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I asked my husband about the court case to do with Barak O'bummer...

He gave up his US citizenship voluntarily when he took on citizenship elsewhere...so he's not a citizen anymore.


Not being mean, but I don't see how that can possibly be true or it would be plastered all over the news....

I remember they wanted to have Schwartznegger (sp?) run for Prez but he didn't fit the qualifications of citizenship right? So he didn't...or something or somebody like that. I thought they pretty much followed the rules. Did you get that from a reputable source, or a private news source?

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I guess you actually believe the TV to be a "reputable source"...

Here is the article, decide for yourself, but I for one don't believe anything the people on TV tell me. They want Obama as president and will cover up anything to get him.

THURSDAY, AUGUST 21, 2008



Obama Sued in Philadelphia Federal Court on Grounds he is Constitutionally Ineligible for the Presidency



by Jeff Schreiber
America's Right.com

A prominent Philadelphia attorney and Hillary Clinton supporter filed suit this afternoon in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania against Illinois Sen. Barack Obama and the Democratic National Committee.



The action seeks an injunction preventing the senator from continuing his candidacy and a court order enjoining the DNC from nominating him next week, all on grounds that Sen. Obama is constitutionally ineligible to run for and hold the office of President of the United States.

Phillip Berg, the filing attorney, is a former gubernatorial and senatorial candidate, former chair of the Democratic Party in Montgomery (PA) County, former member of the Democratic State Committee, and former Deputy Attorney General of Pennsylvania. According to Berg, he filed the suit--just days before the DNC is to hold its nominating convention in Denver--for the health of the Democratic Party.

"I filed this action at this time," Berg stated, "to avoid the obvious problems that will occur when the Republican Party raises these issues after Obama is nominated.".

Berg cited a number of unanswered questions regarding the Illinois senator's background, and in today's lawsuit maintained that Sen. Obama is not a naturalized U.S. citizen or that, if he ever was, he lost his citizenship when he was adopted in Indonesia. Berg also cites what he calls "dual loyalties" due to his citizenship and ties with Kenya and Indonesia.

Even if Sen. Obama can prove his U.S. citizenship, Berg stated, citing the senator's use of a birth certificate from the state of Hawaii verified as a forgery by three independent document forensic experts, the issue of "multi-citizenship with responsibilities owed to and allegiance to other countries" remains on the table.

In the lawsuit, Berg states that Sen. Obama was born in Kenya, and not in Hawaii as the senator maintains. Before giving birth, according to the lawsuit, Obama's mother traveled to Kenya with his father but was prevented from flying back to Hawaii because of the late stage of her pregnancy, "apparently a normal restriction to avoid births during a flight."



As Sen. Obama's own paternal grandmother, half-brother and half-sister have also claimed, Berg maintains that Stanley Ann Dunham--Obama's mother--gave birth to little Barack in Kenya and subsequently flew to Hawaii to register the birth.

Berg cites inconsistent accounts of Sen. Obama's birth, including reports that he was born at two separate hospitals--Kapiolani Hospital and Queens Hospital--in Honolulu, as well a profound lack of birthing records for Stanley Ann Dunham, though simple "registry of birth" records for Barack Obama are available in a Hawaiian public records office.

Should Sen. Obama truly have been born in Kenya, Berg writes, the laws on the books at the time of his birth hold that U.S. citizenship may only pass to a child born overseas to a U.S. citizen parent and non-citizen parent if the former was at least 19 years of age. Sen. Obama's mother was only 18 at the time. Therefore, because U.S. citizenship could not legally be passed on to him, Obama could not be registered as a "natural born" citizen and would therefore be ineligible to seek the presidency pursuant to Article II, Section 1 of the United States Constitution.

Moreover, even if Sen. Obama could have somehow been deemed "natural born," that citizenship was lost in or around 1967 when he and his mother took up residency in Indonesia, where Stanley Ann Dunham married Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian citizen. Berg also states that he possesses copies of Sen. Obama's registration to Fransiskus Assisi School In Jakarta, Indonesia which clearly show that he was registered under the name "Barry Soetoro" and his citizenship listed as Indonesian.

The Hawaiian birth certificate, Berg says, is a forgery. In the suit, the attorney states that the birth certificate on record is a forgery, has been identified as such by three independent document forensic experts, and actually belonged to Maya Kasandra Soetoro, Sen. Obama's half-sister.

"Voters donated money, goods and services to elect a nominee and were defrauded by Sen. Obama's lies and obfuscations," Berg stated. "If the DNC officers ... had performed one ounce of due diligence we would not find ourselves in this emergency predicament, one week away from making a person the nominee who has lost their citizenship as a child and failed to even perform the basic steps of regaining citizenship as prescribed by constitutional laws."

"It is unfair to the country," he continued, "for candidates of either party to become the nominee when there is any question of the ability to serve if elected."

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I asked my husband about the court case to do with Barak O'bummer...

He gave up his US citizenship voluntarily when he took on citizenship elsewhere...so he's not a citizen anymore.

You know, I can't stand when people use names like "Shrub" "Baby Bush" "King George", etc. to describe President Bush. I also can't stand when people do it with Hillary and call her Hitlerary. And I can't obide it with Obama either. These people are all in positions of authority and deserve a modicum of respect if for nothing else than that we respect God the father who allowed them to come to these positions.

The court case that is being ballyhooed, was started by a democrat, to eliminate the claims later during the election. We should fight the man based on his policies, voting record and his historical lies, people he has associated with in the past.

Proverbs 24:17-18 17 Rejoice not when thine enemy falleth, and let not thine heart be glad when he stumbleth: 18 Lest the LORD see it, and it displease him, and he turn away his wrath from him.
I think that if the oppression and attacks of man against another man can turn God's heart, then it can definitely turn other men's heart.

When I hear baseless attacks and rhetoric slung around from either side, all it does is set the other side at even greater odds with each other.

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I do not watch tv. Especially not the news.

But if Obama was not a naturalized US citizen, believe me, it would be McCain's first tactic against him, and it has not been. Therefore it cannot be true.

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You don't have to believe the article, but I am going to wait and see what happens. We might all be surprised to see Hillary as the nominee after all.

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At least the internet has some real conservative news if you look for it. Hard to find, but it's there. The TV doesn't have any truly conservative news.

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You know' date=' I can't stand when people use names like "Shrub" "Baby Bush" "King George", etc. to describe President Bush. I also can't stand when people do it with Hillary and call her Hitlerary. And I can't obide it with Obama either.[/quote']


Oh..c'mon zealyouthguy. :smile Except for the use of profane language, I will call Senator, Hillary Rodham Clinton...anything that I wish. This is a free country, afterall. That goes for anyone else, too. "Freedom of Speech"...remember. That is only your opinion. :thumb


MrsW...was only tying to be being funny on the account that it is "better to laugh than to cry." Can you lighten up, please? I found it quite humorous, Katey-Anne. :lol: :lol

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You don't have to believe the article' date=' but I am going to wait and see what happens. We might all be surprised to see Hillary as the nominee after all.[/quote']

Obama got the nomination last night.

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You don't have to believe the article' date=' but I am going to wait and see what happens. We might all be surprised to see Hillary as the nominee after all.[/quote']


This has been a suspicion of mine all along. I wouldn't put anything past the "Clinton Team." And, if it does come true...people will probably vote for her. This is unbelievable. Now, this would be "pure" ignorance, IMO.

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Goody...as long as Senator, Hillary Rodham Clinton didn't get it. :smile

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Remember, there is no such thing as "freedom of speech" on most hosted Bulletin boards. No matter how civil the discourse; if you disagree to vehemently you are going to be bumped!

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Oh. I know. I just don't think that he will become President Obama, is all. Everyone I talk to (and, I live in liberallville, USA) can't stand the guy. They seem to be leaning towards McCain.

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I think he's saying the Obama spies are gonna see what you wrote and come bump you off one of these nights. :lol:



Oh, that is all. I thought he was talking about something serious like Online Baptist bumping me off. :smile I can live with the Obama thought...the government knows more about us than we know about ourselves. "Big Brother" has been watching and listening for eons. I don't care. I will go to Heaven with my Jesus much sooner if Obama spies "bump" me off. I don't live in fear of that. NEVER!

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That was no veiled threat as I'm not a moderator; nor do I have any control on this or any other bulletin board. I was merely stating my opinion and observance. Which is, people talk much about "freedom of speech" when in fact they mean "freedom of speech as long as you agree with me and I don't want to discuss if it makes me uncomfortable." While I don't know, I suspect that may have happened even here in the past.

But I do kind of like the spy theory! Much more fun to have conspiracy theories....lol

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:thumb :cool trc. We are just being friendly is all. :smile I just don't like seeing a Sister in Christ get "rebuked" about something that, IMHO...is not that "big of a deal." I realize that zealyouthguy thought it was, though, and I respect that. I just haven't seen that in awhile. hehe. We are in the End Times...we gotta laugh and make light of some things. It has been a tough week on here, ya know? MrsW is a "regular" member and I was sticking up for her, is all. I do that. hehe. It is in my nature.


I love the "spy theory" too. Now, I can really get into "conspiracy theories." LOL. I like playing Sherlock Holmes. :lol:


BTW, I respect the president of the USA when they are in power. :smile I will behave myself, now. **Slapping my hands**

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I dunno' date=' there are more Obama stickers in our area than anyone else...he will win here I'm sure.[/quote']


WOW! We don't like him in Cleveland. HC won the state of OH...as you know. The Democrats are talking about voting for McCain. We'll see...


Although...HC did announce the 2 deaths 2 night's ago. She made a big deal out of her old friend...Stephanie Tubbs Jones. She was a Cleveland gal. I honestly don't know, now. :puzzled: It will probably be a "toss of the coin" here. People are very unsure...they actually say, "join the club" around here. LOL.

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Actually as Christian we have the freedom to refrain from speaking. You may find it humorous but I can guarantee you that a large percentage of the population wouldn't. The same way you wouldn't if they were talking about your pastor. You have the "right" to many things, but never get confused with the fact that you have the right to do it, as being that it's right to do.

Women have the right to an abortion also... but what does God say about it?

Besides, my main point was that we give sympathy to the ungodly when we mock them. Think about how many people feel sorry for anyone who godhatesfags goes to protest...

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Alright, I am just going to limit myself from too many political posts because I am fed up with the state of politics/religion and their ties.

I probably have been too serious (although I don't like the name calling as I've stated) so I will be the new ZYG with 80% less politics.

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I really don't understand where you are getting at with religion/politics actually...maybe our church just isn't one of the ones you are referring to.

I see them as fairly seperate actually, which is why I might be voting for McCain (depending on VP pick, haven't yet decided) in order to avoid Obama...because I'm not voting for a religious institution or a church, I'm trying to use my vote to keep as much freedom in this country as possible. Given the choices, there isn't a whole lot of hope, but Obama will have our freedoms gone within four years and at least the alternative should be more gradual.

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Besides' date=' my main point was that we give sympathy to the ungodly when we mock them. Think about how many people feel sorry for anyone who godhatesfags goes to protest...[/quote']


:goodpost::amen: I 100% agree with that one, ZYG. :thumb


They need to be drawn to Christ Not pushed away from Him. Yes! :smile

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