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Paul: Now I beseech you, brethren, mark [ skopeō ] them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.  Romans 16:17

Paul: Brethren, be followers together of me, and mark [ skopeō ] them which walk so as ye have us for an ensample.  Philemon 3:17

skopeō - to look at, observe, contemplate  [as in to "scope out", observe]

Note: skopeō does not mean vile personal, or verbally abusive attacks and name-calling

Luke 6:14b "out of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaks."

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I wish the owner of this forum would apply this verse to you.  This is a forum for Independent, Fundamental, Soul-Winning, Bible-Believing Local Church Baptists.  It is not a forum for universal hyper-dispensationalist protestants promoting heresy and apostasy.

Paul also said to follow Christ; the Ruckmanites always forget that one. 

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2 hours ago, swathdiver said:

the Ruckmanites

Here we go with the name-calling again. I don't know anyone here who quotes Ruckman.

2 hours ago, swathdiver said:

Paul also said to follow Christ

Yes, he did! Christ never said to call people names and unfairly categorize them with people they are not associated with.

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Acts 15:1-2 -- "And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved.  When therefore Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and disputation with them, they determined that Paul and Barnabas, and certain other of them, should go up to Jerusalem unto the apostles and elders about this question."

Questions #1 -- In the activity of "no small [that is - a quite large and intense] dissension and disputation," were Paul and Barnabas committing a sin against the Lord God by engaging in this activity?

Question #2 -- In the activity of "no small dissension and disputation," were Paul and Barnabas acting contrary to the Lord God's commands of godly love and kindness?

Question #3 -- If Paul and Barnabas were not committing a sin against the Lord God by engaging in this activity of "no small dissension and disputation," is this activity one of those in which we are to be following after the apostle Paul's example?

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Seems like I recall someone saying...

I think that the shallow "drive-by" poster has already added his two-cents.  Shallow posters like that are simply desiring attention, as their responses are very limited in intellect and they never have any meaningful Original Post to offer.

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15 hours ago, beameup said:

Paul: Now I beseech you, brethren, mark [ skopeō ] them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.  Romans 16:17

Paul: Brethren, be followers together of me, and mark [ skopeō ] them which walk so as ye have us for an ensample.  Philemon 3:17

skopeō - to look at, observe, contemplate  [as in to "scope out", observe]

Note: skopeō does not mean vile personal, or verbally abusive attacks and name-calling

Luke 6:14b "out of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaks."

 

On ‎9‎/‎4‎/‎2014 at 6:16 PM, beameup said:

I recommended Feldick once as an example of someone on TV that understands "rightly dividing" of Scripture.  I will also recommend Ruckman and Richard Jordan

A half-hour of watching should give one an understanding of the concept.  Further "watching" will not further the understanding of "rightly dividing"... unless one is "thick" [Prov 7:7]

However, it appears that MountainChristian is addicted to watching Les Feldick.  

 

BTW, do they understand the difference between "watch" and "recommend" Down Under?

 

Study to shew thyself approved unto God,

a workman that needeth not to be ashamed,

rightly dividing the word of truth. 2 Tim 2:15

 

9 hours ago, swathdiver said:

I wish the owner of this forum would apply this verse to you.  This is a forum for Independent, Fundamental, Soul-Winning, Bible-Believing Local Church Baptists.  It is not a forum for universal hyper-dispensationalist protestants promoting heresy and apostasy.

Paul also said to follow Christ; the Ruckmanites always forget that one. 

I think its because this is Ruckman teaching without giving Ruckman credit.

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"For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision: Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre's sake. One of themselves, even a prophet of their own, said, The Cretians are alway liars, evil beasts, slow bellies. This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith." (Titus 1:10-13)  Paul sounded pretty rough here. While he may not have called them liars and slow bellies, he certainly agreed with it.  Paul often named names of those in the wrong, even Peter. Why? Because especially those who may have influence on many, particularly outside of their own ministry, they have a much more public ministry and as such, they should be rebuked publicly for the edification of others who may hear and be in danger of falling to their false teachings or sin.

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Brethren, be followers together of me [Paul], and mark [skopeō] them  which walk so, as ye have us for an ensample. Phil 3:17
skopeō:  look at, observe, contemplate (in this case, follow their "example")
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2 hours ago, Critical Mass said:

You people will never change. It's time to put away the baby bottle for the meat of the word. No wonder this forum is dead.

But you're an agnostic who believes that God is unknowable; therefore, it shouldn't matter to you whether we are on the milk or meat of God's word. Babes in Christ and mature Christians both learn to know God through his word.

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8 minutes ago, No Nicolaitans said:

But you're an agnostic who believes that God is unknowable; therefore, it shouldn't matter to you whether we are on the milk or meat of God's word. Babes in Christ and mature Christians both learn to know God through his word.

How can anyone who is confused over their own salvation from one day to the next be lead by the Spirit in any doctrine. He puts Christ to an open shame and is beyond reproof.

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7 hours ago, wretched said:

How can anyone who is confused over their own salvation from one day to the next be lead by the Spirit in any doctrine. He puts Christ to an open shame and is beyond reproof.

At some point, many (new) Christians are led astray by false teachers... you know, the ones who claim their "superiority" because the went to a seminary, and love titles like "pastor".  It is common for these false teachers to take portions of scripture that are directed at Jews (ie: Hebrews) and force them to apply to the Body of Christ.  Many have stumbled over Hebrews 6:6. 

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1 hour ago, beameup said:

At some point, many (new) Christians are led astray by false teachers... you know, the ones who claim their "superiority" because the went to a seminary, and love titles like "pastor".  It is common for these false teachers to take portions of scripture that are directed at Jews (ie: Hebrews) and force them to apply to the Body of Christ.  Many have stumbled over Hebrews 6:6

Sorry friend

I am as dispensational as the next guy and probably more so but I cannot subscribe to this idea that any whole Book in the NT is non-applicable to every man and woman. Besides, Paul wrote Hebrews and that fact is beyond any shadow of doubt in my mind.

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4 hours ago, wretched said:

Sorry friend

I am as dispensational as the next guy and probably more so but I cannot subscribe to this idea that any whole Book in the NT is non-applicable to every man and woman. Besides, Paul wrote Hebrews and that fact is beyond any shadow of doubt in my mind.

Then Leviticus should be equally applicable, as it is part of the entire "Word of God", written to us Christians.  I believe that 7th Day Adventists take this position.  Since the Jews rejected Jesus, and hence their "inheritance",  then all the Book is written to "us" and for "us" and there never was a group of disciples that believed that the King would return to immediately set-up his "earthly" Kingdom.. right?

PS: They have been saying for 1700 years that the "Temple Mount" is where the Temple was located, so it MUST be so.... just like the King James translators put Paul's name on "Hebrews".

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6 hours ago, wretched said:

Sorry friend

I am as dispensational as the next guy and probably more so but I cannot subscribe to this idea that any whole Book in the NT is non-applicable to every man and woman. Besides, Paul wrote Hebrews and that fact is beyond any shadow of doubt in my mind.

NT means New Testament

2 hours ago, beameup said:

Then Leviticus should be equally applicable, as it is part of the entire "Word of God", written to us Christians.  I believe that 7th Day Adventists take this position.  Since the Jews rejected Jesus, and hence their "inheritance",  then all the Book is written to "us" and for "us" and there never was a group of disciples that believed that the King would return to immediately set-up his "earthly" Kingdom.. right?

PS: They have been saying for 1700 years that the "Temple Mount" is where the Temple was located, so it MUST be so.... just like the King James translators put Paul's name on "Hebrews".

Leviticus is in the Old Testament

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1 minute ago, MountainChristian said:

NT means New Testament

Leviticus is in the Old Testament

So what?  It's all the "Word of God".   And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: Mark 9:43

All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 2 Tim 3:16  (all same-same, right?)

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6 hours ago, beameup said:

And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: Mark 9:43

AMEN!  I myself am certainly prepared to express my "amen" to the preaching of our Lord Jesus Christ in Mark 9:43.  Are you?  Indeed, I myself am willing to accept that the point of this instruction from our Lord Jesus Christ is just as applicable today as it was when He preached it.  I wonder do you disagree with the rest of the verse -- "And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched."  Would it now be better for someone "having two hands" to go "into the fire that never shall be quenched," than "to enter into life maimed"?

6 hours ago, beameup said:

All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 2 Tim 3:16  (all same-same, right?)
(emphasis added by Pastor Scott Markle)

So then, are you questioning the truthfulness of 2 Timothy 3:16?  Yea, doth God's Word say -- "All Scripture"?

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We get the point Beameup. Unfortunately the "point" has been rejected by you in favor of your own private interpretations.

 1Ti 1:18This charge I commit unto thee, son Timothy, according to the prophecies which went before on thee, that thou by them mightest war a good warfare; 
 
19 Holding faith, and a good conscience; which some having put away concerning faith have made shipwreck: 

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Titus 1:9-11 -- "Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayersFor there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision: whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre’s sake."

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15 hours ago, beameup said:

Then Leviticus should be equally applicable, as it is part of the entire "Word of God", written to us Christians.  I believe that 7th Day Adventists take this position.  Since the Jews rejected Jesus, and hence their "inheritance",  then all the Book is written to "us" and for "us" and there never was a group of disciples that believed that the King would return to immediately set-up his "earthly" Kingdom.. right?

PS: They have been saying for 1700 years that the "Temple Mount" is where the Temple was located, so it MUST be so.... just like the King James translators put Paul's name on "Hebrews".

Jesus explaining Leviticus to the Jews

Mar 7:18-23 And he saith unto them, Are ye so without understanding also? Do ye not perceive, that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it cannot defile him; Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats? And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man. For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness: All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.

"out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness: All these evil things come from within, and defile the man." No Christian is allowed to do these things. No Jewish Christian, No Gentile Christian. Does the law condemn any man who does those things? Yes. What happens when they do them? They sin. Who can save us from our thoughts? Jesus. Jesus can forgive a man when he sins in his thoughts. Jewish men and Gentile men. Jesus is merciful to both peoples when they sin and ask him to be forgiven.

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