Members Willo Posted August 22, 2008 Members Share Posted August 22, 2008 G?day! I found this interesting video on YouTube looking at the issue of Calvinism, it is a debate with James White (Calvinist) and Dave Hunt (non-Calvinist). It is quite a decent video, so I thought I would share it with you, and get your opinions on it as well.http://sovereigntybaptist.blogspot.com/ ... -dave.html May this video encourage us all to think more theologically as we come to dealing with the deep things of Scripture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members speerjp1 Posted August 22, 2008 Members Share Posted August 22, 2008 Have you read Dave Hunt's What Love Is This?? You ought to. :thumb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members speerjp1 Posted August 22, 2008 Members Share Posted August 22, 2008 May this video encourage us all to think more theologically as we come to dealing with the deep things of Scripture. Salvation is not one of the deep things of scripture. Salvation is the key to understanding all of the rest of God's word, not the end of studying God's word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Willo Posted August 22, 2008 Author Members Share Posted August 22, 2008 Have you read Dave Hunt's What Love Is This?? You ought to. :thumb Not all of it. I found it rather disturbing how Mr. Hunt misquotes Spurgeon, and paints him as a non-calvinist, this clearly showed Mr. Hunts lack of understanding of what Spurgeon actually taught, and showed a lack of scholarship. I have however read his book he co-wrote with James White regarding the Calvinism debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Willo Posted August 22, 2008 Author Members Share Posted August 22, 2008 Salvation is not one of the deep things of scripture. Salvation is the key to understanding all of the rest of God's word, not the end of studying God's word. I would disagree, for once we start to study the doctrine of salvation, we start to study the mercy and grace of God. This of course is a very deep subject, as we can never fully fathom the fullness of God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Willo Posted August 22, 2008 Author Members Share Posted August 22, 2008 For those interested: An Open Letter to Dave Hunt regarding "What Love is This": http://vintage.aomin.org/DHOpenLetter.html Dave Hunt vs. Charles Spurgeon: http://vintage.aomin.org/huntvsspurgeon.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members speerjp1 Posted August 22, 2008 Members Share Posted August 22, 2008 Then what are you doing trying to convince others of error of Calvinism? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Willo Posted August 22, 2008 Author Members Share Posted August 22, 2008 Then what are you doing trying to convince others of error of Calvinism? I would contend that it is not error but rather the correct exegesis of Scripture. If you are going to make claims that it is in error, then please provide evidence to support such statements. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members speerjp1 Posted August 22, 2008 Members Share Posted August 22, 2008 Not all of it. I found it rather disturbing how Mr. Hunt misquotes Spurgeon' date=' and paints him as a non-calvinist, this clearly showed Mr. Hunts lack of understanding of what Spurgeon actually taught, and showed a lack of scholarship. I have however read his book he co-wrote with James White regarding the Calvinism debate.[/quote'] I don't care much for Spurgeon (He said some good things, but he obviously didn't understand Biblical salvation.), but Hunt only uses Spurgeon to hurt the credibility of Calvinism because he knows how much you guys like Spurgeon, not because he believes Spurgeon to be non-Calvinistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Willo Posted August 22, 2008 Author Members Share Posted August 22, 2008 Not so, if you read "What Love is This" you see that Dave Hunt misrepresents Spurgeon, the errors are clearly documented: http://vintage.aomin.org/huntvsspurgeon.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members speerjp1 Posted August 22, 2008 Members Share Posted August 22, 2008 I would contend that it is not error but rather the correct exegesis of Scripture. If you are going to make claims that it is in error' date=' then please provide evidence to support such statements. [/quote'] You asserted the validity of Calvinism so you must prove that. It's called prima facia. You already stated that you think we are wrong on the issue so it is not our responsibility to prove to you the are in error for thinking we are in error. :cooldude: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members speerjp1 Posted August 22, 2008 Members Share Posted August 22, 2008 Maybe you could provide evidence that isn't from Calvinist activists? All the info you're giving comes from Calvinists, not the Bible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Willo Posted August 22, 2008 Author Members Share Posted August 22, 2008 The video I posted clearly shows where people like Dave Hunt is in error in regards to the exegesis of John 6. Now, if you think that that was in error, and if you believe that I am pushing error, then please show me where I am wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members speerjp1 Posted August 22, 2008 Members Share Posted August 22, 2008 Clearly in your opinion. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Willo Posted August 22, 2008 Author Members Share Posted August 22, 2008 Maybe you could provide evidence that isn't from Calvinist activists? All the info you're giving comes from Calvinists, not the Bible. Did you not post support from Dave Hunt? Surely, that isn't Scripture. I have provided Scriptural support in the video, yet, you haven't engaged the topic at hand, but rather attacked Calvinism, without actually providing any evidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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