Members Old-Pilgrim Posted March 13, 2016 Members Share Posted March 13, 2016 59 minutes ago, John81 said: For most of the secret societies, their existence is known but their members tend to be quiet, secretive, even though many know their overall agenda or main goals. Over here there are very few people who will engage in a conversation on the topic. It is a taboo topic in churches in the most part. As far as non christian friends, usually when I bring it up, it is like hitting a pause button, you don't even get a joke or a comment. I think Britain is more steeped in Masonary and infiltrated with Jesuitism than America. I was on a business course once and I made a joke about Masonry, on brake I was warned by the Tutor that criticizing Masonry is a sure way to fail in business. I can only think of one Mason whom I know, but I am sure there is many more members of something or other of the secretive nature. One Christian I spoke to on the topic said that perhaps the reason that it is nearly never mentioned from any pulpit is that it is understood that Masonry is incompatible with Christianity, and yet Charles G. Finney's testimony was that he grew up in a christian Church and never heard a single warning about Freemasonry, otherwise he would not have joined them when he grew up, he came out and published a warning. Most non Christian conversation these days needs to be about TV Movies or Sport, as far as anything which has been on the news, it is usually too touchy to discuss much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators HappyChristian Posted March 13, 2016 Administrators Share Posted March 13, 2016 Donald Trump is not in this for anybody but Donald Trump - as in every aspect of his life. As far as Trump "raising the issue" on immigration and being the only one to address it, that is a stone cold lie. Cruz is on record as far back at least as 2011 in favor of a wall and completely against illegal immigration - while Trump was financing the folks who want amnesty. Trump favors what has long been known as touchback amnesty - "deport" the illegals and then let them come back as soon as they reach home. That is, in the long run, no difference from just outright amnesty. Well, except that touchback would cost the taxpayers way more money... I really like how my posts on the truth about the Cruz' and the CFR and the NAU are being ignored in favor of trying to paint Trump as non-globalist. The man has shipped many of his OWN companies overseas and made excuses for it. He has financed those who push things like the NAU. But let's ignore that and spread rumors - rumors that have been proven false - instead.  To read ANY Christian supporting anything about the most ungodly candidate to come along in years is not only disheartening, it certainly provides insight into why this country is in such a mess. "What I can’t get my head around is how other people can listen to this stuff [DT's speeches or whatever] and hear something substantive or serious. I truly don’t understand it. Or maybe I do understand it, and I just don’t want to because I don’t like what it might say about a lot of people I respect." ~Jonah Goldberg John Young and heartstrings 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John81 Posted March 13, 2016 Members Share Posted March 13, 2016 2 hours ago, Old-Pilgrim said: Over here there are very few people who will engage in a conversation on the topic. It is a taboo topic in churches in the most part. As far as non christian friends, usually when I bring it up, it is like hitting a pause button, you don't even get a joke or a comment. I think Britain is more steeped in Masonary and infiltrated with Jesuitism than America. I was on a business course once and I made a joke about Masonry, on brake I was warned by the Tutor that criticizing Masonry is a sure way to fail in business. I can only think of one Mason whom I know, but I am sure there is many more members of something or other of the secretive nature. One Christian I spoke to on the topic said that perhaps the reason that it is nearly never mentioned from any pulpit is that it is understood that Masonry is incompatible with Christianity, and yet Charles G. Finney's testimony was that he grew up in a christian Church and never heard a single warning about Freemasonry, otherwise he would not have joined them when he grew up, he came out and published a warning. Most non Christian conversation these days needs to be about TV Movies or Sport, as far as anything which has been on the news, it is usually too touchy to discuss much. In some parts of America the Masons are very connected, even in many churches. Some smaller towns are virtually run by the Masons. One town in Kentucky I'm familiar with the membership in the Masons lodge and Baptist church are almost identical. The main businesses in town are all owned by Masons. The local police is mostly Mason. The conversations most Christians around here have are little different than those of the non-church goers. Superficial political talk, more about TV and sports which they can often go into detail about. I've actually had Christians tell me I don't need to talk about things related to Jesus and the Bible so much. They tell me there is more to life than that. How sad. Old-Pilgrim 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John81 Posted March 13, 2016 Members Share Posted March 13, 2016 Cruz advisors from the new world order crowd, and more have been added to his campaign since this article was written. Thursday, 15 October 2015 Ted Cruz's Closest Counselors Are Neocons There’s a lot about Ted Cruz that should worry constitutionalists considering voting for the senator in the presidential election of 2016. Recently, Infogram published brief but illuminating biographies of several of Cruz’s key foreign policy advisors. The information disclosed in these revelations could trouble many constitutionalists otherwise keen on the senator and who rely on him to restore the rule of law to the White House. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members heartstrings Posted March 13, 2016 Members Share Posted March 13, 2016 1 hour ago, John81 said: In some parts of America the Masons are very connected, even in many churches. Some smaller towns are virtually run by the Masons. One town in Kentucky I'm familiar with the membership in the Masons lodge and Baptist church are almost identical. The main businesses in town are all owned by Masons. The local police is mostly Mason. The conversations most Christians around here have are little different than those of the non-church goers. Superficial political talk, more about TV and sports which they can often go into detail about. I've actually had Christians tell me I don't need to talk about things related to Jesus and the Bible so much. They tell me there is more to life than that. How sad. Is Ted Cruz a Mason? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John81 Posted March 14, 2016 Members Share Posted March 14, 2016 43 minutes ago, heartstrings said: Is Ted Cruz a Mason? I have seen some things written which says he is but whether that's true or not I don't know. My references to Masons in the post you quoted was in response to another posting referring to secret societies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members heartstrings Posted March 14, 2016 Members Share Posted March 14, 2016 Yes, you've been implying that Cruz had connections with such dark forces. So I asked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members swathdiver Posted March 14, 2016 Members Share Posted March 14, 2016 My support is for Cruz however, Trump talking to his audience about thumping protestors or torturing bad guys is fine with me.  Lots of folks need a whippin' for their bad behavior.  In the old days when some knucklehead broke the law, they might get a good drubbin' from the police and sent home to nurse a bruise or two and their pride at no additional cost to the taxpayers.  I don't think that can be done anymore. As for the torture, water boarding is not torture, it leaves no permanent physical injury.  During the Battle of the Bulge, my boss and a couple of his comrades were told to go out and capture some Krauts for intelligence.  So they went out behind the lines, killed a couple and brought two back for interrogation.  When they wouldn't talk, they were stripped nekked and strapped to the hood of a jeep and drove around 'til blue and willing to talk.  War is hell and it's not for women, sissies and lawyers. Look, these liberals are a violent sort, they'll easily resort to terrorism.  Someday soon it's going to be past time to put them down, might as well start now and rid our country of them from political power.  Let them ask if we want fries with that and wash dishes but don't trust them with matters of the state. HappyChristian, John81, No Nicolaitans and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John81 Posted March 14, 2016 Members Share Posted March 14, 2016 2 hours ago, heartstrings said: Yes, you've been implying that Cruz had connections with such dark forces. So I asked. I don't know if the Masons are "dark forces" but I've not implied Cruz is one. The "dark forces" Cruz is connected with are neo-con architects of globalization which will lead to the new world order of one world government. He's not the only one, most national politicians are involved in this. 2 hours ago, swathdiver said: My support is for Cruz however, Trump talking to his audience about thumping protestors or torturing bad guys is fine with me.  Lots of folks need a whippin' for their bad behavior.  In the old days when some knucklehead broke the law, they might get a good drubbin' from the police and sent home to nurse a bruise or two and their pride at no additional cost to the taxpayers.  I don't think that can be done anymore. As for the torture, water boarding is not torture, it leaves no permanent physical injury.  During the Battle of the Bulge, my boss and a couple of his comrades were told to go out and capture some Krauts for intelligence.  So they went out behind the lines, killed a couple and brought two back for interrogation.  When they wouldn't talk, they were stripped nekked and strapped to the hood of a jeep and drove around 'til blue and willing to talk.  War is hell and it's not for women, sissies and lawyers. Look, these liberals are a violent sort, they'll easily resort to terrorism.  Someday soon it's going to be past time to put them down, might as well start now and rid our country of them from political power.  Let them ask if we want fries with that and wash dishes but don't trust them with matters of the state. This post should be nominated as one of the best posts of the week! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Invicta Posted March 14, 2016 Members Share Posted March 14, 2016 16 hours ago, swathdiver said: My support is for Cruz however, Trump talking to his audience about thumping protestors or torturing bad guys is fine with me.  Lots of folks need a whippin' for their bad behavior.  In the old days when some knucklehead broke the law, they might get a good drubbin' from the police and sent home to nurse a bruise or two and their pride at no additional cost to the taxpayers.  I don't think that can be done anymore. A bit like Hitler and his SA I suppose? 16 hours ago, swathdiver said: As for the torture, water boarding is not torture, it leaves no permanent physical injury.  During the Battle of the Bulge, my boss and a couple of his comrades were told to go out and capture some Krauts for intelligence.  So they went out behind the lines, killed a couple and brought two back for interrogation.  When they wouldn't talk, they were stripped nekked and strapped to the hood of a jeep and drove around 'til blue and willing to talk.  War is hell and it's not for women, sissies and lawyers. I think if you were given water boarding you might think differently. Look, these liberals are a violent sort, they'll easily resort to terrorism.  Someday soon it's going to be past time to put them down, might as well start now and rid our country of them from political power.  Let them ask if we want fries with that and wash dishes but don't trust them with matters of the state.  Just like Hitler  John Young 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members swathdiver Posted March 14, 2016 Members Share Posted March 14, 2016 No Invicta, not like Hitler at all.  Though America's Democratic Party is very much like the old National Socialist Workers Party and all the other mass murdering political parties in history.  Their ideologies are essentially the same. The Brownshirts were created to physically thump the political opposition.  A great many of them were sodomites and once Adolf was appointed Chancellor he had a great many of them murdered and they were replaced by the SS. Nope, I've been waterboarded and while it feels like drowning, (done that for real too), it leaves no lasting physical injuries. On yesterday's news I saw the Communist, Hillary Clinton and the Socialist Bernie Sanders decrying Trump's comments on violence against protesters.  It was not lost on me that these are the very same people which support the most violent violence against the most innocent among us, the wanton and selfish murder of unborn children through dismemberment and chemical attack.  Trump talks about thumping some idiots and Hillary and Bernie and their millions of supporters are proud supporters of infanticide!  60+ million and counting!  When will we rise up and STOP it?      heartstrings 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members heartstrings Posted March 14, 2016 Members Share Posted March 14, 2016 Although I'm not a Donald Trump supporter, I do support the idea of closing the borders and ports to Muslim immigrants simply because of the acts they commit because of their hostile ideology. Race has nothing to do with it. I'm fine with people who truly want to come here and enjoy our freedoms instead of trying to kill us. John Young 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators HappyChristian Posted March 14, 2016 Administrators Share Posted March 14, 2016 No. Ted is not a Mason. Nutcases have cried that he is because he, gasp!, put his hand in his jacket when he pledged. Oh, the horrors. But, sorry - a true mason would have put his hand inside his shirt. And he would do it EVERY time he pledged, not just a few times. The only ones who have put out the idea of Ted being a mason are those who see masons under every rock.  MASONS, on the other hand, know that he is not. And have said so. Sigh...John, if you're going to post information, could you use a credible source instead of one that is known to attack conservatism?  Yes, Ted has some advisers that were in other administrations. What a shock. Having been in previous administrations does not preclude being a good adviser. Trump's choice of Richard Haase is not a problem?  A wee bit worse than any of those helping Cruz' campaign...Regarding Trump's violent rhetoric: first: just how many of you who favor it would still be in favor of it were it BO calling for punching protesters in the face? Probably none of you. At least I hope not. How, then, is it ok for Trump to do so. Second: how many of you know that inciting to riot is illegal? Did you know that under federal law, it can be considered a riot if there is an act of violence involving ONE or more persons when there is an assembly of at least three people? Because presidential candidates are running for a federal office, their rallies would fall under federal jurisdiction regarding riot laws. So...the feds would  be completely in line with the law to arrest that old man who attacked a protester as the protester simply WALKED BY him...and then said later he should kill him next time. They were at a DT rally. The old man is a DT acolyte (and DT is considering paying the guy's legal fees). The definition goes on to talk about inciting a riot:  Inciting a riot applies to a person who organizes, encourages, or participates in a riot. It can apply to one who urges or instigates others to riot. According to 18 USCS § 2102 "to incite a riot", or "to organize, promote, encourage, participate in, or carry on a riot", includes, but is not limited to, urging or instigating other persons to riot, but shall not be deemed to mean the mere oral or written (1) advocacy of ideas or (2) expression of belief, not involving advocacy of any act or acts of violence or assertion of the rightness of, or the right to commit, any such act or act Trump most definitely advocates acts of violence. He is guilty of inciting to riot. Ask yourself WHY he hasn't been stopped? Trump is an establishment tool. There is nothing that is good about what he encourages folks to do. Nothing. BTW -- any of Trump's policies that are constitutional are not original with him. Invicta, heartstrings and John Young 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Invicta Posted March 14, 2016 Members Share Posted March 14, 2016 2 hours ago, swathdiver said: No Invicta, not like Hitler at all.  Though America's Democratic Party is very much like the old National Socialist Workers Party and all the other mass murdering political parties in history.  Their ideologies are essentially the same. The Brownshirts were created to physically thump the political opposition.  A great many of them were sodomites and once Adolf was appointed Chancellor he had a great many of them murdered and they were replaced by the SS. Nope, I've been waterboarded and while it feels like drowning, (done that for real too), it leaves no lasting physical injuries. On yesterday's news I saw the Communist, Hillary Clinton and the Socialist Bernie Sanders decrying Trump's comments on violence against protesters.  It was not lost on me that these are the very same people which support the most violent violence against the most innocent among us, the wanton and selfish murder of unborn children through dismemberment and chemical attack.  Trump talks about thumping some idiots and Hillary and Bernie and their millions of supporters are proud supporters of infanticide!  60+ million and counting!  When will we rise up and STOP it?      I see it very much like Hitler who started by thumping the communist opposition who then thumped back then they both had private armies fighting each other.  If one side thumps the other, it encourages the other to respond in a similar fashion.  You seem to support lynch law. You need to come oot of the wild west. John Young 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Old-Pilgrim Posted March 14, 2016 Members Share Posted March 14, 2016 Masonry is a dark force, most of their members are somewhat deceived, which is sad. http://www.cuttingedge.org/free11.html I believe that to be a reliable source. But Masonry isn't the only secret Society, Jesuit have secret orders within their outer organization, The Jesuit Oath is worse than any Masonic oaths which I have ever read. And I have never known of any Jesuit admitting to haven taken such an oath, other than Alberto Rivera who claimed to be an ex Jesuit. It used to be believed that the Jesuits secretly run Freemasonry in the America. This looks similar to the Jesuit oath I read before. http://libertyforlife.com/religion/jesuit_oath_of_office.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.