Jehovah's Witness

[Ukulelemike 3,780]

1 hour ago, Jim_Alaska said:

This is true to the extreme, Mike. They are adamant that only 144,000 go to heaven, all other JW's get to spend eternity on what they call "Paradise Earth."

This imaginary 144,000 are so special that only they get to actually partake of what we call the Lord's Supper, which they call "The Memorial." At their memorial service no one gets to actually partake of the wine and bread. They pass it out and you are supposed to just pass it to the person next to you. This si  supposedly because no one can possibly know who is of the 144,000, and they don't want to leave out the possibility that one of the 144,000 might actually be in their congregation and therefore worthy to partake of the bread and wine.

They get a tremendous amount of mileage out of the 144,000 that is nowhere to be found in Scripture.

I've thought about going to one of their memorials and partaking, with a knowing smile. Seriously, how could they know otherwise?

 

[Ukulelemike 3,780]

Not sure why they would think the new heaven and earth are just the same heaven and earth, but 'fixed'. Don't they know that this earth, and all creation, has been permanently defiled by sin? They MUST be made anew. Even Heaven itself was tainted when Lucifer fell and took some of the angels with him-so there needs to be a passing of the old and a making of a new.  This is the same reason there was no pre-Adamic earth with a gap: because the taint of sin would have been upon that priginal earth, and no 'washing' of it could make a difference. Only by starting with a newly-created heaven and earth could God, at the completion, look at it all and declare it all very good: it would still have been tainted with sin, filled with the bones of the dead, not 'good' at all.

[Jim_Alaska 2,341]

On 4/3/2017 at 9:29 AM, Ukulelemike said:

I've thought about going to one of their memorials and partaking, with a knowing smile. Seriously, how could they know otherwise?

 

They would know because you are not a JW.

[Invicta 1,553]

On 03/04/2017 at 7:29 AM, DaveW said:

Basically:

144000 = super special place in heaven grade 1.

Regular faithful JW = spot in regular grade heaven.

And here's the interesting bit:

Sincere religious folk who are not JW's = grade three heaven, which I think is actually "new earth".

The rest just stop being anything or anywhere - no hell, no other judgrment.

 

When I was told that I said "If you are right, I still get there because I have a sincere faith; but if am right, you spend eternity in Hell. Why would I change for that?"

That is a good path to take - tell them that you are a faithful Christian and ask them what happens to people like you.

JWs  don't beleive in Hell they say it should read Hades and that is just the grave, which, they say, is what the ancient Greeks believed. which of course the ancient Greeks did not believe. I had quite a long discussion on that with some a few years ago.

More recently, the week before last in fact, I had a knock on the door and there were two young women  who wanted to discuss the bible with me.  They did not offer any literature which was a first but one had the JW bible on a Samsung tablet.  I said I would get my bible and they said which bible was it? and I sad it was the King James.  I can't remember all the conversation as it was rather long, but I asked if they were saved. They said  "We can't be sure".  I answered that the bible says we can, and  the younger one with the tablet quoted John 3:16. I think she implied that you only have eternal life while you believed, but I said, If it is eternal or everlasting, It cannot be everlasting if you can lose it.  

At some time during the converstion, the postie delivered a bundle of Evangelical Times for our churh, and I asked them if they would accept a copy and they said no.  I  said you expect me to read your publications but you won't read mine. They said "WE are firm in our beliefs."  

 

[Disciple.Luke 38]

On 5/2/2017 at 7:41 PM, Invicta said:

JWs  don't beleive in Hell they say it should read Hades and that is just the grave, which, they say, is what the ancient Greeks believed. which of course the ancient Greeks did not believe. I had quite a long discussion on that with some a few years ago.

More recently, the week before last in fact, I had a knock on the door and there were two young women  who wanted to discuss the bible with me.  They did not offer any literature which was a first but one had the JW bible on a Samsung tablet.  I said I would get my bible and they said which bible was it? and I sad it was the King James.  I can't remember all the conversation as it was rather long, but I asked if they were saved. They said  "We can't be sure".  I answered that the bible says we can, and  the younger one with the tablet quoted John 3:16. I think she implied that you only have eternal life while you believed, but I said, If it is eternal or everlasting, It cannot be everlasting if you can lose it.  

At some time during the converstion, the postie delivered a bundle of Evangelical Times for our churh, and I asked them if they would accept a copy and they said no.  I  said you expect me to read your publications but you won't read mine. They said "WE are firm in our beliefs."  

 

Watchtower literature says that the Jewish faith believed in a common grave (soul sleep), but they were influenced by the Greeks which led to the immortal soul belief.

I have watched several YouTube videos of Christian's attempting to evangelize JWs, and it is unimpressive to say the least. I believe our approach is all wrong. Many Christians start conversations with JWs thinking that if they convince them that heaven is open to everyone not just 144,000, they will get excited and leave the Society. The problem is most JWs DONT want to go to heaven. They want to live on a paradise earth with their resurrected wives, moms,dads, children, etc.. To go to heaven for a JW means you transform into some weird immortal invisible "spirit creature" apart from their families. 

[Ukulelemike 3,780]

On 5/2/2017 at 4:41 PM, Invicta said:

JWs  don't beleive in Hell they say it should read Hades and that is just the grave, which, they say, is what the ancient Greeks believed. which of course the ancient Greeks did not believe. I had quite a long discussion on that with some a few years ago.

More recently, the week before last in fact, I had a knock on the door and there were two young women  who wanted to discuss the bible with me.  They did not offer any literature which was a first but one had the JW bible on a Samsung tablet.  I said I would get my bible and they said which bible was it? and I sad it was the King James.  I can't remember all the conversation as it was rather long, but I asked if they were saved. They said  "We can't be sure".  I answered that the bible says we can, and  the younger one with the tablet quoted John 3:16. I think she implied that you only have eternal life while you believed, but I said, If it is eternal or everlasting, It cannot be everlasting if you can lose it.  

At some time during the converstion, the postie delivered a bundle of Evangelical Times for our churh, and I asked them if they would accept a copy and they said no.  I  said you expect me to read your publications but you won't read mine. They said "WE are firm in our beliefs."  

 

I would say, at that point, challenge them on whether they actually know their beliefs. I find many, when pressed, don't know and have to go to their extra books that explain why their Bible means something different from what it says. I have dealt with a local JW many times and have found him willing to blatantly lie about their beliefs just so as not to be shown to be wrong. 

[Invicta 1,553]

Next time I shall ask them "What must I do to be saved?" and see their answer. 

[TheSword1227 24]

On 3/12/2017 at 9:28 PM, Disciple.Luke said:

I accept their literature, and throw it away later so their theological poison doesn't end up in the hands of a biblically illiterate Christian.

They are very nice people and I respect their zeal. They put much of the Christian world to shame when it comes to sharing their message, even though it false.

You mentioned the gang (Governing Body) in Brooklyn, but their headquarters is now in Walkill and Patterson, New York. They sold all their Brooklyn buildings for millions of dollars.

I like the fact that you toss out their literature. it's one of the ways Christians can help. I do this all the time as I see their literature everywhere.

Those in a "works" theology always have much zeal. What they lack is assurance of where they will end up when this life is over. I once spoke with an elderly gentleman who was a JW his whole life. I asked him if he had assurance of salvation. He said: "I can only hope I have done enough." Sad.

[TheSword1227 24]

On 5/2/2017 at 7:41 PM, Invicta said:

JWs  don't beleive in Hell they say it should read Hades and that is just the grave, which, they say, is what the ancient Greeks believed. which of course the ancient Greeks did not believe. I had quite a long discussion on that with some a few years ago.

More recently, the week before last in fact, I had a knock on the door and there were two young women  who wanted to discuss the bible with me.  They did not offer any literature which was a first but one had the JW bible on a Samsung tablet.  I said I would get my bible and they said which bible was it? and I sad it was the King James.  I can't remember all the conversation as it was rather long, but I asked if they were saved. They said  "We can't be sure".  I answered that the bible says we can, and  the younger one with the tablet quoted John 3:16. I think she implied that you only have eternal life while you believed, but I said, If it is eternal or everlasting, It cannot be everlasting if you can lose it.  

At some time during the converstion, the postie delivered a bundle of Evangelical Times for our churh, and I asked them if they would accept a copy and they said no.  I  said you expect me to read your publications but you won't read mine. They said "WE are firm in our beliefs."  

 

The JW organization forbids its members from accepting non JW literature. Makes it difficult to witness to them one on one as they foist all their material on us

The late Walter Martin had a method that he claimed worked very well. When the JWs came to his door, he would insist on leading a prayer prior to any discussion. Before they even knew what was happening, in the prayer, he actually shared the gospel of Jesus Christ.

[Jim_Alaska 2,341]

I put JW's in the category of a cult. Cults always have distinguishing marks that are dependent on what they believe. For instance, cults always hold to beliefs that are drastically different from what  real Christians have held to for centuries. These differences are things such as; the deity of Christ; the Trinity; the Holy Spirit as a real person;  The  KJV as the Word of God.

But probably the most telling indication of a cult for me is their refusal to use traditional word usage, and having to invent their own peculiar language or words. The JW's are good at this and take great satisfaction in changing the meanings of words and phrases. This is a tactic to confuse the meanings of real words and add to the mind control tactics of the JW governing body.

I'll try to list a few words and phrases that they use that are drastically different from traditional Christianity.

talk = sermon

faithful and discreet slave = first this was their founder Charles Taz Russel, upon his death it became Judge Rutherford upon his death it then became the governing body. Faithful and discreet slave terminology is based on this scripture:  Lu 12:42 And the Lord said, Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom his lord shall make ruler over his household, to give them their portion of meat in due season?

witness = any time thy see the word witness in scripture they insist that this means Jehovah's Witnesses. This is how they supposedly date their origins back to Apostolic times.

Kingdom Hall = Church.  You will never hear them refer to their Kingdom Hall as a church.

Bible study = actually a study from prepared literature provided to every Kingdom Hall for every service.

These are just a few, i am pressed for time this morning so will end with this observation. In recent times they have made use of computer graphics and actual produced movies.in their study and presentations in their services. A nominal JW will not study the actual bible, but will always turn to the JW website to watch these movies about books of the bible. Other presentations are of a graphical nature, such as cartoon type lessons on certain people, books and subjects.

Edited October 10, 2017 by Jim_Alaska

[robycop3 2]

  The local JWs useta come to my door about every 2 months, and I always welcomed them, told them I'd listen to their spiel, LONG AS THEY GAVE ME EQUAL TIME. Once they were inside, I did as I said, but made sure to stand near my door. {I'm a fairly big dude, & they couldn't push by me easily.) I began by asking them, WHOM DO YOU SAY JESUS CHRIST IS?" Occasionally, one would respond, "the archangel Michael." "Oh, REALLY? Do you have any SCRIPTURAL SUPPORT for that?" They du-h-hd around & couldn't answer. And I pointed out the origin of THEIR "bible"- in 1950, Freddie Franz(who later became the watchtower's big kahoona) & his buddy, a Greek Cypriot named George Gangas, sat down with the British RV of 1881 & re-worded it to fit JW doctrine.It's not a "translation" at all! And, in a Scottish courtroom, Franz admitted that neither he nor Gangas knew any Hebrew & very little KOINE Greek.

   I've not had any visits from them for about 3 years now.

One incident that REALLY turned me against them was, in 2000, my wife was critically injured in a schoolbus rollover, suffering extensive internal injuries. It was only by GOD'S will & power that she lived! Several days after the accident, when we still didn't know if she was gonna live, I was walking our dog when a JW pulled up beside me in his car & said, "Do you know what a sinner you are by allowing your unconscious wife to receive blood?" WRONG THING TO SAY TO ME ! ! He saw my face as I was securing the dog's leash to a guy wire & guessed my intent was to yank him outta his car & pound him into the pavement. (He was right.) & he sped off. A coupla days later, one of his cohorts phoned me to apologize for his actions, & I said, "I want nothing to do with you or your cult unless you wanna hear the REAL Gospel of Jesus".  When my wife was better, I studied the Jabroney False Witless cult to learn all I could about it & how to counter it thru the Bible.

 

  I've seen several people in my 'hood leave that cult. I dunno if I had any influrnce on them or not; I just PRAISE GOD for freeing them.

[robycop3 2]

  Lately, the jabroney False Witlesses have been setting up easels in public places, holding theit tracts & pampllets, with at least two people attending them. They simply greet everyone who passes. Usually, if I pass them, I return the greeting & say "JESUS is Lord, not the watchtower dudes!" They simply smile.

Maybe I'm speaking in vain, but who knows what the HOLY SPIRIT may choose to do?

[Invicta 1,553]

  When we used to foster children, we had two lads from a JW background.  Social services told us the mother was a devout JW, but   I was told by someone that she had been disfellowshipped..  We were told that we could not take them to church,.  In such cases my wife and took turns to attend services.  On the first Sunday, the elder said "can we come to church with you?"  We didn't have them for very long  but they came with us to church each Sunday they were there.

[robycop3 2]

  I hadn't paid much attention to the Jabroney False Witlesses til my wife was almost killed in a schoolbus rollover late in 2000. While she was still on the very-critical list in ICU, a man saw me walking our dog & hailed me; I said sorry, I already had an attorney. He said he wasn't a lawyer, but was from the JW kingdom hall down the street & asked me if I knew what a sin it was to have allowed my wife to have received blood transfusions. That was NOT what I wanted to hear at that time; he saw me tying my dog's leash to a guy wire & figured he'd better skeedaddle. Luckily he did, for I'm not a small feller & I fully intended to yank him outta his car window & let him eat some pavement.

  Next day, he called me to apologize. While I'd cooled down, my wife's survival was still questionable, & I told him I wasn't interested in his cult, &, as a former cop I was gonna use my connections to find out how they'd gotten my wife's medical info, and I would sue anyone who'd broken the law to have done so. He immediately said 'bye & hung up. (I found out  that a friend's friend who was a JW had heard it from a friend whom I'd told. I didn't take any legal action, as it ended there.)

  To keep a long story short, my wife survived, making about an 80% recovery. (One of the 2 actual miracles I've seen!  Most of her internal organs were injured with severe internal bleeding. Only GOD'S POWER kept her alive! She has COPD as a result of both lungs being punctured.) When I had time, I began to research the JW cult.

  Their "bible", the New World translation, was made in 1950 by Freddie Franz, who later became big kahoona of the watchtower, & his sidekick George Gangas, a Greek Cypriot. Neither of them knew any Hebrew or Aramaic, & Gangas knew SOME Koine Greek. Their "translation" was made from the British "Revised Version", a groddy version which wasn't too well-known in the USA. They changed the RV where necessary to make it fit JW doctrine; it's not another translation at all!

  Nowhere in a LEGITIMATE  Bible version is there any prohibitions against blood transfusions; the prohibition is against EATING OR DRINKING blood. BIG DIFFERENCE!

  They assert Jesus is the archangel Michael! here's what they say:

Quote

  “Scriptural evidence indicates that the name Michael applied to God’s Son before he left heaven to become Jesus Christ and also after his return” (

Aid to Bible Understanding, Watchtower Bible & Tract Society, 1971, 1152).

Evidently, they missed Hebrews 1:5, For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?

THE NWT IS WORDED SIMILARLY! THEY DON'T BELIEVE THEIR OWN BIBLE VERSION ! !

  They don't believe Jesus died on a cross because the Greek word translated "cross" in the KJV & most other English versions is "stauros", which is often used for "a pointed, upright stake", and Scripture says in Acts 10:39 & Acts 13:29 that Jesus was hanged on a TREE.(xylos)  That shows they didn't study Greek too closely, as stauros was also used for a crucifixion cross, and about any fairly-large upright wooden structure, pole, or gallows, etc. was called a "tree".  And His cross was T-shaped, not X-shaped, as some JWs say, as Scripture says a sign was placed ABOVE JESUS' HEAD ON THE CROSS. (Not to mention Roman tradition of that time period.)

   Shoot, I can post PAGES of their hooey, but I'll stop here. They don't come to my door any more, as I always welcomed them, but said, "I'll listen to your stuff if you give me equal time to present mine", & when my turn came, I'd say, "Please tell me whom do you say Jesus is." & when they finished stammering, I'd read them Scriptures from a REAL Bible telling them who Jesus is, reminding them that was the most-important fact they could ever learn. I never turned any of their "missionaries" away, as I know Jesus died for their sins as well as mine, & that they needed to hear HIS Gospel from someone.

 

In conclusion: The JW is a dangerous, deceptive, pseudo-quasi-Christian cult that only leads people to hell.
 

 

Edited April 12, 2019 by robycop3

[Invicta 1,553]

A pastor I knew, did a lot of work with the JWs, Mormons and other cults.  He said that when a JW at his door says "The Greek says." he shows them a Greek bible and says "Show me." 

[robycop3 2]

  Took me awhile to not act confrontational with them, as I have a fighter's nature. But by gaining a little confidence in them, I get them to listen to the Gospel better. (However, it takes the HOLY SPIRIT'S power to cause them to BELIEVE it!)

[robycop3 2]

  One trick they tried with me was to send an old black fella to my door who'd refereed several of my fights & had been a notable heavyweight himself til injury ended his career. They knew I held him in high esteem.

  I told him, "Mr. - - - . you're welcome in my home any time, but I'll NEVER be a JW. I am saved by the grace (unmerited favor) of JESUS CHRIST, God's Son, who is also God, and nothing can sway me from that. I'm hoping that YOU come to the same belief & realize how shallow & false the JWs are."  We talked about other things, and he didn't try to "convert " me any more. (Unfortunately, he died while still part of that cult.)

 

  The local kingdom hall closed & sold their building. There's no kingdom hall within 10 miles of my home now. They just couldn't attract enough gullible people to support their local coven.

 

  As I said, they haven't been back for about 3 years. But the Mor(m)ons have. IMHO, they're as bad a cult as the Jws are. I give them the same treatment as I do the JWs. "You preach to me, but you must gimme equal time to preach to YOU." The same "missionaries" never come back.

[Disciple.Luke 38]

On 9/21/2019 at 9:39 AM, robycop3 said:

 

The local kingdom hall closed & sold their building. There's no kingdom hall within 10 miles of my home now. They just couldn't attract enough gullible people to support their local coven.

 

 

They are closing down and selling Kingdom Halls all over the United States forcing two or three congregations to share a single Hall some where else. Of course the faithful JWs blindly believe the “reasons” for this given to them by the governing body, so they are will sacrifice for “Jehovah” in a overcrowded Kingdom Hall. To the people on the outside it’s much more obvious why they are doing this on a mass scale all over the country combining congregations and selling the other buildings. It all started after the JWs began losing lawsuits for not reporting known child abuse to law enforcement. Now the cases are coming from the endless children who were abused for years while they protected the abuser. The Watchtower is losing millions of dollars one case at a time, and they are in panic mode trying to not go bankrupt and expose themselves to be the false prophets they really are.

[robycop3 2]

  Worse yet, their apostasy keeps them lost. They believe Jesus is the archangel Michael, same as their daddy cult, the Seven-Day-Adlibbers, does.

[Disciple.Luke 38]

On 11/3/2019 at 6:20 AM, robycop3 said:

  Worse yet, their apostasy keeps them lost. They believe Jesus is the archangel Michael, same as their daddy cult, the Seven-Day-Adlibbers, does.

Jehovahs witnesses are complex, and there are just so many barriers you have to tear down to get through. The mind control of the organization is beyond belief, and is the reason most JWs have not critical thinking skills. Since the watchtower is considered the spokesman for God that means everyone who tries to tell them something that contradicts their teaching is viewed as from Satan himself.

As for Watchtower theology it is absurd and anathema. Jesus being the Archangel is one of their beliefs that will have consequences after death, but there are many more that effect and endanger them and their families lives while living. One of the more wicked beliefs is that blood transfusions are sinful. Countless men, women, and children have lost their lives too early because the Watchtower imposed this belief by ripping one versus completely out of context. Also, when they impose  shunning on family and other congregation members for small things like questioning a watchtower teaching can push the shunned member to suicide or at the very least a life of anxiety and sadness. Shunning is especially cruel for a JW since they are taught to isolate themselves from non JWs, so they have no friends or support system outside of the congregation. I believe that isolation has a deliberate and sinister reason behind the belief since it puts them in a situation where their JW friends and family are literally all they have. This isolation is further abused when the JWs are told it is forbidden for them to attend or take part in any holiday celebrations with non JW friends and family.

i follow the JWs and listen to their leaders online, and its unbelievable to me how these magazine salesmen have so much mental control of their followers. They have proven to be false prophets over and over and yet the rank file blindly follow, and will probably continue to do so until they depart this world and open their eyes to find out that hell is their reward.

Edited November 8, 2019 by Disciple.Luke

[Invicta 1,553]

I once went to a church where four ex JWs were baptised in one day.  The pastor did a lot of work amongst the cults.

[robycop3 2]

  Few years ago, had a coupla Mor(m)ons come to the door, a coupla not-so-pretty young women. I showed'em, from my anti-Mor(m)on kit, some skinny about their two big kahoonas, Joey Smith & Brigand Young. And I asked them to compare their "Joseph Smith KJV with a REAL KJV that'd been around long before Joey was. And, of course, I showed 'em the Gospel. And I advised them about some homes in my 'hood to avoid, such as my next-door neighbor, who had 5 pit bulls inside his fence, and a dope house a coupla blox away.

 

  And I said, not wanting to be a male chauvinist, but there were other places around here that young women should not go on their own. Cultists or not, I wanted no harm to come to them, and who knows whether the HOLY SPIRIT caused the Gospel to take root in them? However, I've not had a JW or Mor(m)on come to my door for a few years now.

Edited June 21, 2020 by robycop3

[No Nicolaitans 3,397]

5 hours ago, robycop3 said:

a coupla not-so-pretty young women.

Nice...

5 hours ago, robycop3 said:

Mor(m)ons

Nice...

Dude'ster, did they grow up in that smack? You gots the skinny on'em?

If they did be all raised in it n'stuff, they's don't know no better. Don't kick'em to d'curb for not know'n no better. 

5 hours ago, robycop3 said:

not wanting to be a male chauvinist,

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL! Didn't you say something about their looks?

5 hours ago, robycop3 said:

Cultists or not, I wanted no harm to come to them,

...other than your disparaging remarks about them.

 

[DaveW 4,095]

I did wonder what their apparent beauty or otherwise had to do with anything.

I sure hope looks are not a part of pleasing God because I fear that I am not too easy on the eyes myself........

[No Nicolaitans 3,397]

That's why I keep my face covered with a knight's helmet and visor...

[Salyan 1,890]

it was good of you to warn them away from dangerous locations, and has nothing to do with chauvinism.... except in this case, you're behaving that way. The comments on their looks and your play on the word Mormon are downright rude. I think the Bible has something to say about that too...

[Invicta 1,553]

Also, it is not the way to present the gospel.

[PastorMatt 1,094]

I try not to put down people that are involved in other religions/cults. Just preach Jesus to them and let the Word of God work in their hearts. I just would love to see them find the truth in the Word of God.

[Ukulelemike 3,780]

The last time I dealt with a JW, it was an older couple, friends of my wife, who, before she was saved, and some afterwards, she had done a Bible study with. Of course, it didn't take her long, even as a new believer, to figure them out, but she continued hoping to change them. They didn't change.
 

So one day they come to the farm-both quite old, his voice trembles, and I was kind and respectful to them. primarily for that reason. But when he began to speak of things I know are incorrect, I gently disagreed and showed scripture to the contrary. And he got mad, raised his voice, wouldn't hear it, and after a couple minutes they excused themselves and left. Never came back. I think his wife has since passed away and he has never been back. 

[Jim_Alaska 2,341]

Mike, if these two people were not locals, I may know who they were. I know of a JW couple who used to be from the Fall River- MacArthur area and were very well traveled in their door knocking ministry.. They have since relocated to my area, he is an Elder in the JW organization.

[robycop3 2]

  Not long ago, I went to the court house in Ironton, OH for some auto title work, & the JWs had a little stand on a busy corner near the court house, outta the way of pedestrian traffic, of course. Since it wasn't a busy corner at that time, I asked the man & woman there whom they say Jesus is. They looked at each other, & the man said, "He's the archangel Michael".  I replied, "WRONG!" & took a Bible from my pocket to show them there Scriptures:

Jude 1:9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

 

  I said to them, "So, you see, not even Michael badmouthed Satan. But see what JESUS said:"

 

John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

 

"  JESUS didn't hesitate to badmouth Satan, because He IS the Lord, but Michael dared not do so ! Think about it ! "

  They had no reply.

  I don't know if that sank into those people or not, but I tried. Perhaps the HOLY SPIRIT made the seed grow. I haven't seen either of those people since then.

Edited February 5, 2020 by robycop3

[robycop3 2]

On 12/23/2019 at 2:04 PM, Salyan said:

it was good of you to warn them away from dangerous locations, and has nothing to do with chauvinism.... except in this case, you're behaving that way. The comments on their looks and your play on the word Mormon are downright rude. I think the Bible has something to say about that too...

  I was only telling the truth. In this world, "attractive" people get more respect & attention than those who are not-so-attractive. And I have absolutely NO respect for the LDS  cult, nor for the SDA cult. They're false religions leading people to condemnation.

[No Nicolaitans 3,397]

8 hours ago, robycop3 said:

  I was only telling the truth. In this world, "attractive" people get more respect & attention than those who are not-so-attractive. And I have absolutely NO respect for the LDS  cult, nor for the SDA cult. They're false religions leading people to condemnation.

If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

[PastorMatt 1,094]

On 2/5/2020 at 2:24 AM, robycop3 said:

"  JESUS didn't hesitate to badmouth Satan, because He IS the Lord, but Michael dared not do so ! Think about it ! "

  They had no reply.

  I don't know if that sank into those people or not, but I tried. Perhaps the HOLY SPIRIT made the seed grow. I haven't seen either of those people since then.

There is a difference in telling the truth in boldness and being sarcastic/rude. Jesus was never the latter.

[robycop3 2]

7 hours ago, PastorMatt said:

There is a difference in telling the truth in boldness and being sarcastic/rude. Jesus was never the latter.

 Are you SURE? Jesus sure read the Riot Act to some Pharisees !