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The Vietnamese were defending their country, so had extra reason to fight.  The US were fighting a foreign war to prop up a corrupt and brutal Roman Catholic dictatorship.  The UK, on paper should have lost the war before the US got involved.  I was seven when the war ended, and I remember the German bombers flying over.  I can remember my mum saying when aircraft flew overhead, "That's one of ours." or "That's one of theirs." just from the sound of their engines.  She said later, "If Hitler knew how weak we were, he would have come."  In spite of Churchill's "We will fight them on the beaches." speech.   The Luftwaffe had been bombing the RAF airfields to try to destroy the RAF' capability to defend our country.  (We lived about a mile from a fighter base, so we saw some of the action.)   What saved us was a German bomber dropping a bomb on London.  The RAF bombed Berlin in retaliation.  This so incensed Hitler that he changed his targets to English cities.  This enabled us to build up the RAF.

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I'm not following a teaching other than the Bible which clearly teaches God deals with nations according to how they treat Israel.   I watched the events on the news when they were happening and I knew what was happening probably before Cahn did.  I didn't need any Shemita stuff then to see it and I don't need it now.  America was provoking God by pressuring Israel, and He allowed America to by hit by Israel's enemies.   America's leaders quoted the same defiance against God's warning as the Jews did in Isaiah 9 and they provoked God by so doing and have not repented and God is warning of the serious answer He is going to give them if they don't repent and start fearing God again.

What in the world are you following?  The insides of your eyelids?

I also follow the scriptures, and I know that when Israel was in their land centuries ago, God never took care of them and destroyed their enemies when they were disobedient and unbelieving. Why would he now. God does not fight for the hateful followers of Judaism, nor does he affect 'Israel's' enemies for being against them when 'Israel' is in a lost state as they are now. No matter who is in the land right now, Jews or one's who call themselves Jews but aren't, they are not followers of the Lord. That makes them not his chosen. And since there is not a Christian nation on the Earth right now, God defends no people but his. And his people are called sons of the Living God. We know them as born-again Christians.

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I also follow the scriptures, and I know that when Israel was in their land centuries ago, God never took care of them and destroyed their enemies when they were disobedient and unbelieving. Why would he now. God does not fight for the hateful followers of Judaism, nor does he affect 'Israel's' enemies for being against them when 'Israel' is in a lost state as they are now. No matter who is in the land right now, Jews or one's who call themselves Jews but aren't, they are not followers of the Lord. That makes them not his chosen. And since there is not a Christian nation on the Earth right now, God defends no people but his. And his people are called sons of the Living God. We know them as born-again Christians.

Absolutely,

God called Nebuchadnezzar "My servant" when he called him to destroy Jerusalem.

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And why don't people pay attention to how the Lord blessed America for supporting 'Israel' Jews?

We lost Korean War.

We lost Vietnam War.

We took the Bible and prayer out of schools.

We legalized abortion.

Our Presidents lie.

The list goes on!

So please, tell me how the Lord blesses those that support 'Israel'?

Oh! Wait! I know! The times we were in disobedience to supporting 'Israel' are when these things happened, right?

Then what blessings were there when we did support the lost nation of 'Israel'?

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America does not need any foreign power invading it to assure America's destruction.  America's destruction is being assured by it's own citizens. . . . the few who control the government and the many who vote for the leaders the powerful recommend to the voters. The few who run things are not Americans at heart they are citizens of the world. They have many places they will run to when the nation falls.  

They are such arrogant fools.  They forget that God said in so many words "You can run but you can't hide."                                                                                                         Job 34:21-22  "For his eyes are upon the ways of man, and he seeth all his goings.  There is no darkness, nor shadow of death, where the workers of iniquity may hide themselves."  KJV

 

 

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Who or what is "Israel" in these new covenant in Jesus' blood days? Obviously not the country that claims the name, but totally rejects the Messiah, the LORD Jesus Christ. 

why are you the only person here who has problems understanding what we are saying when we way "Israel"?  I never had a problem with that word, never had a problem understanding what it means any place it is used in the Bible, never had a problem understanding what it means when it is used in the news or by anybody in the world.  The only place I would have trouble understanding the word "Israel" would be when somebody like you is using it because you are confused about it and all I'll get from you is confusion.

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God called Nebuchadnezzar "My servant" when he called him to destroy Jerusalem.

He's teaching heresy.  God will deal with nations according to how they treat the Jews if the Jews are wicked or ungodly.  God will deal with individuals according to Jesus Christ.

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God called Nebuchadnezzar "My servant" when he called him to destroy Jerusalem.

Israel is still the apple of God's eye.  Jerusalem is still the holy city of God, and Jesus Christ will rule the world from Mt. Zion, the names of the twelve elders of the tribes of Israel hold equal place with the names of the twelve apostles in Revelation.  You are teaching Christian anti-Semitism and it's evil.  Christians should always be on the side of Israel.  Any nation that is against Israel is against God.  Any Christian who does not support Israel and the Jews is invoking God's punishment on themselves.  If the Jews are not right with God, God will deal with them.  Any nation that mistreats Israel and/or the Jews will be punished for it.  By making blanket statements seeking to throw all Jews to the lions, you are provoking God to punish you.

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Israel is still the apple of God's eye.  Jerusalem is still the holy city of God, and Jesus Christ will rule the world from Mt. Zion, the names of the twelve elders of the tribes of Israel hold equal place with the names of the twelve apostles in Revelation.  You are teaching Christian anti-Semitism and it's evil.  Christians should always be on the side of Israel.  Any nation that is against Israel is against God.  Any Christian who does not support Israel and the Jews is invoking God's punishment on themselves.  If the Jews are not right with God, God will deal with them.  Any nation that mistreats Israel and/or the Jews will be punished for it.  By making blanket statements seeking to throw all Jews to the lions, you are provoking God to punish you.

I am not teaching antisemitism, I just quoted the scripture, seems the scripture is not good enough for you.

Jer 25:9  Behold, I will send and take all the families of the north, saith the LORD, and Nebuchadrezzar the king of Babylon, my servant, and will bring them against this land, and against the inhabitants thereof, and against all these nations round about, and will utterly destroy them, and make them an astonishment, and an hissing, and perpetual desolations.

 

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I got an email yesterday from a feller telling me I needed to prepare the 7th shemitah was going to take place on September 3 2015 he said that the bible clearly proves this an quoted " for six years sow your fields and six years prune your vineyards and gather their crops, but in the seventh year the land is to a year of Sabbath rest a Sabbath to the Lord. I don't think he knew he was quoting Lev 25:3, he stated that no preacher or anyone could figure out what it really means, read 25:1-18 it reveals alot. He said that I needed to know how to prepare or ill not make it, and he was going to show me how, "" for a price " well I returned his email to let him no I was prepared and would like to help him prepare for free, I told him God had a free gift for him in which I shared the gospel with him, I've not heard back yet but praying I will .

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The Shemita was for national Israel... not for Gentile Churches.

 

That said, there are many predictions around the world that the Rapture will take place in late September immediately on the heels of the Shemita.  For the sake of all those making and teaching the date of the Rapture, I hope they are right.  Otherwise, they will all prove themselves to be false prophets.

 

we should never set dates.  Looking for a date for the Rapture takes focus off of the fact that Christ could return any moment.

They will all be proved wrong but it probably won't hinder their book sales or their ministries as far as I have seen.

I am not convinced there will be a rapture, but if there is it will probably be the remnant of believing Israel in Jerusalem when The Lord returns and the elemental particles of the earth will pass away with a roar and melt with fervent heat. flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom, we already have an inner spiritual man, There is only one passage in the whole Bible which sounds like it might be a mass salvation/rapture and that is open to interpretation.

It is easier to prove from scripture that the resurrection started about 2000 years ago and has been under way ever since.

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Saintnow you seem to specialise in contradiction, what do you mean by the following statement?

>>>>and anybody who observed the warning signs of Hitler's intentions, rise to power, and actions was wicked and like the foolish virgins who required a sign to believe in God.  Anybody who sees signs from God in current events needs to repent and learn to live by faith and not by sight.<<<

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Too many Christians, especially secular, weak, immature and those unwittingly in such churches, as well as many others, aren't satisfied with what Scripture actually says. Rather than believe and live as Christ commands, they constantly look for the sensational, something new, something exciting, something popular. This keeps the hucksters, false preachers, mystics and others in good business.

These people latch on to the latest "new and exciting revelation", buy all they can on the topic while authors and book sellers rush to provide more for them to buy. Then when the "new and exciting" starts wearing off there is something else to take its place.

A few off the top of my head are: the Promise Keepers movement, Left Behind series, Purpose Driven Life, Prayer of Jabez, Four Blood Moons. There have been many more and will continue to be many more until Christ returns.

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There are many good, biblically sound refutations of this whole contemporary shemitah, blood moon, Cahn and associated stuff online and elsewhere.

I'm sure you are right there John, I won't even bother listening to the video, there is so much utter junk out there coming from satanic infiltration of the church, and I have had my fill of looking into it right now.. I know there are allot of Kabalistic and Theosophic manifestations in the form of Pro Israel teachings aimed at Judaising the Church mostly from within, I think it might have been Alice Bailey who published her plan for this, I know that followers of Lucifer have published how they planned to use the Church along with Masonry and the Public education system to promote their teachings and bring about their new age. I believe MANY oculists will spend their lifetime professing Christianity and being active in the churches in order to destroy any true work of God and they use every trick under the sun.

I do believe that God will deal with a faithful remnant of Israel, after the time of the gentiles, Allot of Gentiles seem pretty near utter rejection of Christ right now.

I have heard it said that all Mystery teachings (lucferian darkness) has been influenced or is rooted in Kabalism. I looked into the Occult and Secret Societies for years, and have come to the conclusion it is almost like a universal manifestation of the Unholy spirit of Antichrist, there are so many organisations rooted in the occult or influenced by it, that it is like weeds growing all over the garden. But Christ is our Saviour and he knows how to deal with them, for now they are his vessels of wrath.

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I think it was pretty obvious that it was sarcastic.  If you didn't specialize in insanity, you would have caught that.  The warning signs of Hitler's intentions and the danger he would bring were clear, and God is sending clear warning signs today to a nation that has turned it's back on God.  I was being sarcastic toward people who basically say "ignore all the signs, there is no such thing as a warning sign from God, live by faith and not by looking at the signs".  I think all the debate about Schmemita and Fajita is just confusion promoted by devils to keep God's people from uniting in service for the gospel to bring a movement of deep repentance and Holy Ghost filled revival, the only thing that can turn back the judgment that is coming against America and the chaos that will increase in the world when America falls.  I think it's more than obvious that we are very near to the end of the age when the trumpet of the Lord will sound and the dead in Christ shall rise first, then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them to meet the Lord in the air....

Now I'm seeing that most people who do nothing but reject all warning signs are people with weird ideas about the resurrection and the rapture.  It explains a lot of the confusion and the refusal of people to acknowledge the obvious hand of God in recent historical events that are so obviously God's warning you have to be blind not to see it.

Now I realize why people only want to trash Cahn, who I really don't care about, but they refuse to look at the obvious facts which cannot be denied, and the handwriting of God on the wall in those facts.  The guy who was trying to tell people at my church that our Pastor was wrong for not preaching that we should be stockpiling and preparing for battle also believe that we are in the tribulation and the resurrection started or was completed or is continuing from 2000 yrs ago....weird stuff that is not based in reality or the Bible.  I didn't realize this thread would be a circus for so many people with messed up and unbiblical beliefs or I would have stayed out of it.

 

 

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 Mat. 12:39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:  

 

Luke 11:29  And when the people were gathered thick together, he began to say, This is an evil generation: they seek a sign; and there shall no sign be given it, but the sign of Jonas the prophet.

 

 Mark 8:12 And he sighed deeply in his spirit, and saith, Why doth this generation seek after a sign? verily I say unto you, There shall no sign be given unto this generation.

 Rom. 1:17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith. 

Jim while I suspect some here are being misled by false signs probably created by the Kabalists because they use dates and numbers and other symbols, and they spend most of their effort misinterpreting Scripture because they follow Lucifer and so realise that we as Christians are their enemy. we also need to consider Biblical signs, for example;

Mt 24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us,

when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
Mt 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
Mt 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
Mt 24:6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
Mt 24:7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
Mt 24:8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.
Mt 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
Mt 24:10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
Mt 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
Mt 24:12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
Mt 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
Mt 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
Mt 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
Mt 24:16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
Mt 24:17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
Mt 24:18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
Mt 24:19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
Mt 24:20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
Mt 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
Mt 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
Mt 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
Mt 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
Mt 24:25 Behold, I have told you before.
Mt 24:26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
Mt 24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Mt 24:28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
Mt 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
Mt 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Mt 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Mt 24:32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:
Mt 24:33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.
Mt 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
Mt 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
Mt 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
Mt 24:37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Mt 24:38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
Mt 24:39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be................

Perhaps those verses you quoted are specific to those people at that time, because they had Jesus with them and all they wanted was proof.

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Notice the conclusion of the matter from Jesus:

Mt 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
Mt 24:37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Mt 24:38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
Mt 24:39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be................

Everything will be going on as if all things are the same old, same old. We've been warned the end is coming, just as the people of Noah's day were warned, but people didn't see any signs of such being true so they went about their lives as usual. The same today, people have been warned for about 2,000 years now the end is coming but with no signs this is actually upon us the people pay no heed and go about life as usual.

When Christ returns people will be surprised. Even the faithful won't know His return is upon us, but the faithful will be living with the expectation Christ could return at any moment so we need to be about His business now.

Scripture is filled with more than enough to make it clear that Christ is returning and He could return at any moment. No sign or announcement from heaven is needed. We've been warned. Followers of Christ are to share that warning.

Those looking for signs often eventually become disappointed and backslide or fall away. So many "signs" throughout the centuries have been pointed to and yet Christ did not return, the end of the world didn't happen, many peoples hearts grew disillusioned and disheartened from the "signs" not proving true. The Black Death, WWI, Nazi Germany, nuclear bombs, Soviet Union, EU, and more weather related happenings than can be numbered along with a host of other events have all been pointed to as the sign or signs Christ would be here any day now.

Many folks got caught up in all the Cold War "signs" which were followed by the Left Behind craze and now after hearing look here, now look here, no, now look at this, and yet none of the predictions come true, the signs come and go, many hearts have waxed cold. This is one of the reasons for the growing trend of Christians moving away from the pre-trib rapture view to other views.

It's like the boy crying wolf over and over again so that many people today have hearts hardened not only to the sign pointers messages, but often even to the true Word of God being proclaimed about the return of Christ and coming end.

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  I didn't realize this thread would be a circus for so many people with messed up and unbiblical beliefs or I would have stayed out of it.

Then leave. Nobody is forcing you to read the comments here. I think being a nut is contageous. Why, look at yourself, you already have a hard shell...;)

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To all,

I knew this post would draw much condemnation. I have lived though many times of shemita reward and judgment at our family quarry. I would tell people that if our business got a great job the economy was going to crash. The last one was a mall construction job. I never knew why it was happening untill I read Jonathan Cahn's Mystery of the Shemita.

To all you visitors it is likely that the economy is about to crash again because September will be the end of the shemita year again.

By the way I am bidding on the largest job that I have bid on in seven years. If we get it look out!

Don't try to tell me there is nothing to the shemita, I have lived it.

 

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