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I have heard that Trumph isn't a Globalist, or a New World Orderist, (this means he's not a puppet of the Luciferian secret societies) if this is true, then he would be the best man for the Job, if this were true and he became President, then I believe he would be the first real president since JFK.

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This is what Cruz said...and he was spot on. Trump endorses and encourages violence. 

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Here's a compilation of some of Trump's calls for violence:  http://mashable.com/2016/03/12/trump-rally-incite-violence/#8bwMrCO7Fiqz 

Alinsky-style tactics sown will be reaped.

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14 hours ago, Old-Pilgrim said:

I have heard that Trumph isn't a Globalist, or a New World Orderist, (this means he's not a puppet of the Luciferian secret societies) if this is true, then he would be the best man for the Job, if this were true and he became President, then I believe he would be the first real president since JFK.

That is exactly why the elite are pulling out all the stops to derail him. Trump speaks of America's best interests, tending to America first, rather than putting perceived best interests of globalization ahead of America's best interests.

The "new world order" crowd is feeling threatened. They know even a Trump presidency couldn't stop them, but it could slow them down and hamper them for four to eight years; longer if the public would catch on.

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1 hour ago, John81 said:

That is exactly why the elite are pulling out all the stops to derail him. Trump speaks of America's best interests, tending to America first, rather than putting perceived best interests of globalization ahead of America's best interests.

The "new world order" crowd is feeling threatened. They know even a Trump presidency couldn't stop them, but it could slow them down and hamper them for four to eight years; longer if the public would catch on.

Is Ted Cruz part of the "New World Order" crowd? If you say so, please show proof.

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Cruz has even accepted monies from David McIntosh, the president of Club for Growth.

Remember Club for Growth is pro-amnesty, and when they asked Trump for a million-dollar donation, Trump refused. So CfG spent $3.3 million in attack ads against Trump. Of course Ted Cruz has no problem accepting money from McIntosh, and why wouldn’t he, he’s for open borders. Heidi Cruz spent five years at the Council on Foreign Relations helping to write the North America Union, and that filthy sovereignty destroying piece of legislation eliminates the borders between Canada, Mexico and the United States. If Cruz becomes president, we will become just like the now failed, European Union.

http://www.newswithviews.com/Nelson/kelleigh285.htm

 

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27 minutes ago, John81 said:

Cruz has even accepted monies from David McIntosh, the president of Club for Growth.

Remember Club for Growth is pro-amnesty, and when they asked Trump for a million-dollar donation, Trump refused. So CfG spent $3.3 million in attack ads against Trump. Of course Ted Cruz has no problem accepting money from McIntosh, and why wouldn’t he, he’s for open borders. Heidi Cruz spent five years at the Council on Foreign Relations helping to write the North America Union, and that filthy sovereignty destroying piece of legislation eliminates the borders between Canada, Mexico and the United States. If Cruz becomes president, we will become just like the now failed, European Union.

http://www.newswithviews.com/Nelson/kelleigh285.htm

 

Really? He has a funny way of letting us know that.


"As President, I will stop illegal immigration, build a wall that works, triple border security, and put in place the surveillance and biometric tracking to secure the border. Border security is national security. We need to stop Obama’s amnesty and enforce the rule of law. And we need to reform legal immigration to protect American workers -- Ted Cruz"

https://www.tezcruz.org/cruz-immigration-plan/

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/15/politics/ted-cruz-immigration-legalization/

 

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Just now, heartstrings said:

Really? He has a funny way of letting us know that.


"As President, I will stop illegal immigration, build a wall that works, triple border security, and put in place the surveillance and biometric tracking to secure the border. Border security is national security. We need to stop Obama’s amnesty and enforce the rule of law. And we need to reform legal immigration to protect American workers -- Ted Cruz"

https://www.tezcruz.org/cruz-immigration-plan/

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/15/politics/ted-cruz-immigration-legalization/

 

I think it was Rubio, and maybe one or two others, who challenged Cruz on several points where he's recently changed his tune.

One conservative commentator (not a Trump supporter) pointed out that if it wasn't for Trump raising the immigration issue and finding popular opinion behind his views, none of the other candidates would have moved in that direction.

Regardless of a stated position on immigration with Mexico, if the North American Union becomes a reality, the borders will virtually cease to exist anyway.

3 minutes ago, Old-Pilgrim said:

Council on Foreign Relations are Globalists.

True.

Take the connections, follow the money and the truth is nearby.

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One thing about secret societies is that there are according to their own members some who are secret in every regard, their existence is to be kept secret, unlike Scottish Rite Masonry which is quite open with the fact of it's existence as many Masons in the uk are, as far as they have public buildings etc.

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1 minute ago, Old-Pilgrim said:

One thing about secret societies is that there are according to their own members some who are secret in every regard, their existence is to be kept secret, unlike Scottish Rite Masonry which is quite open with the fact of it's existence as many Masons in the uk are, as far as they have public buildings etc.

For most of the secret societies, their existence is known but their members tend to be quiet, secretive, even though many know their overall agenda or main goals.

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59 minutes ago, John81 said:

For most of the secret societies, their existence is known but their members tend to be quiet, secretive, even though many know their overall agenda or main goals.

Over here there are very few people who will engage in a conversation on the topic. It is a taboo topic in churches in the most part. As far as non christian friends, usually when I bring it up, it is like hitting a pause button, you don't even get a joke or a comment. I think Britain is more steeped in Masonary and infiltrated with Jesuitism than America. I was on a business course once and I made a joke about Masonry, on brake I was warned by the Tutor that criticizing Masonry is a sure way to fail in business. I can only think of one Mason whom I know, but I am sure there is many more members of something or other of the secretive nature. One Christian I spoke to on the topic said that perhaps the reason that it is nearly never mentioned from any pulpit is that it is understood that Masonry is incompatible with Christianity, and yet Charles G. Finney's testimony was that he grew up in a christian Church and never heard a single warning about Freemasonry, otherwise he would not have joined them when he grew up, he came out and published a warning. Most non Christian conversation these days needs to be about TV Movies or Sport, as far as anything which has been on the news, it is usually too touchy to discuss much.

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Donald Trump is not in this for anybody but Donald Trump - as in every aspect of his life. As far as Trump "raising the issue" on immigration and being the only one to address it, that is a stone cold lie. Cruz is on record as far back at least as 2011 in favor of a wall and completely against illegal immigration - while Trump was financing the folks who want amnesty. Trump favors what has long been known as touchback amnesty - "deport" the illegals and then let them come back as soon as they reach home. That is, in the long run, no difference from just outright amnesty. Well, except that touchback would cost the taxpayers way more money...

I really like how my posts on the truth about the Cruz' and the CFR and the NAU are being ignored in favor of trying to paint Trump as non-globalist. The man has shipped many of his OWN companies overseas and made excuses for it. He has financed those who push things like the NAU. But let's ignore that and spread rumors - rumors that have been proven false - instead.  

To read ANY Christian supporting anything about the most ungodly candidate to come along in years is not only disheartening, it certainly provides insight into why this country is in such a mess.

"What I can’t get my head around is how other people can listen to this stuff [DT's speeches or whatever] and hear something substantive or serious. I truly don’t understand it. Or maybe I do understand it, and I just don’t want to because I don’t like what it might say about a lot of people I respect." ~Jonah Goldberg

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2 hours ago, Old-Pilgrim said:

Over here there are very few people who will engage in a conversation on the topic. It is a taboo topic in churches in the most part. As far as non christian friends, usually when I bring it up, it is like hitting a pause button, you don't even get a joke or a comment. I think Britain is more steeped in Masonary and infiltrated with Jesuitism than America. I was on a business course once and I made a joke about Masonry, on brake I was warned by the Tutor that criticizing Masonry is a sure way to fail in business. I can only think of one Mason whom I know, but I am sure there is many more members of something or other of the secretive nature. One Christian I spoke to on the topic said that perhaps the reason that it is nearly never mentioned from any pulpit is that it is understood that Masonry is incompatible with Christianity, and yet Charles G. Finney's testimony was that he grew up in a christian Church and never heard a single warning about Freemasonry, otherwise he would not have joined them when he grew up, he came out and published a warning. Most non Christian conversation these days needs to be about TV Movies or Sport, as far as anything which has been on the news, it is usually too touchy to discuss much.

In some parts of America the Masons are very connected, even in many churches. Some smaller towns are virtually run by the Masons. One town in Kentucky I'm familiar with the membership in the Masons lodge and Baptist church are almost identical. The main businesses in town are all owned by Masons. The local police is mostly Mason.

The conversations most Christians around here have are little different than those of the non-church goers. Superficial political talk, more about TV and sports which they can often go into detail about.

I've actually had Christians tell me I don't need to talk about things related to Jesus and the Bible so much. They tell me there is more to life than that. How sad.

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Cruz advisors from the new world order crowd, and more have been added to his campaign since this article was written.

Thursday, 15 October 2015

Ted Cruz's Closest Counselors Are Neocons

There’s a lot about Ted Cruz that should worry constitutionalists considering voting for the senator in the presidential election of 2016.

Recently, Infogram published brief but illuminating biographies of several of Cruz’s key foreign policy advisors. The information disclosed in these revelations could trouble many constitutionalists otherwise keen on the senator and who rely on him to restore the rule of law to the White House.

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1 hour ago, John81 said:

In some parts of America the Masons are very connected, even in many churches. Some smaller towns are virtually run by the Masons. One town in Kentucky I'm familiar with the membership in the Masons lodge and Baptist church are almost identical. The main businesses in town are all owned by Masons. The local police is mostly Mason.

The conversations most Christians around here have are little different than those of the non-church goers. Superficial political talk, more about TV and sports which they can often go into detail about.

I've actually had Christians tell me I don't need to talk about things related to Jesus and the Bible so much. They tell me there is more to life than that. How sad.

Is Ted Cruz a Mason?

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43 minutes ago, heartstrings said:

Is Ted Cruz a Mason?

I have seen some things written which says he is but whether that's true or not I don't know.

My references to Masons in the post you quoted was in response to another posting referring to secret societies.

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My support is for Cruz however, Trump talking to his audience about thumping protestors or torturing bad guys is fine with me.  Lots of folks need a whippin' for their bad behavior.  In the old days when some knucklehead broke the law, they might get a good drubbin' from the police and sent home to nurse a bruise or two and their pride at no additional cost to the taxpayers.  I don't think that can be done anymore.

As for the torture, water boarding is not torture, it leaves no permanent physical injury.  During the Battle of the Bulge, my boss and a couple of his comrades were told to go out and capture some Krauts for intelligence.  So they went out behind the lines, killed a couple and brought two back for interrogation.  When they wouldn't talk, they were stripped nekked and strapped to the hood of a jeep and drove around 'til blue and willing to talk.  War is hell and it's not for women, sissies and lawyers.

Look, these liberals are a violent sort, they'll easily resort to terrorism.  Someday soon it's going to be past time to put them down, might as well start now and rid our country of them from political power.  Let them ask if we want fries with that and wash dishes but don't trust them with matters of the state.

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2 hours ago, heartstrings said:

Yes, you've been implying that Cruz had connections with such dark forces. So I asked.

I don't know if the Masons are "dark forces" but I've not implied Cruz is one.

The "dark forces" Cruz is connected with are neo-con architects of globalization which will lead to the new world order of one world government. He's not the only one, most national politicians are involved in this.

2 hours ago, swathdiver said:

My support is for Cruz however, Trump talking to his audience about thumping protestors or torturing bad guys is fine with me.  Lots of folks need a whippin' for their bad behavior.  In the old days when some knucklehead broke the law, they might get a good drubbin' from the police and sent home to nurse a bruise or two and their pride at no additional cost to the taxpayers.  I don't think that can be done anymore.

As for the torture, water boarding is not torture, it leaves no permanent physical injury.  During the Battle of the Bulge, my boss and a couple of his comrades were told to go out and capture some Krauts for intelligence.  So they went out behind the lines, killed a couple and brought two back for interrogation.  When they wouldn't talk, they were stripped nekked and strapped to the hood of a jeep and drove around 'til blue and willing to talk.  War is hell and it's not for women, sissies and lawyers.

Look, these liberals are a violent sort, they'll easily resort to terrorism.  Someday soon it's going to be past time to put them down, might as well start now and rid our country of them from political power.  Let them ask if we want fries with that and wash dishes but don't trust them with matters of the state.

This post should be nominated as one of the best posts of the week! :goodpost:

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16 hours ago, swathdiver said:

My support is for Cruz however, Trump talking to his audience about thumping protestors or torturing bad guys is fine with me.  Lots of folks need a whippin' for their bad behavior.  In the old days when some knucklehead broke the law, they might get a good drubbin' from the police and sent home to nurse a bruise or two and their pride at no additional cost to the taxpayers.  I don't think that can be done anymore.

A bit like Hitler and his SA I suppose?

16 hours ago, swathdiver said:

As for the torture, water boarding is not torture, it leaves no permanent physical injury.  During the Battle of the Bulge, my boss and a couple of his comrades were told to go out and capture some Krauts for intelligence.  So they went out behind the lines, killed a couple and brought two back for interrogation.  When they wouldn't talk, they were stripped nekked and strapped to the hood of a jeep and drove around 'til blue and willing to talk.  War is hell and it's not for women, sissies and lawyers.

I think if you were given water boarding you might think differently.

Look, these liberals are a violent sort, they'll easily resort to terrorism.  Someday soon it's going to be past time to put them down, might as well start now and rid our country of them from political power.  Let them ask if we want fries with that and wash dishes but don't trust them with matters of the state.  Just like Hitler

 

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No Invicta, not like Hitler at all.  Though America's Democratic Party is very much like the old National Socialist Workers Party and all the other mass murdering political parties in history.  Their ideologies are essentially the same.

The Brownshirts were created to physically thump the political opposition.  A great many of them were sodomites and once Adolf was appointed Chancellor he had a great many of them murdered and they were replaced by the SS.

Nope, I've been waterboarded and while it feels like drowning, (done that for real too), it leaves no lasting physical injuries.

On yesterday's news I saw the Communist, Hillary Clinton and the Socialist Bernie Sanders decrying Trump's comments on violence against protesters.  It was not lost on me that these are the very same people which support the most violent violence against the most innocent among us, the wanton and selfish murder of unborn children through dismemberment and chemical attack.  Trump talks about thumping some idiots and Hillary and Bernie and their millions of supporters are proud supporters of infanticide!  60+ million and counting!  When will we rise up and STOP it?      

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Although I'm not a Donald Trump supporter, I do support the idea of closing the borders and ports to Muslim immigrants simply because of the acts they commit because of their hostile ideology. Race has nothing to do with it. I'm fine with people who truly want to come here and enjoy our freedoms instead of trying to kill us.

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No. Ted is not a Mason. Nutcases have cried that he is because he, gasp!, put his hand in his jacket when he pledged. Oh, the horrors. But, sorry - a true mason would have put his hand inside his shirt. And he would do it EVERY time he pledged, not just a few times. The only ones who have put out the idea of Ted being a mason are those who see masons under every rock.  MASONS, on the other hand, know that he is not. And have said so. 

Sigh...John, if you're going to post information, could you use a credible source instead of one that is known to attack conservatism?  Yes, Ted has some advisers that were in other administrations. What a shock. Having been in previous administrations does not preclude being a good adviser. Trump's choice of Richard Haase is not a problem?  A wee bit worse than any of those helping Cruz' campaign...Regarding Trump's violent rhetoric: first: just how many of you who favor it would still be in favor of it were it BO calling for punching protesters in the face? Probably none of you. At least I hope not. How, then, is it ok for Trump to do so. Second: how many of you know that inciting to riot is illegal? 

Did you know that under federal law, it can be considered a riot if there is an act of violence involving ONE or more persons when there is an assembly of at least three people? Because presidential candidates are running for a federal office, their rallies would fall under federal jurisdiction regarding riot laws. So...the feds would  be completely in line with the law to arrest that old man who attacked a protester as the protester simply WALKED BY him...and then said later he should kill him next time. They were at a DT rally. The old man is a DT acolyte (and DT is considering paying the guy's legal fees). 

The definition goes on to talk about inciting a riot: 

 Inciting a riot applies to a person who organizes, encourages, or participates in a riot. It can apply to one who urges or instigates others to riot. According to 18 USCS § 2102 "to incite a riot", or "to organize, promote, encourage, participate in, or carry on a riot", includes, but is not limited to, urging or instigating other persons to riot, but shall not be deemed to mean the mere oral or written (1) advocacy of ideas or (2) expression of belief, not involving advocacy of any act or acts of violence or assertion of the rightness of, or the right to commit, any such act or act

Trump most definitely advocates acts of violence. He is guilty of inciting to riot. Ask yourself WHY he hasn't been stopped? Trump is an establishment tool. There is nothing that is good about what he encourages folks to do. Nothing.

BTW -- any of Trump's policies that are constitutional are not original with him. 

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2 hours ago, swathdiver said:

No Invicta, not like Hitler at all.  Though America's Democratic Party is very much like the old National Socialist Workers Party and all the other mass murdering political parties in history.  Their ideologies are essentially the same.

The Brownshirts were created to physically thump the political opposition.  A great many of them were sodomites and once Adolf was appointed Chancellor he had a great many of them murdered and they were replaced by the SS.

Nope, I've been waterboarded and while it feels like drowning, (done that for real too), it leaves no lasting physical injuries.

On yesterday's news I saw the Communist, Hillary Clinton and the Socialist Bernie Sanders decrying Trump's comments on violence against protesters.  It was not lost on me that these are the very same people which support the most violent violence against the most innocent among us, the wanton and selfish murder of unborn children through dismemberment and chemical attack.  Trump talks about thumping some idiots and Hillary and Bernie and their millions of supporters are proud supporters of infanticide!  60+ million and counting!  When will we rise up and STOP it?      

I see it very much like Hitler who started by thumping the communist opposition who then thumped back then they both had private armies fighting each other.  If one side thumps the other, it encourages the other to respond in a similar fashion.  You seem to support lynch law. You need to come oot of the wild west.

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Masonry is a dark force, most of their members are somewhat deceived, which is sad.

http://www.cuttingedge.org/free11.html

I believe that to be a reliable source.  But Masonry isn't the only secret Society, Jesuit have secret orders within their outer organization,  The Jesuit Oath is worse than any Masonic oaths which I have ever read. And I have never known of any Jesuit admitting to haven taken such an oath, other than Alberto Rivera who claimed to be an ex Jesuit. It used to be believed that the Jesuits secretly run Freemasonry in the America. This looks similar to the Jesuit oath I read before. http://libertyforlife.com/religion/jesuit_oath_of_office.htm

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