Members 1Timothy115 Posted December 17, 2016 Members Share Posted December 17, 2016 Have you ever heard of the 2 by 2s? I see them as a cult because of there denying Jesus Christ's deity. I perceive them as a threat to young (20s) working people. Young professionals who are seeking 'something' but have been deceived into believing they have no time for "Not forsaking the assembling of yourselves together..." I know a young working couple who have been drawn in to this. Now, beyond prayer and without offending them or alienating them how to pull them out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Jim_Alaska Posted December 17, 2016 Administrators Share Posted December 17, 2016 I have never heard of 2by2s. Consequently I have no idea regarding their doctrine. As far as "pulling them out", this is often difficult with cult people. Cults can be very crafty and persuasive. If you are not a well grounded Christian, well versed in Scripture, they will run right over you, using Scripture to prove their argument. Jehovah's Witnesses are very good at this. My only suggestion would be along the lines of taking the time to closely examine what they believe and once you are sure of your information, refute it using Scripture and prayer only. One word of caution would be to be very careful in examining what they believe. If you are not a mature, well grounded Christian it is easy to be led astray. Gal. 6:1 Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted. A second word of caution might be to make sure your attempted intervention is because of a Godly concern for their spiritual welfare, and from a heart of love on your part. To argue doctrine from a position of pride, or to simply prove a point will most likely fail. 1Timothy115 and John Young 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Invicta Posted December 17, 2016 Members Share Posted December 17, 2016 (edited) Some years ago I read an article about them, it was called The Sect Without a Name. I cannot remember much about what was said about them. I had never heard of them before, and I have never met any of them. There is an article about them here. http://www.religioustolerance.org/two-by-two-church-menu.htm#start- Edited December 17, 2016 by Invicta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Invicta Posted December 17, 2016 Members Share Posted December 17, 2016 There is a long article on the group here. http://www.tellingthetruth.info/publications_index/johnsonbenton.php Their refusal to give themselves a name is similar to the early Brethren who just said they were a group of Christians worshipping together. In a government survey of new religious groups about 1939, The budding brethren refused to give themselves a name so the governmenr commissioner recorded tem as Catholics, not Roman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1Timothy115 Posted December 17, 2016 Author Members Share Posted December 17, 2016 Thanks Jim & Invicta. Jim, I take the cautions very seriously. Yes, I've been familiarizing myself with their primary tenets. There is a lot of information about them on the web. No, I will not proceed with a goal of pride or personal gratification. I've talked it over with my pastor too and plan to meet with him and discuss the cult after Christmas. INVICTA, I visited the 2nd site you mentioned previously and they have a fact sheet which gives a breakdown of the tenets of this cult. http://www.tellingthetruth.info/home/factsheet.php The parts I have immediate problems with (be sure to note 'How They Differ... is What They Do NOT Believe)... That Jesus: came to be a perfect example, pattern minister or way-shower life is equal or more important than His death created a way to Heaven through His death; and a way on earth by his life; which is one and the same as their fellowship. HOW THEY DIFFER FROM ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN BELIEFS In What They Do NOT Believe in the Triune God in the deity of Jesus; That Jesus is God the Son in the deity of the Holy Spirit; God the Holy Spirit the Holy Spirit permanently indwells every believer in the finished work of Christ that Jesus came to be our substitute in His life and death that man is born in sin in eternal security in the priesthood of all believers conversion can take place through the written Word without human agency one can know they are saved in this lifetime salvation can be attained without going through their ministers in total reliance upon Jesus' shed blood for salvation that salvation is an unconditionally free gift of God in salvation solely by grace through faith in Jesus, not of works (i.e. Jesus' Way is their fellowship) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1Timothy115 Posted January 7, 2017 Author Members Share Posted January 7, 2017 (edited) Jim_Alaska, I like your answer familiarize, pray, compare scriptural evidence. Edited January 7, 2017 by 1Timothy115 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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