't discourage you as you are a somewhat new Christian. Keep praying about it. There are still some churches out there that are bible believing, bible teaching.

Whenever I come across free books in a library and other places, if I see books like Purpose Driven Life that have false teachings, I toss them out so that others won't read it and get deceived.

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5 hours ago, Celina Capalad said:

It's so hard to find a church these days. 

As I mentioned to you several years ago, you may have to move to another town in order to serve the Lord in one of his New Testament Churches Miss Capalad.  We packed our things and moved sixty miles to attend a church of the kind that Christ built and died for during his earthly ministry.

Our church supports 3 missionaries north of Manila in Urdaneta City (Eddie Galyean), Manaoag (Phil Frasier) and Baguio City (Kevin Bennett).

God can provide if you think you cannot afford to move or find work or even get there.  Not only will the Lord choose for you a sound church but he will also pick one that will benefit by having you too as a member!  Remember the Holy Spirit gives us all gifts that we use to serve in our respective churches.  One of those mentioned just might need a person like you to help the congregation.

 

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9 hours ago, swathdiver said:

As I mentioned to you several years ago, you may have to move to another town in order to serve the Lord in one of his New Testament Churches Miss Capalad.  We packed our things and moved sixty miles to attend a church of the kind that Christ built and died for during his earthly ministry.

Our church supports 3 missionaries north of Manila in Urdaneta City (Eddie Galyean), Manaoag (Phil Frasier) and Baguio City (Kevin Bennett).

God can provide if you think you cannot afford to move or find work or even get there.  Not only will the Lord choose for you a sound church but he will also pick one that will benefit by having you too as a member!  Remember the Holy Spirit gives us all gifts that we use to serve in our respective churches.  One of those mentioned just might need a person like you to help the congregation.

 

Thanks for this. 
I researched about all those churches and they really are far from Manila. 
I'll try to find one again. :) 

Thanks everyone! I really appreciate it. :) 

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