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It's one of those you have to "wrest" , "take away" and "add to" to get it to say what you want.

Now there was a day when the angels came to present themselves in Heaven before the throne of the LORD, and Satan came to Heaven also among them.  Job 1:6

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Or perhaps this from the Old Testament (Hebrew) "comparing scripture with scripture":

Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding. Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it? Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof; When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?  Job 38:4-7 
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39 minutes ago, beameup said:

Or perhaps this from the Old Testament (Hebrew) "comparing scripture with scripture":

Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding. Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it? Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof; When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

Some think these verses are one whole question referring to the creation of the earth and logic is used to say Man did not exist yet so this "must be" angels. But the passage does not say this. Notice the passage is actually five separate questions. They were not present at creation but they were present when the "Corner stone" was laid. In the Bible every time we see "Corner stone" in scripture we see it is only ever referring to Christ. Christ became this Cornerstone at his resurrection and this is when "the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy."

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The New Testament is very clear the "Son's of God" refer only to the Saved Human Race. What is true of the "Son" is true of the "Sons" as we are co-heirs with Christ. The Angels are not co-heirs with Christ but rather ministers to the Sons.
 

John 1:12-14 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13 which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

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18 hours ago, heartstrings said:

All I'm going to say, at this point, is that the Word of God clearly defines what
"sons of God" are; and they are not angels,

Call them "whatever", In the O.T. (ie: Hebrew), they are direct creations of God (ie: they are not procreated like a human being is).

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And men shall speak of the might of thy terrible acts: and I will declare thy greatness. They [men] shall abundantly utter the memory of thy great goodness, and shall sing of thy righteousness. The LORD is gracious, and full of compassion; slow to anger, and of great mercy. The LORD is good to all: and his tender mercies are over all his works. All thy works shall praise thee, O LORD; and thy saints shall bless thee. They shall speak of the glory of thy kingdom, and talk of thy power;  To make known to the sons of men his mighty acts, and the glorious majesty of his kingdom. Thy kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and thy dominion endureth throughout all generations.  Psalm 145:6-13

Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.  2 Tim 2:15

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2 hours ago, beameup said:

Call them "whatever", In the O.T. (ie: Hebrew), they are direct creations of God (ie: they are not procreated like a human being is).

A direct creation of God does not mean they are "sons of God". Many things were directly created by God but are not "His sons". In fact the bible never ever stated "Direct creations are the sons of God". That is just a made up statement.  RATHER, the bible clearly teaches to be a son of God you must have His Holy Spirit.

Psalm 104:30 Thou sendest forth thy spirit, they are created: and thou renewest the face of the earth.

Luke 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

John 1:11-13 He came unto his own, and his own received him not. 12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God,even to them that believe on his name: 13 which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

John 10:34-38 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law [Psalm 82], I said, Ye are gods? 35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; 36 say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? 37 If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not. 38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.

John 17:20-2320 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; 21 that they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. 22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: 23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.

Romans 8:14-17 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: 17 and if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

Galatians 4:6-7 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father. 7 Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ.

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Refer to Luke's genealogy (Lk 3).  The last verse: Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.  Adam was directly created by God (had no parents); the ANGELS were directly created by God, hence the title "sons of God".  We are "a new creation" in Christ. 

Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 2 Tim 2:15
 

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43 minutes ago, beameup said:

Refer to Luke's genealogy (Lk 3).  The last verse: Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.  Adam was directly created by God (had no parents); the ANGELS were directly created by God, hence the title "sons of God".  We are "a new creation" in Christ. 

"Direct Creation" is a false equivalence. Being a "direct creation" did not make Adam God's son but rather God giving of His Spirit to man made him a son. Adam the first man was made to have the image and likeness of God. No other "direct creation" received such an honor this was unique to humanity alone. Angels are servant spirits and are not sons of God. [Hebrews 1:5,14]

Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:

Genesis 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

Genesis 2:7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Genesis 9:6 Whoso sheddeth man’s blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.

John 20:22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:

1 Corinthians 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

2 Corinthians 4:3-4 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: 4 in whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. 

Colossians 1:15 who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

Romans 8:29-30 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. 30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

1 Corinthians 15:49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.

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Hebrews 1:6 (KJV) 6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.

Hebrews 1:7 (KJV) 7 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.

Hebrews 1:8 (KJV) 8 But unto the Son [he saith], Thy throne, O God, [is] for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness [is] the sceptre of thy kingdom.

 

Pretty clear to me,... The angels were made spirits, not sons.  Only one son is seen in Heaven, and that Son is the Lord Jesus Christ.

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7 hours ago, beameup said:

Refer to Luke's genealogy (Lk 3).  The last verse: Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.  Adam was directly created by God (had no parents); the ANGELS were directly created by God, hence the title "sons of God".  We are "a new creation" in Christ. 

Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 2 Tim 2:15
 

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Brother man, the first chicken was a direct creation of God too.....or was it the egg? :blink:

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“For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?”   Hebrews 1:5

 

A "son" is a being which is "begotten" by a "father", and possesses the power to "beget". Physical sons are begotten by natural means while Spiritual sons are begotten by the Word of God, and the Holy Spirit, through faith by receiving Christ.  Angels can do neither.

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Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of GodLuke 3:38

That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.  Genesis 6:2

Hebrew: bənê hāʼĕlōhîm, בני האלהים

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I will declare thy name unto my brethren: in the midst of the congregation will I praise thee. Ye that fear the LORD, praise him; all ye the seed of Jacob, glorify him; and fear him, all ye the seed of Israel. For he hath not despised nor abhorred the affliction of the afflicted; neither hath he hid his face from him; but when he cried unto him, he heard. My praise shall be of thee in the great congregation: I will pay my vows before them that fear him. The meek shall eat and be satisfied: they shall praise the LORD that seek him: your heart shall live for ever. All the ends of the world shall remember and turn unto the LORD: and all the kindreds of the nations shall worship before thee. For the kingdom is the LORD'S: and he is the governor among the nations.  Psalm 22:28

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You know why, I believe, Adam became the son of God? It was not because Adam was a "direct creation"; possums and pokeydotted salamanders are direct creations. Adam called on God, believed on his name some time after he had sinned and became lost. That's how he became a son. All the men in the direct ancestry of Christ were believers, and Adam was one of them.

17 minutes ago, beameup said:

Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of GodLuke 3:38

That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.  Genesis 6:2

Hebrew: bənê hāʼĕlōhîm, בני האלהים

 

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And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations [Gentiles] which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles  Zech 14:16

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Joshua 5:13 -15 And it came to pass, when Joshua was by Jericho, that he lifted up his eyes and looked, and, behold, there stood a man over against him with his sword drawn in his hand: and Joshua went unto him, and said unto him, Art thou for us, or for our adversaries? And he said, Nay; but as captain of the host of the LORD am I now come. And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship, and said unto him, What saith my lord unto his servant? And the captain of the LORD'S host said unto Joshua, Loose thy shoe from off thy foot; for the place whereon thou standest is holy. And Joshua did so.

Was this "the son of man" who became Jesus? An angel?

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Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence. [the world and/or Israel]  John 18:36
Note that Jesus never presents himself directly as a revolutionary to "overthrow" the Romans, as that would bring the wrath of the ruling Romans upon him.  Then, in this verse, he finally indicates that His Kingdom could have been "from hence". 
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John 18:37 Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.

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In that day shall the branch of the LORD be beautiful and glorious, and the fruit of the earth shall be excellent and comely for them that are escaped of Israel. And it shall come to pass, that he that is left in Zion, and he that remaineth in Jerusalem, shall be called holy, even every one that is written among the living in Jerusalem: When the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion, and shall have purged the blood of Jerusalem from the midst thereof by the spirit of judgment, and by the spirit of burning. And the LORD will create upon every dwelling place of mount Zion, and upon her assemblies, a cloud and smoke by day, and the shining of a flaming fire by night: for upon all the glory shall be a defence. And there shall be a tabernacle for a shadow in the daytime from the heat, and for a place of refuge, and for a covert from storm and from rain.  Isaiah 4:2-6
And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:  Isaiah 11:1
 
The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them. And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox. And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.  Isaiah 11:6-9 
 
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8 hours ago, beameup said:
In that day shall the branch of the LORD be beautiful and glorious, and the fruit of the earth shall be excellent and comely for them that are escaped of Israel. And it shall come to pass, that he that is left in Zion, and he that remaineth in Jerusalem, shall be called holy, even every one that is written among the living in Jerusalem: When the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion, and shall have purged the blood of Jerusalem from the midst thereof by the spirit of judgment, and by the spirit of burning. And the LORD will create upon every dwelling place of mount Zion, and upon her assemblies, a cloud and smoke by day, and the shining of a flaming fire by night: for upon all the glory shall be a defence. And there shall be a tabernacle for a shadow in the daytime from the heat, and for a place of refuge, and for a covert from storm and from rain.  Isaiah 4:2-6
And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his rootsIsaiah 11:1
 
The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them. And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox. And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.  Isaiah 11:6-9 
 

What is a cockatrice?

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1 hour ago, Invicta said:

What is a cockatrice?

tsepha`  H6848 - poisonous serpent

The King of the Kingdom

And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD; And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of the LORD: and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears: But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked. And righteousness shall be the girdle of his loins, and faithfulness the girdle of his reins. Isaiah 11:2-6
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All the ends of the world shall remember and turn unto the LORD: and all the kindreds of the nations [Gentiles] shall worship before thee. For the kingdom is the LORD'S: and he is the governor among the nations. Psalm 22:27-28

 

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