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I think the point Saintnow is making is being missed again. There is a thread a while back called replacement theology that discusses the same concept. You know the concept that satan makes us all miss all day, every day: He that loses his life in this world shall find it. Even the vast majority of IFB miss this concept completely. They get saved, THANK GOD, but then their discipleship is more along the lines of replacing all their past wasted time in what every lost and saved person knows is wickedness with a milder, less wicked versions of the same. OH, and don't forget to pray once a day and read a couple of lines out of your Bible and you will be living for the Lord - HA!. Porno replaced with the family channel or discovery and hollywood with pixar and disney. The exact same amount of personal time is wasted but since it does not SCREAM SATANIC, we think God approves.
Well, pilgrims, He don't approve.

I can only pray to get over this flesh and live it one day. The thing that I will never do is try to justify wasted time with statements like "God gave us this life to enjoy it while we are here" BALONY - I would ask someone to show me anywhere in the Word where Jesus says anything like this, but I already know it is not there.

The example of how believers are to live in is Acts but we still don't get it. They continued steadfastly in prayer and preaching daily. It doesn't mention entertainment outside of the church anywhere. It certainly would if we were allowed to write it though.

So pilgrims, we resemble the first century Christians when work, play, family time is completely centered around prayer, witnessing, serving and worshipping God. Everything else is of the world and is sin by and by. I have know a handful of believers over the years that would have fit in perfectly with the first century church. 99.9% are a hollow shell of those these days.

The same people keep clinging to their delusions of their replaced lives. If it is not of God, it is of the world period.

Live in the world, what choice you got - duh. Live for the world, that is a choice you got daily and most of us fail daily. We spend an hour in prayer and Bible study and 4-5 hours on the world's seemingly harmless entertainment. Sure guy, you are living for the Lord like that - NOT. Quit lying to yourselves.

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I have been having discussions with my wife of late on the life we lead. I married a woman with a farm. 80 acres, mostly sagebrush. We live in a donated single-wide mobile we moved out here, our power is off our solar, run by extension cords off the system, as the previous owner of the trailer had all the power hook-ups removed to recycle. No water, as the ancient pipes need to be replaced. Its not much fun, but livable.  We have a bunch of goats that cost us, just in alfalfa, better than $1200 per month, just about one of my paychecks. Of course, the plan is to get a bunch to auction, but currently all our vehicles are down and we are borrowing a truck until something gets fixed.

In over 30 years, 20 years of her own work, and ten with me, we have never made any sort of real, meaningful advances in our living situation. For quite a while we lived in the church parsonage, and paid rising utility bills, while also maintaining the farm.

On top of it, I work a full-time job and, of course, pastor the church. currently, due to her recent health issues, she is unemployed, and still weak, so I take care of a lot of the farm work. So, can anyone guess how much time I am able to give to the work of the church, not to mention anything else? Not much, between 10 hrs a day at my job, and seeing to the farm, repairing things, etc. We also have four large dogs, two of whom stay locked in a large pen, because, since our fenceline has never been finished due to finances, they roam too far and we can't trust them, so they just eat and poop and are nothing but a liability.

So, all this is really a big moneypit. We get essentially nothing out of it. If we have time and energy, we milk when they girls are in milk, (which of course then means more mouths to feed). Or we can slaughter, except our solar system can't yet handle a refrigerator to keep the meat, so we can't do that. So, my life is the farm, and little else.

The problem is, my wife cannot see it, not at all. She moved to the area years before she was saved, with a goal of being self-sufficient, off-grid. But since she came, she was never able to reach that goal, in 30+ years, not even with both of us working, when we did. And in that time, little progress has been made. And my argument with her in reconsidering her course is, when she got saved, did she ever stop and consider that the farm wasn't God's plan for her? Last night, I asked her, When you came here, unsaved, you wanted the farm, and she said, yeah. So I said, But since then, you were born again-and you have never even considered that, as a believer, this might not be God's plan for you? And she said, No. She just cannot even consider that it isn't. 30 years of abject failure, time and again, to build a farm, to actually BE self-sufficient, she just sees as Satan trying to discourage her. So I always counter, Well, Satan can only do what the Lord allows, so basically, God is the one discouraging you. If God really wanted you to succeed, don't you think He would have allowed it by now? And she gets mad and says I hate her farm and her and why don't I just get a divorce if I hate it so much-(we know how our ladies can be, amiright?) And I end up making no headway.   

The worst part is, I am NOT against a farm, but it just isn't working the way we are doing it, and it is keeping us from really serving the Lord as we should be. I asked her last night if there was some way we could compromise, keeping an aspect of the farm, but maybe having some civilization, as well, and of course, to her that means, dump everything and go live in a city somewhere-its all or nothing with her. And I understand-its a long-time dream for her. But where do you draw the line and say it isn't working this way?  My thought was, sell the goats, (for now), and maintain the chickens, rabbits, and turkeys and ducks, all of which we can eat and they produce eggs, but they don't have a high cost. The money we save on the goat feed, we use to build the fences and maybe buy a tractor. Then, in a year or two, when fences are all in place, we buy a few goats to begin the herd, but now we have fenced areas where they can roam and eat, saving us cost on their feed in the long-run. But no, she can't do that either.

Am I being mean? Unfeeling? I have even seen that her health gets worse and she gets depressed at not being able to care for her animals as she wants to, but to cut back enough to make it possible, is also untenable. Yes, I could just "be the MAN" and take control, but that would not go well, I suspect, especially since she bought the place, and she began it and worked it for 20 years before I came along. I just feel between a rock and a hard place.  And of course, where this fits with the op is, it is seriously interfering with my service to God, in the church and otherwise, because so much time, energy and money is being expended in the farm. She sees it as a potential ministry, should things get really bad, a place believers could come to live, and I get that, but if WE can't have some success in it, how can we help others?

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Well Ukulelemike if it were me i'd consider clearing part of that land and possibly turning part of it into a mobile home park.  There is infrustructure and a lot of other things to consider of course.  Northern California is where you live I guess.  I don't know the area at all just throwing that out there.  That would be interesting with solar you could even make the papers or get a big discount who knows lol.  Were messing with fence all the time posthole digger wire fence and of course posts.  Got a bunch of stuff growing to okra, corn squash.  I wouldn't necessarily consider owning 80 acres a drawback that's jut me though.  All kinds of interesting things commercial use.  Course the taxes on raw land are a drain.  Get something on there bringing in revenue if you can.  Like I say I don't know the area or particulars. 

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We are in NE California, all dry desert, sagebrush, coyotes and lizards and scorpions. We don't have the infrastructure to put in any money-making ventures like a mobile home park; our little town already has one and they can't fill their tiny park. I have thought about offering a corner to a local cellular company to put up a tower, as we have a clear open shot some 40 miles one way, maybe 20 the other way, and we have a small rise there as well. Mostly, of course, is getting the fencing up so the goats can wander and eat the various brushes we grow which would lower our alfalfa costs. We do have various plants, sagebrush, rabbit brush, bitter brush, desert peach, squaw tea and some others, and the goats love most of them, and they're very nutritious. Taxes aren't an issue due to prop 13, which keeps them from raising taxes on land unless there are upgrades, though none of our things will be considered as such. Also no one knows where we are, or cares right now.

We have a nice garden area, though not growing much right now due to my wife's recent health issues. Also need to clean up the area a bit so we can expand. Going to raise some fences on an unused area to build a turkey enclosure-can't let them roam because the dogs kill them. But I have an area big enough to raise a good dozen birds on, which we will use for eggs and meat. Also expand the rabbit and chicken areas. See, we could live off the birds and rabbits fairly well-we get roughly10-15 eggs each day right now, and are getting another ten young chickens soon-enough to eat eggs till they are coming out of our ears, AND give them away by the 18-pack, two or three per week. So that's sort of a successful ministry. Just those goats break the bank due to the price of alfalfa, as well as rice bran and other supplements for optimal health.

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We are in NE California, all dry desert, sagebrush, coyotes and lizards and scorpions. We don't have the infrastructure to put in any money-making ventures like a mobile home park; our little town already has one and they can't fill their tiny park. I have thought about offering a corner to a local cellular company to put up a tower, as we have a clear open shot some 40 miles one way, maybe 20 the other way, and we have a small rise there as well. Mostly, of course, is getting the fencing up so the goats can wander and eat the various brushes we grow which would lower our alfalfa costs. We do have various plants, sagebrush, rabbit brush, bitter brush, desert peach, squaw tea and some others, and the goats love most of them, and they're very nutritious. Taxes aren't an issue due to prop 13, which keeps them from raising taxes on land unless there are upgrades, though none of our things will be considered as such. Also no one knows where we are, or cares right now.

We have a nice garden area, though not growing much right now due to my wife's recent health issues. Also need to clean up the area a bit so we can expand. Going to raise some fences on an unused area to build a turkey enclosure-can't let them roam because the dogs kill them. But I have an area big enough to raise a good dozen birds on, which we will use for eggs and meat. Also expand the rabbit and chicken areas. See, we could live off the birds and rabbits fairly well-we get roughly10-15 eggs each day right now, and are getting another ten young chickens soon-enough to eat eggs till they are coming out of our ears, AND give them away by the 18-pack, two or three per week. So that's sort of a successful ministry. Just those goats break the bank due to the price of alfalfa, as well as rice bran and other supplements for optimal health.

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Yea a lot of churches put cell towers on their property.  Road access?  Another words roads near the property.  Looks kind of cool I have never even seen a desert in person.  I guess you could look on the internet for commercial use get it zoned if someone is interested or part of it.  Thats usually what they want first.  Then they can just setup.  If you take the trouble to do that with 80 acres that leaves a few different uses I guess. lol Ukulelemike if that didn't work I'd be out there looking for gold or minerals.   Those chickens are always hard at work we switched over to free range chickens.  

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Yeah, thought about subdividing it, 20/60, selling the 20 to someone, and using the money to work on our 60, but it costs $5,000.00 just to have someone go on a computer and draw new lines. Of course, they have to come out and do the measurements and mark it all, but still, we'd be lucky to get $5,000 for that space.

We live down roughly 4 miles of dirt, like in the picture, before you get to a paved road. No electrical access, or plumbing, nearer than about 2 miles, making the cost for those almost prohibitive. We live on a well, with all solar, which we are for some reason having issues with. We have a battery bank of ten batteries, all new within a year, but suddenly, after a day of bright sunshine, our batteries aren't holding a charge and the power goes off like an hour after they panels aren't getting sun. Ten batteries should give us lights and TV all night, as well as powering the computers, but it suddenly stopped working right. This is one of my issues: things just keep breaking for some reason. For no good reason, cars, the power system, our fridge, just, boom, nothing. Its a continual rush of repairs and replacements, again, lots of money.

By the way, Potatochip, where do you live that you've never seen a desert in person? I'll have to post more pics-it can actually be quite beautiful, especially in spring if we have had a good wet winter. Lots of wildflowers and such.

These are some of the goats, by the way, on our farm, in a temporarily expanded area. We used electric wire, which has the problem of not working well in a dry environment with goats, because they don't ground out very well, hence, don't get shocked. Works okay if the ground is wet, but that's not often. The structures off in the background are warehouses on the Army depot where I work.

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Yeah, thought about subdividing it, 20/60, selling the 20 to someone, and using the money to work on our 60, but it costs $5,000.00 just to have someone go on a computer and draw new lines. Of course, they have to come out and do the measurements and mark it all, but still, we'd be lucky to get $5,000 for that space.

We live down roughly 4 miles of dirt, like in the picture, before you get to a paved road. No electrical access, or plumbing, nearer than about 2 miles, making the cost for those almost prohibitive. We live on a well, with all solar, which we are for some reason having issues with. We have a battery bank of ten batteries, all new within a year, but suddenly, after a day of bright sunshine, our batteries aren't holding a charge and the power goes off like an hour after they panels aren't getting sun. Ten batteries should give us lights and TV all night, as well as powering the computers, but it suddenly stopped working right. This is one of my issues: things just keep breaking for some reason. For no good reason, cars, the power system, our fridge, just, boom, nothing. Its a continual rush of repairs and replacements, again, lots of money.

Yep it would be out on the internet if it was me investigating everything I could to make that work.  May not be there of course.  I have no idea about the area.  Probably a lot of available land around there.  If I was a very serious farmer I would be in Kansas or Missouri doing that.  Soil is ideal for everything in many parts of those places. Also the rainfall that always seems to be there.  Where I am you can chip away at farming and the soil isn't all that good.  Certain things come in every once and a while.  With the way the weather goes there is no guarantee.   So most people keep it small.   Raising horses is interesting too they do a lot of that around here.  You may have to go somewhere to buy them.  But a lot of people deal in them.  I've been thinking about planting fruit trees I don't know how they would do where you are.  You have well water of course. 

I live in Georgia.  Near Atlanta.  Interesting Army depot.  Usually with military you have a housing demand.  I would guess its a smaller depot.  If it were me I would find out what they need.  We had goats at one point strange looking animal.  lol.  I think about the Bible in reference to goats.  We have electric too off a battery.  I don't know anything about that solar stuff.  I have seen near Vegas and places like that they set up all kinds of solar panels to power places.  I saw that in a movie once.  Big operations too.  Nope never been near a desert and west of the Mississippi only once.  I like flat land I live where there are a lot of hills and more trees than you could imagine in one place GA and AL are like that TN, SC and into northern FL you can't see anything past the road for the trees.  Dense woods.   

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Mike,

Have you tried any sheep?

Who owns the mineral rights on your property?

 

Good point heartstrings. I think about the desert.  Abraham always comes to mind lol.  I always wondered about that.  Another thing is venison.  I guess they like alfalfa I don't know.  Grocery stores don't have that.  They just started with the bison meat not to long ago.  Could be Bambi.  Could be Esau.  I can't figure out why they don't have it available.  So I don't know lol.  Maybe you need a really high fence.  I can't guess it. 

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Godliness VS Worldliness, Holiness VS Ungodly or Worldly or Carnal, Obedience VS Grace (heretical form of grace which is not God's grace, but rather fleshly indulgence)..Laying up treasures in Heaven VS Loving the things of the world.....

I wonder how this will go over here.  Most Christians I have encountered are living according to heretical teachings of God's grace which is not God's grace at all.  They excuse themselves for personal indulgences of ungodly things claiming that God's grace makes it ok.

There is nothing holy or Godly about Bugs Bunny, but many Christians love Bugs Bunny and promote him as something good when he is nothing but wicked.  So what do you think?  Heaven forbid that we mention women in pants on stage leading the men as something worldly.

 

Curious. Where does this come into Biblical discussion?

You deem Bugs Bunny as wicked?

Is 'slapstick' style humor wicked?

You could probably pick something a little bit more 'wicked' than that couldn't you?

I don't know of any Christians that focus on Bugs Bunny as being a role model at all. Nor do I find that Christians even mention Bugs Bunny anywhere.

I think false doctrine brings about wickedness in Christians, and that is the result of being 'weak' in spiritual strength, for lack of wisdom from the word of God.

Bugs Bunny, nor any other cartoon character, is not the problem - false teachings affect lives more than any type of entertainment.

You deem Bugs Bunny as godly?  you deem slapstick humor as godly?  I don't recall anything godly about The Three Stooges or Laurel and Hardy, do you?  I think the problem is that most Christians today do not know the difference between Godly and worldly.  Bugs Bunny is nothing but worldly at best, wicked and carnal at worst.  Jesus called his own disciples "evil", and you think Bugs Bunny is better?  Please.....tell me more of your false doctrine in support of Bugs Bunny and slapstick humor.

take your stick in the mudd back to Bugs Bumny and see if Bugs will join you for your Bible study...I sure won't

The Bible clearly teaches that time is not to be wasted at all, and you are trying to make excuses for wasting it.  Go talk to Bugs Bunny who you won't feel so insulting toward as you are insulting toward me.

Help me out here, because I am truly confused about why you're making such a big deal about Bugs Bunny, of all things. Why such a disdain for a set of cartoons and tv shows that have pretty much fallen off the air? Surely there are more important, more influential, and more ungodly things to take issue with right?

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Mike,

Have you tried any sheep?

Who owns the mineral rights on your property?

 

Good point heartstrings. I think about the desert.  Abraham always comes to mind lol.  I always wondered about that.  Another thing is venison.  I guess they like alfalfa I don't know.  Grocery stores don't have that.  They just started with the bison meat not to long ago.  Could be Bambi.  Could be Esau.  I can't figure out why they don't have it available.  So I don't know lol.  Maybe you need a really high fence.  I can't guess it. 

We have a couple sheep, Icelandics. The problem is, sheep are grazers, while goats are browsers. We don't get a lot of grass, as opposed to a lot of bush, which are preferred by the goats. For sheep we'd need a good tractor to knock down all the sagebrush and replant with pasture grass. But we don't have good enough water for that-need a much bigger, stronger pump for that, hence much more power, being on solar.

Mineral rights, well, its a little complicated. technically, the people who sold the land to my wife retained the mineral rights, but they are dead and there are no kids, so, I guess us.

As for venison, well, we have deer, here, but we can eat our goats-just need a way to keep the meat, which we don't have right now. Thought about building a smoke house, to slow smoke the meat, like they used to before refrigeration. Build something large enough to hang a couple goats in, let them sit and smoke, take what we need when we need it, leave the rest there.

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We have a couple sheep, Icelandics. The problem is, sheep are grazers, while goats are browsers. We don't get a lot of grass, as opposed to a lot of bush, which are preferred by the goats. For sheep we'd need a good tractor to knock down all the sagebrush and replant with pasture grass. But we don't have good enough water for that-need a much bigger, stronger pump for that, hence much more power, being on solar.

Mineral rights, well, its a little complicated. technically, the people who sold the land to my wife retained the mineral rights, but they are dead and there are no kids, so, I guess us.

As for venison, well, we have deer, here, but we can eat our goats-just need a way to keep the meat, which we don't have right now. Thought about building a smoke house, to slow smoke the meat, like they used to before refrigeration. Build something large enough to hang a couple goats in, let them sit and smoke, take what we need when we need it, leave the rest there.

They used to salt meat in the past and hang it in the sun to dry.

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brother Mike your wife may be right the lord may have you right where he He plans on using you and when the time does come His blessings will follow ,it may easy for me to say this because I'm not you but I have been in the very same condition before lve had to learn to serve on very little with 6 children many times not eating so my children could it seemed the harder I worked the harder it would get many times I tried to figure why these things continued to happen my faith in the lord was completely on Him yet I did not realize just how the Lord was working on my family and I until 2000 when I was in a accident rendering me disabled I knew God was preparing our family for the Storm ahead of us ,which indeed it came hard as I was unable to care for my wife and children this time,yet my faith in the Lord was totally upon Him ,my faith never faltered though it seemed as though the battle had overcome me a much needed time of rest.not long after this storm came a hurricane ,i had received a large amount of money from the accident , in which we where able to buy a house and replace a lot off what we had lost ,one morning my wife went the bank and there was no money in our account we where broke , brother this was the most hardest thing i had to ever face ,even now it hurts , it was not the loss of our money but in the way which we lost it , i was in shook when a police officer came to our home and told us that our pastor had been arrested for this crime as well as taking money from the church , today he is in prison and we have never recoverd our loss, but in my heart he has been forgiven ,i pray for him and his family each day. right now I'm resting un our Lords peace and continue in His work .brother i know that the Lord has made me whom i am today he has given me something far greater than money or material things his unending love and mercy has prepared me for what we may have to face before He returns ,brother how blessed we are to suffer for our Savior Jesus,you are in my prayers that the Lord may give you a time of rest

We are to pray,to support, to help our brothers and sisters in the lord when storms come, and when we fail to do so, we have not the love of Jesus in our hearts

 

Loving you my brother with the love of Jesus from my heart.

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The Grace of God is the expression of His goodness toward the undeserving ,Grace means unmerited favor and can be expressed by the Acrostic Gods riches at Christ's expense,this grace is the basis of our salvation , men who deserve hell obtain heaven.every conversion in Scripture is and example of Gods Grace,man owes his salvation to Grace or undeserved divine favor.we need to remember that we are saved,given the Holy Spirit and allowed to serve God, by His Grace.

 

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Not bad I guess, but I like the way it's put in Titus 2 better...quoting from memory so pardon me for missing a word or two and not using the exact verse reference....

The grace of God which bringeth salvation hath appeared unto all men (by grace are ye saved, lost people are experiencing God's grace but they don't know it) teaching us (us who are saved by grace are taught by grace how to act in obedience to God) that denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, in this present world......

 

Far too many Christians today want to interpret God's grace as an excuse for unholy indulgences like Bug's Bunny and Looney Tunes Cartoons.  God's grace is for living holy lives serving God no matter how much it costs us or how difficult the trials........worldly Christians claiming they are acting in God's grace when in reality they are only satisfying their own lusts.

 

 

My favorites were the Roadrunner and Chip&Dale

 

I've renounce them all....road runner had some perversion laced in with the jokes......there was nothing holy or godly about Roadrunner.  I didn't watch Chip and Dale, but they were probably anti-Christ the same as Roadrunner.

 

 

 

Help me out here, because I am truly confused about why you're making such a big deal about Bugs Bunny, of all things. Why such a disdain for a set of cartoons and tv shows that have pretty much fallen off the air? Surely there are more important, more influential, and more ungodly things to take issue with right?

yes......for you, a more important, more influential, and more ungodly thing to take issue with would be your attitude in your response.....

I don't think you want me to help you out, you could understand if you wanted but you only want to insult me so to you I say bye.

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I think we have a bunch of Bugs Bunny fans here who don't want to admit their love for an ungodly and unholy show, so they go on and on and on talking about their personal worldly interests to avoid discussing Godliness VS Worldliness, Holiness VS Self-serving, Spiritual VS Carnal.

I have some strong brothers I go street preaching with.  Strong in the Lord.  That really helps.  It's a life dedicated to The Kingdom of Heaven nothing else before God.  We get together and get out there 2 or 3 times a week sometimes for 4 to 8 hours or even more.  We soulwin together eat and fellowship together.  I'll admit I am really, really blessed.  Very thankful for what I have.  I have known these guys for years from soulwinning.  They too shun TV.  They don't go in for that kind of entertainment at all.  We go everywhere  from the gang areas to the trendy new age neighborhoods.  Events we possibly have Mexico coming to town for the soccer finals lol.  I am loaded down with spanish tracts for that one.  55k tickets have already been sold.  Try Fellowship tract league.  For a modest donation I think its $7.50c for a thousand tracts they ship you too.  Really nice tracts with the gospel.  I drop them off at drive thru windows.  Give them to people on the street at the store etc.  I just say can I give you something to read or here.  They mostly take it some say no thanks.  I go alone to when there is no one else to go with me.  Doesn't bother me.  I hand tracts out and talk with people sometimes for 4 hours.  It gets exhausting in the hot Georgia Sun.  But so satisfying.   

I wonder why I'm the only person who liked what you shared here.  There sure is a lot of boring chatter going on here about personal worldly pleasures and attachments.

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Not bad I guess, but I like the way it's put in Titus 2 better...quoting from memory so pardon me for missing a word or two and not using the exact verse reference....

The grace of God which bringeth salvation hath appeared unto all men (by grace are ye saved, lost people are experiencing God's grace but they don't know it) teaching us (us who are saved by grace are taught by grace how to act in obedience to God) that denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, in this present world......

 

Far too many Christians today want to interpret God's grace as an excuse for unholy indulgences like Bug's Bunny and Looney Tunes Cartoons.  God's grace is for living holy lives serving God no matter how much it costs us or how difficult the trials........worldly Christians claiming they are acting in God's grace when in reality they are only satisfying their own lusts.

 

 

 

I've renounce them all....road runner had some perversion laced in with the jokes......there was nothing holy or godly about Roadrunner.  I didn't watch Chip and Dale, but they were probably anti-Christ the same as Roadrunner.

 

yes......for you, a more important, more influential, and more ungodly thing to take issue with would be your attitude in your response.....

I don't think you want me to help you out, you could understand if you wanted but you only want to insult me so to you I say bye.

Brother could to further explain what you mean by heretical teachings of Gods grace which is not Gods Grace at All.I know not of any teachings of this in the IB church here

as far as bugs bunny I haven't had a TV in 20 years and when I had one it collected dust . God took me behind the woodshied when I was but a young Christian and in doing so put me on a path for 35 years in which at times I have faltered yet not once has God faltered in changing me and at 64 He continues to do so and will until he calls me home,amen

God bless brother

 

 

 

 

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If I am understanding correctly, the issue with Bugsenheimer Bunny, is the idea that Christians ought to be concerned about the little worldly things, as much as the big ones, because worldly is worldly, no matter if they are big, rock n roll, tattoos, booze, etc, or small, ie, 'harmless' like Bugs Bunny.

I used to like Andy Griffith-the show seems so down-home and well, nice. But as a Christian and an adult, I am less and less liking it, on the rare occasion I see one. Andy tend to lie to Opie and Barney and even Aunt Bea an awful lot to keep from hurting their feelings, of hurting himself. And of course, hilarity ensues, but as far as I can see, it just kind of teaches that lying is okay in some cases. Also, what's the deal with Opie's mother? maybe I have missed it, but is she ever even mentioned at all? Andy seems to have this steady stream of pretty admirers, poor Opie must be confused.  No, it really seems to smack of a heavy worldly philosophy. And even the Beverly Hillbillies, they are shown as being decent, old-fashioned God-fearing folks, except God, church, the Bible, etc are never once mentioned anywhere. Sunday is always soap-making day, or planting day, or some-such. 

So herein is the lesson: its the little things that will tend to bite us more than others. What COULD we be doing while we watch Bugs Bunny, or the Stooges, or whatever? Are we redeeming the time for the Lord? This is something that recently in my own life, as I have considered all my life, and much of what I have written herein, that is more and more becoming plain. I'm just not doing much for God, not nearly as much as I should be, and I see the results all around me. I have shut off the Dish network some time back, and set up a local antenna, and now I don't even watch that-the TV sits mostly unused. Watch out for the little, harmless things. Bugs Bunny is not evil, per se, but he;'s a waste of time, time we don't get back. Wood, hay and stubble.  

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    yes......for you, a more important, more influential, and more ungodly thing to take issue with would be your attitude in your response.....

I don't think you want me to help you out, you could understand if you wanted but you only want to insult me so to you I say bye.

Whaaat? I asked an honest question trying to understand why you find something so irrelevant to be so "unholy" that you need to label it "anti-Christ." Seriously, I just wanted to know what your issue is with Looney Toons of all things. I wasn't agreeing or disagreeing with any of it. I just don't understand why you're making such an issue about something that very few people even think about anymore, much less actively care about. Are you always this combative?

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