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      Psalms 119:1-8                                         Sep. 5 - Oct. 2, 2019
      1 ALEPH. Blessed are the undefiled in the way, who walk in the law of the LORD.
      2 Blessed are they that keep his testimonies, and that seek him with the whole heart.
      3 They also do no iniquity: they walk in his ways.
      4 Thou hast commanded us to keep thy precepts diligently.
      5 O that my ways were directed to keep thy statutes!
      6 Then shall I not be ashamed, when I have respect unto all thy commandments.
      7 I will praise thee with uprightness of heart, when I shall have learned thy righteous judgments.
      8 I will keep thy statutes: O forsake me not utterly.
      The following verse stood out to me...
      5 O that my ways were directed to keep thy statutes!
      At first glance it seemed to me this person’s soul is poured out with intense desire to have God’s direction in keeping His Word.
      I made a small wood fire in our backyard for my granddaughter, Julia, since she would be staying overnight with us. My wife and Julia stayed outside at the fire for about half an hour. Then, I found myself alone to watch the fire die out on a particularly lovely evening. So I took my verse from above and began to repeat it for memorization. As I repeated the verse, I tried to contemplate the words and apply them to what I was seeing around me. 
      The moon and stars were out now peering through the scattered clouds above.
      [Genesis 1:16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. Genesis 1:17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, Genesis 1:18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.]
      Thought 1         
      The moon has stayed his course since the day God created him, also the stars, obeying the statutes directed by God from the first day they were created. Can you imagine God’s direction to the Moon and stars, “moon you will have a path through the sky above the earth, stars you will occupy the firmament above the moon and be clearly visible in the cloudless night sky.”
      Then, the trees, grass, even the air we breathe obey the statues God gave them from the beginning. None of these creations have souls, none have hearts, none have intelligence, but they all observe God’s statutes, His instructions for their limited time on earth.
      Thought 2
      What if we were like the moon, stars, trees, grass, or the other creations which have no soul? We would be directed to keep God’s statutes without choosing to keep them. This is not the image of God, there would be no dominion over other creatures, or over the earth. We would not be capable of experiencing the joy and peace of learning the love of God
      Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
      Philippians 4:7 And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.
      Thought 3 (October 2, 2019)
      Is the psalmist pleading God to force God’s statutes to become the man’s ways? No, he is speaking of his own failure in keeping God’s statutes and his desire to keep them, very much like Paul in Romans 7:14-25.
      God doesn’t work through force to turn men from their ways that they would desire His statutes or desire God Himself. Men must reject (repent) put aside his own ways and voluntarily seek God and His statutes.

Way of Life - The Antichrist and the Third Temple

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Thus, the Jews are not looking for a Saviour from sin; they are looking for a Messiah that will bring peace, that will solve their problems, that will help them to rebuild the Temple, that will not rebuke them as sinners but will help them follow their “positive inclinations.”

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Many argue against a literal, physical third temple, saying that since Jesus came, there is no need for a third temple. Of course, this argument seems to completely misunderstand that the Jews, in building this temple, are still in darkness, and of course, that this will usher in the Antichrist. They instead insist that the temple the Bible refers to is the temple of the human body, and that the Antichrist will sit in the hearts of the people, in their eyes as being God. Now, I don't doubt this will happen-all those who are not saved, or have willingly rejected Christ beforehand, will believe a lie, a strong delusion sent by the Lord, and receive the Antichrist as god. But this doesn't negate a literal temple, as well.

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Out of curiosity, "Invicta",  I wonder what do you presume 2 Thessalonians 2:4 to mean? A "spiritual" temple?

2 Thes 2:4 "Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God."

It clearly isn't referencing Antiochus IV (175-164 BC) as his lifespan was well before 2 Thessalonians was written.
 

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17 hours ago, Invicta said:

Not the human body.  The temple now is the church,  

 

1Cor 6:19 "What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?"  This was what I was referring to, that, because the Holy Ghost dwells within each of us, our body is the temple. But I agree that the body of Christ, the church, is also the New Testament temple, but I believe there will be a literal their temple in Israel, since that is the whole goal of the Jews, and it is that temple which the OP is referring to.

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18 hours ago, Invicta said:

Not the human body.  The temple now is the church,  

 

4 hours ago, Ronda said:

Out of curiosity, "Invicta",  I wonder what do you presume 2 Thessalonians 2:4 to mean? A "spiritual" temple?

2 Thes 2:4 "Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God."

It clearly isn't referencing Antiochus IV (175-164 BC) as his lifespan was well before 2 Thessalonians was written.

 

1 hour ago, Ukulelemike said:

1Cor 6:19 "What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?"  This was what I was referring to, that, because the Holy Ghost dwells within each of us, our body is the temple. But I agree that the body of Christ, the church, is also the New Testament temple, but I believe there will be a literal their temple in Israel, since that is the whole goal of the Jews, and it is that temple which the OP is referring to.

Not that my opinion my matter for much; however, I would contend that Biblical truth is to be found in each one of the above postings, as follows:

1.  1 Corinthians 6:19 teaches us that the individual bodies of New Testament believers are spiritually the temple of God the Holy Spirit.

2.  Ephesians 2:14-22 & 1 Peter 2:4-6 teach us that the New Testament church is now spiritually the temple of God the Father, founded upon the New Testament apostles and prophets, "Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone."

3.  2 Thessalonians 2:4 teaches us that sometime in the future there shall be a rebuilding of the physical temple in Jerusalem.

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Mt 26:61  And said, This fellow said, I am able to destroy the temple of God, and to build it in three days.

He built the temple of his body at the resurrection, and then His body, the Church.

1Co 3:16  Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
1Co 3:17  If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.
2Co 6:16  And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

Note that all the pronouns are plural but temple is singular, otherwise it should read  Know ye not that ye are the temples of God

The Antichrist, the Pope sits in what he calls he Church making out he is God.  Why should Paul mean a temple of stones when in every other case he means the Church? 

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13 hours ago, Ronda said:

Out of curiosity, "Invicta",  I wonder what do you presume 2 Thessalonians 2:4 to mean? A "spiritual" temple?

2 Thes 2:4 "Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God."

It clearly isn't referencing Antiochus IV (175-164 BC) as his lifespan was well before 2 Thessalonians was written.
 

I did not mention Antiochus.  Of course even if his lifespan did extend, he could not be Antichrist because he did not come out of the Church. John, the only one who menions Antichrist say antichrists have gone out from us.  i.e. they are apostates.

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The Antichrist described in Thessalonians will have true supernatural powers.  As such, he will be worshipped as God.  The classical Greek word naos used in the phrase "he, as God, sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God." has its origin in the Classical Greek pagan temple, where the IMAGE of the pagan god was placed, and clearly is a reference to the Hebrew "holy-of-holies" (same place that Antiochus_IV_Epiphanes  polluted/corrupted with the "abomination").

I've known for decades about the work of the Temple Mount Faithful and the Temple Institute working on the establishment of the Third Temple.  My conjecture is that it will take another war against Israel (see Psalm 83), and the absolute defeat and humiliation of "Allah" the god of  Islam for the Temple Mount to be available for construction of the Third Temple. I suspect that everything has already been constructed in order to erect the "holy place" and the "most holy place" (as represented by the Tabernacle's architecture).

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"Beam me up": I agree that the temple in which the antichrist will desecrate (and falsely proclaim himself to be "god") is a physical structure noted in 2 Thes. 2:4 and is the same physical temple structure referred to in Revelation 11:1-2.  I also agree that the Temple Institute (and other groups) have constructed most (if not all) implements and garments in preparation for the third temple.  There is another group which has even been using DNA to breed a "flawless" red heifer. I also suspect that more preparations have been made than we currently have access to information about. But just the amount of information available is overwhelming evidence that the Orthodox Jewish community has made considerable preparations for the coming third (physical) temple.

I also agree that it will take a war (at least one) wherein islamic nations are soundly defeated in order that the temple can be built. I've read various commentary from "scholars" on Psalm 83, wherein the "inner ring" of nations (the nations directly surrounding Israel) are defeated.  It sounds logical (from a human perspective) that this would be the reason why those "inner ring" nations are missing from the nations described in Ezekiel 38-39. However, I take issue with any "scholar" who demands that Psalm 83 MUST happen prior to Ezekiel 38-39.  They have created a niche' market in books and videos for sale, which is another thing I take issue with, "selling" (for monetary profit) the word of God, or more specifically, their spin on the word of God.  There are others "scholars", such as Thomas Ice, who do not even believe Psalm 83 is referencing a war at all...  I'll leave the timing of Psalm 83 in God's hands because if Psalm 83 actually is a future war, there is nothing in the bible which states it MUST occur prior to Ezekiel 38-39 (even if it makes sense from a logical-human perspective). Isaiah 55:8 "For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord."    9 "For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts."

Either way, Ezekiel 38-39 will in fact occur. Whether it happens prior to or after the tribulation period starts is also a hotly debated topic. I tend to lean on the side towards either:  just prior to the tribulation, or just after we (saved/bride) have been raptured. My reasoning is that it will take Israel 7 years to burn the weapons and 7 months to bury the bodies of those who came against them.( Ezekiel 39:9-12).  And since we already know that the Jewish remnant will not actually be in Jerusalem for 3.5 years of the 7 year period (as Rev. 12:6 shows), then they couldn't be burning weapons and/or burying bodies from the Ezekiel 38-39 war during that time. 

Ezekiel 39:9-12  9 "And they that dwell in the cities of Israel shall go forth, and shall set on fire and burn the weapons, both the shields and the bucklers, the bows and the arrows, and the handstaves, and the spears, and they shall burn them with fire seven years:"
10 "So that they shall take no wood out of the field, neither cut down any out of the forests; for they shall burn the weapons with fire: and they shall spoil those that spoiled them, and rob those that robbed them, saith the Lord God."
11 "And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will give unto Gog a place there of graves in Israel, the valley of the passengers on the east of the sea: and it shall stop the noses of the passengers: and there shall they bury Gog and all his multitude: and they shall call it The valley of Hamongog."
12 "And seven months shall the house of Israel be burying of them, that they may cleanse the land."

Revelation 12:6 "And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days."

Admittedly, I could be wrong about my thoughts on the timing of Ezekiel 38-39, and I will leave it in the hands of our very capable God to determine the exact timing. Regardless of WHEN that war happens, the fact is, it WILL happen, as God does not lie, and His word is true. Having the past prophecies come to pass so accurately and literally is further assurance that the future prophecies will also be fulfilled as accurately and literally.  

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IMO, Psalms 83 is referencing war but this war has already occurred from our point in history and that is how it plays into future events in Revelation.

Speculation for the sake of current trends throughout the world and of course, giggle-snorts makes me wonder just how secretly allied islam is to the religious beast in rome. I am beginning to doubt that any war with islam would be necessary for the temple's building. The pope is beginning to openly unite with islam and will pretend to embrace Judaism soon under the umbrella of ecumenical peace and baloney.

In addition, I certainly don't buy into Gog being mad at the wild man right now, IMO the Russia/ islam tensions are only a ruse to keep flooding the west with jihadis.

Of course, giggle-snorting is fun and interesting when not taken too seriously. Not that any of your fine folk are taking it too seriously, just saying.

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IMO, Psalms 83 is referencing war but this war has already occurred from our point in history and that is how it plays into future events in Revelation.

Speculation for the sake of current trends throughout the world and of course, giggle-snorts makes me wonder just how secretly allied islam is to the religious beast in rome. I am beginning to doubt that any war with islam would be necessary for the temple's building. The pope is beginning to openly unite with islam and will pretend to embrace Judaism soon under the umbrella of ecumenical peace and baloney.

In addition, I certainly don't buy into Gog being mad at the wild man right now, IMO the Russia/ islam tensions are only a ruse to keep flooding the west with jihadis.

Of course, giggle-snorting is fun and interesting when not taken too seriously. Not that any of your fine folk are taking it too seriously, just saying.

The Roman Catholic Church create Islam. The purpose was to drive the Jews once and forever out of Palestine and to destroy the Donatists in North Africa who had grown in numbers and strength over the papists of Europe. Within 100 years after Islam was invented not one Donatist could be found in North Africa. 

Now after his conquest Muhammad, as a good son of the RCC, was supposed to hand over these possessions to the Pope but Muhammad told him to take a flying leap. 

By the way, Muhammad's #1 wife was a Roman Catholic who had spent time in a convent. It is believed by some that her brother, who was also Roman Catholic, may have copied down Muhammad's "visions" for him since he was illiterate. Also, the Hadith says in many places that Mohammad was a white man. There are many similarities between Islam and the Popery. One is the veneration of Fatima (aka Mary).which happened to be the name of Muhammad's youngest daughter by his #1 wife.

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12 hours ago, Critical Mass said:

The Roman Catholic Church create Islam. The purpose was to drive the Jews once and forever out of Palestine and to destroy the Donatists in North Africa who had grown in numbers and strength over the papists of Europe. Within 100 years after Islam was invented not one Donatist could be found in North Africa. 

Now after his conquest Muhammad, as a good son of the RCC, was supposed to hand over these possessions to the Pope but Muhammad told him to take a flying leap. 

By the way, Muhammad's #1 wife was a Roman Catholic who had spent time in a convent. It is believed by some that her brother, who was also Roman Catholic, may have copied down Muhammad's "visions" for him since he was illiterate. Also, the Hadith says in many places that Mohammad was a white man. There are many similarities between Islam and the Popery. One is the veneration of Fatima (aka Mary).which happened to be the name of Muhammad's youngest daughter by his #1 wife.

Sounds reasonable to me, I'll buy that as long as it is tithe-free?

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No doubt that there is good evidence that Jewish scribes were involved in the creation of the Koran, as they were the only ones available that were literate at that time and place.  However, the resultant document (conglomeration) was the equivalent of putting the Old Testament in a "blender".  As far as the "Moon God" (crescent) is concerned, it can be traced directly back to ancient Babylon.

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What conspiracy theories? Just speculation. As long as no one takes their speculation beyond that, and speculation doesn't disagree with clear scripture, I think its not only harmless, but a good exercise in reasoning.

My thoughts on the Antichrist are that I believe he will be of Arab nationality, because it will take a Muslim to convince the Muslims to make a peace, so called, that can make it possible to build the third temple. I believe he may well show himself to be the 12th Imam, and the 'prophet' with two horns like a lamb, will be their 'jesus', following their Imam around. After all, the world is already practically bowing and scraping to Islam today, so they would be ready for a 12th imam, who would, according to Muslim writings, bring peace and an end to way, and this is what the Antichrist will do, at least for a while, though we all know that war and famine and death and hell will follow after him. After all, doesn't the Bible say that those being killed during that time will be beheaded? Who else has done THAT lately?

Or, of course, this could all just be a bunch of baloney!

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On 12/17/2015 at 3:37 AM, beameup said:

The Antichrist described in Thessalonians will have true supernatural powers.  As such, he will be worshipped as God.  The classical Greek word naos used in the phrase "he, as God, sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God." has its origin in the Classical Greek pagan temple, where the IMAGE of the pagan god was placed, and clearly is a reference to the Hebrew "holy-of-holies" (same place that Antiochus_IV_Epiphanes  polluted/corrupted with the "abomination").

I've known for decades about the work of the Temple Mount Faithful and the Temple Institute working on the establishment of the Third Temple.  My conjecture is that it will take another war against Israel (see Psalm 83), and the absolute defeat and humiliation of "Allah" the god of  Islam for the Temple Mount to be available for construction of the Third Temple. I suspect that everything has already been constructed in order to erect the "holy place" and the "most holy place" (as represented by the Tabernacle's architecture).

I heard from a man about Psalm 83 being found in a Scottish marsh of some sort, pointing to a 'conspiracy' about Islam or some sort trying to kill Jews or something.

Turned out the scroll found was not really opened to the Psalm 83 that we know, but since that scroll was from a different line of manuscripts, it's Psalm 83 was actually our Psalm 84, thus destroying any connection 'conspiratorially'.

Silly folk.

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Bro. Clould concluded his excellent article with this conclusion; "Though they don’t know it, they are actually looking for the Antichrist and they will accept him when he comes. "

Bro. Cloud is biblically correct not only in his article but in his conclusion as well. In reference to Bro. Cloud's article, and his conclusion, the Lord Jesus stated, "I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive." John 5:43 Once the new Temple is built the Jews will accept the anti-christ, coming in his own name, and sitting in the Temple exactly as Bro. Cloud wrote as according to the prophecy of Paul the Apostle in 2 Thessalonians 2:3 and 4

Bro. Cloud has the spiritual discernment to 'rightly divide' the scriptures.

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11 hours ago, Alan said:

Bro. Clould concluded his excellent article with this conclusion; "Though they don’t know it, they are actually looking for the Antichrist and they will accept him when he comes. "

Bro. Cloud is biblically correct not only in his article but in his conclusion as well. In reference to Bro. Cloud's article, and his conclusion, the Lord Jesus stated, "I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive." John 5:43 Once the new Temple is built the Jews will accept the anti-christ, coming in his own name, and sitting in the Temple exactly as Bro. Cloud wrote as according to the prophecy of Paul the Apostle in 2 Thessalonians 2:3 and 4

Bro. Cloud has the spiritual discernment to 'rightly divide' the scriptures.

Alan


 

And of course, the Jews have already set themselves up to fail in this. They have declared that whoever makes it possible for them to build the temple WILL be the Messiah, not MIGHT be. So, should the Antichrist come along and bring a (false) peace that allows this, and throws some miracles about as well, he is sure to be received.

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