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Why are Christians voting for Donald Trump?


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3 hours ago, 1Timothy115 said:

Job 36:3  

 

 

 

 

I will fetch my knowledge from afar, and will ascribe righteousness to my Maker.

 

 

 

 

Isaiah 64:6  

 

 

 

 

But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.

 

 

1 Samuel 16:7   But the LORD said unto Samuel, Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the LORD seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the LORD looketh on the heart.

 

 

  2 Corinthians 10:7   Do ye look on things after the outward appearance? If any man trust to himself that he is Christ's, let him of himself think this again, that, as he is Christ's, even so are we Christ's.

 

 

Someone's appearance is the last thing I evaluate when determining their character. I look at past deeds even more than the things they are saying now: I want to know their track record. So, with political candidates, on key thing I look at is their VOTING records if they have been a legislator because one good way to "see" a man;s heart is to look at his fruits. Ted Cruz has a very good voting record. And although I'm not much of a judge on the looks of GUYS, Ted seems to have the "outward appearance" of one of the Munsters. But I promise not to hold that against him. :) 

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Past deeds and voting records are important to look at but only tell a partial picture. Many politicians pad their voting resume by voting for things they know will get them votes from their constituents but which they know has no chance of passing. It can look brave to be one of the few voting for or against what the majority are voting otherwise on when in reality that candidate agrees with the majority vote but needs to appear otherwise.

Men change their positions and viewpoints often. Ronald Reagan spent most of his life as a Democrat but changed to Republican. Some who used to be pro-life are now pro-abortion and vice-versa. Some engage in years of pre-marital sex but eventually marry and are faithful. Some are solid spouses for decades and then they delve into adultery.

Some of us were once vile sinners but are now repentant and saved.

I know a woman who from her teens to her early 30s was a heavy drinker and sexual sinner. She met a man who actually cared for her, not what he could get from her, married him, gave up the booze and has been a faithful wife to him for over two decades.

As Scripture says, "For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God." 1 Corinthians 2:11

When it's all said and done, we can't fully know, and this even more-so with those we "know" only from a distance and by bits of information. Even given our best efforts our judgment will be flawed so best to look at all we can, ask the Lord for wisdom and guidance, and pray we follow the Lord's lead and not our own.

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On 3/4/2016 at 0:35 PM, wretched said:

Unfortunately at this time, Trump is the only chance the country has to correct the downward spiral of the Obama-nation currently in office IMO.

Any other republican regardless of who, stands no chance to defeat Hillary in November.

If Hillary gets in, kiss your freedom to serve Christ goodbye along with every other freedom you still enjoy.

Whatever peeves us about Trump has to take a back seat at this point in history. Make no mistake, this country and our way of life cannot survive Hillary or Sanders not after that obamanation has already turned right to wrong and up to down and has inflicted serious damage setting us on a path to self destruction.

Would Cruz be a more Godly example and leader, probably but that ain't the point folks. Cruz has no chance against Hillary or even sanders.

Trump has awakened over 50% of the voting eligible public. These are people who have rarely if ever voted simply because they hate and distrust all politicians.

If Trump isn't given the nod, then that huge, overwhelming voter base will simply go back to sleep and Hillary will win...mark my words

 

 

Interesting.....

 

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I watched many video clips today where people admitted that their tickets AND time had been paid for by the  "black lives matter" movement, and they were told to go and disrupt the Trump rallies!
These people do not understand what socialism really is, they are being misled by "free" handouts. 
They can't even understand that they are being used as pawns to disrupt freedom of speech with violence and rioting.
Sure they SAY they believe in freedom of speech (but it's apparent that they only want freedom of speech for themselves and NOT for any opposing viewpoints).
They have the right to protest, but they do not have the right to illegally block roadways, and to go inside rallies to disrupt free speech.

I was truly shocked when today I heard both Rubio and Cruz come out and BLAME Mr. Trump for what happened in Chicago yesterday, as well as in Montgomery County, Ohio today!
If these same "black lives matters" protesters came to a Rubio or Cruz rally to disrupt it (with illegal activities and violence), would they then blame themselves for the melee that would follow?
Certainly anyone attacked had the right to defend themselves, yet Rubio and Cruz are spinning this as if his (Trump's) supporters are who "started it"!?!
Nonsense and shame on them!

I had really been thinking Cruz was a man of integrity up until this day.
Yes, I was concerned about his "dominionism" past.
But I had been hoping he would pull ahead of Trump because I thought he had more Christian values, and aligned more with my own beliefs.
But after today, it's apparent to me, that if he can blame Trump for those who came against him, and those paid off "black lives matters" who disrupted the free speech rally, then I think the man has little discernment of the reality of the situation.
And the mud-slinging has landed back in his own face today.
I wonder how he will spin it when those same "black lives matters" (or any liberal group) comes to disrupt HIS rallies???
Can Cruz beat Hilary or Bernie come November? After today, and after seeing how out of touch with reality he is... I doubt it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmxBp4IFe_I
 

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I have heard that Trumph isn't a Globalist, or a New World Orderist, (this means he's not a puppet of the Luciferian secret societies) if this is true, then he would be the best man for the Job, if this were true and he became President, then I believe he would be the first real president since JFK.

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This is what Cruz said...and he was spot on. Trump endorses and encourages violence. 

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Here's a compilation of some of Trump's calls for violence:  http://mashable.com/2016/03/12/trump-rally-incite-violence/#8bwMrCO7Fiqz 

Alinsky-style tactics sown will be reaped.

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14 hours ago, Old-Pilgrim said:

I have heard that Trumph isn't a Globalist, or a New World Orderist, (this means he's not a puppet of the Luciferian secret societies) if this is true, then he would be the best man for the Job, if this were true and he became President, then I believe he would be the first real president since JFK.

That is exactly why the elite are pulling out all the stops to derail him. Trump speaks of America's best interests, tending to America first, rather than putting perceived best interests of globalization ahead of America's best interests.

The "new world order" crowd is feeling threatened. They know even a Trump presidency couldn't stop them, but it could slow them down and hamper them for four to eight years; longer if the public would catch on.

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1 hour ago, John81 said:

That is exactly why the elite are pulling out all the stops to derail him. Trump speaks of America's best interests, tending to America first, rather than putting perceived best interests of globalization ahead of America's best interests.

The "new world order" crowd is feeling threatened. They know even a Trump presidency couldn't stop them, but it could slow them down and hamper them for four to eight years; longer if the public would catch on.

Is Ted Cruz part of the "New World Order" crowd? If you say so, please show proof.

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Cruz has even accepted monies from David McIntosh, the president of Club for Growth.

Remember Club for Growth is pro-amnesty, and when they asked Trump for a million-dollar donation, Trump refused. So CfG spent $3.3 million in attack ads against Trump. Of course Ted Cruz has no problem accepting money from McIntosh, and why wouldn’t he, he’s for open borders. Heidi Cruz spent five years at the Council on Foreign Relations helping to write the North America Union, and that filthy sovereignty destroying piece of legislation eliminates the borders between Canada, Mexico and the United States. If Cruz becomes president, we will become just like the now failed, European Union.

http://www.newswithviews.com/Nelson/kelleigh285.htm

 

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27 minutes ago, John81 said:

Cruz has even accepted monies from David McIntosh, the president of Club for Growth.

Remember Club for Growth is pro-amnesty, and when they asked Trump for a million-dollar donation, Trump refused. So CfG spent $3.3 million in attack ads against Trump. Of course Ted Cruz has no problem accepting money from McIntosh, and why wouldn’t he, he’s for open borders. Heidi Cruz spent five years at the Council on Foreign Relations helping to write the North America Union, and that filthy sovereignty destroying piece of legislation eliminates the borders between Canada, Mexico and the United States. If Cruz becomes president, we will become just like the now failed, European Union.

http://www.newswithviews.com/Nelson/kelleigh285.htm

 

Really? He has a funny way of letting us know that.


"As President, I will stop illegal immigration, build a wall that works, triple border security, and put in place the surveillance and biometric tracking to secure the border. Border security is national security. We need to stop Obama’s amnesty and enforce the rule of law. And we need to reform legal immigration to protect American workers -- Ted Cruz"

https://www.tezcruz.org/cruz-immigration-plan/

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/15/politics/ted-cruz-immigration-legalization/

 

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Just now, heartstrings said:

Really? He has a funny way of letting us know that.


"As President, I will stop illegal immigration, build a wall that works, triple border security, and put in place the surveillance and biometric tracking to secure the border. Border security is national security. We need to stop Obama’s amnesty and enforce the rule of law. And we need to reform legal immigration to protect American workers -- Ted Cruz"

https://www.tezcruz.org/cruz-immigration-plan/

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/15/politics/ted-cruz-immigration-legalization/

 

I think it was Rubio, and maybe one or two others, who challenged Cruz on several points where he's recently changed his tune.

One conservative commentator (not a Trump supporter) pointed out that if it wasn't for Trump raising the immigration issue and finding popular opinion behind his views, none of the other candidates would have moved in that direction.

Regardless of a stated position on immigration with Mexico, if the North American Union becomes a reality, the borders will virtually cease to exist anyway.

3 minutes ago, Old-Pilgrim said:

Council on Foreign Relations are Globalists.

True.

Take the connections, follow the money and the truth is nearby.

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One thing about secret societies is that there are according to their own members some who are secret in every regard, their existence is to be kept secret, unlike Scottish Rite Masonry which is quite open with the fact of it's existence as many Masons in the uk are, as far as they have public buildings etc.

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1 minute ago, Old-Pilgrim said:

One thing about secret societies is that there are according to their own members some who are secret in every regard, their existence is to be kept secret, unlike Scottish Rite Masonry which is quite open with the fact of it's existence as many Masons in the uk are, as far as they have public buildings etc.

For most of the secret societies, their existence is known but their members tend to be quiet, secretive, even though many know their overall agenda or main goals.

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