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Hitler was a RC and was put in power by the RCC.  He never won an election, just got enough seats for the Pope to order the Catolic party to vote him as Chancelor, then ordered the Catholic Party, the Zentrum, to disband. Hitler's deputy, Franz von Pappen  was the Pope's Chamberlain.  After the war von Pappen should have been executed as a war criminal but the Pope got him off and gave him a top job in the Vatican.  Is the Pope behind the events in America?  The EU, the fourth Reich, is gaining by stealth what the third Reich, The Kaiser, Napoleon and Charlemagne tried by war.  

and anybody who observed the warning signs of Hitler's intentions, rise to power, and actions was wicked and like the foolish virgins who required a sign to believe in God.  Anybody who sees signs from God in current events needs to repent and learn to live by faith and not by sight.  People need to watch Elmer Fudd more and read the newspapers less, and live by faith like Yosemite Sam.

The 4th blood moon will be a supper blood moon over Jerusalem in September. If I were Iran, I would be watching the sky! If Israel attacks Iran, I expect the terrorist cells in America to be turned loose to attack our power grid.

yeah....and if nothing happens during that blood moon, so what?  Jesus is coming back soon...the signs of the times are obviously speaking God's warning of coming severe judgments on the world.  Jesus said "when all these things begin to come to pass..." pardon any verbatim misquote, it's from memory.....there is nothing wrong with observing the happenings of current events and seeing God's hand in allowing or constraining evils as warnings from God.  

The list of events which occurred within 24 hrs of land for peace deals being pushed on Israel, natural disasters and the 9/11 attacks included, is astounding.  God has always judged nations according to how they treat Israel and the Jews, and will until Jesus Christ rules the nations in person and the curse is lifted.  The stock market crash of 7 percent, 777 points, exactly.........clearly God is warning America and Christians in America have been hiding like cowards in their Christian clubhouse circles  while the ungodly have provoked God to prove His concern about a nation founded as dedicated to God who has cast Him out from ruling over them.

 

I never needed any "signs" to believe God's word, and never will....but to me, ignoring the obvious signs warning of coming judgment is just plain chicken.

A side note...I think "survivalists" are foolish.  When God's judgment falls, having a stockpile of food or weapons won't help.  The just shall live by faith, always have and always will.  When God's judgment falls on fat, happy, content, comfortable and proud people who claim to be Christians, we will see the proof of their faith.  Talk is cheap.   When faced with torture or death or concentration camps as the price of faith, then we will see who really "lives by faith".  I sure hope Jesus comes back first or calls me home before the chaos breaks out, but if I'm here to go through it I plan on praising the Lord just the same.

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it would not take much to cripple US armed forces enough so that a couple boatloads of Chinese could storm the Pacific beach and march right across the country as our new overlords bringing "safety" and "order"

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it would not take much to cripple US armed forces enough so that a couple boatloads of Chinese could storm the Pacific beach and march right across the country as our new overlords bringing "safety" and "order"

During world war two the Japs said they could not invade the American main land because there would be a gun behind every blade of grass. That is still true!

and anybody who observed the warning signs of Hitler's intentions, rise to power, and actions was wicked and like the foolish virgins who required a sign to believe in God.  Anybody who sees signs from God in current events needs to repent and learn to live by faith and not by sight.  People need to watch Elmer Fudd more and read the newspapers less, and live by faith like Yosemite Sam.

yeah....and if nothing happens during that blood moon, so what?  Jesus is coming back soon...the signs of the times are obviously speaking God's warning of coming severe judgments on the world.  Jesus said "when all these things begin to come to pass..." pardon any verbatim misquote, it's from memory.....there is nothing wrong with observing the happenings of current events and seeing God's hand in allowing or constraining evils as warnings from God.  

The list of events which occurred within 24 hrs of land for peace deals being pushed on Israel, natural disasters and the 9/11 attacks included, is astounding.  God has always judged nations according to how they treat Israel and the Jews, and will until Jesus Christ rules the nations in person and the curse is lifted.  The stock market crash of 7 percent, 777 points, exactly.........clearly God is warning America and Christians in America have been hiding like cowards in their Christian clubhouse circles  while the ungodly have provoked God to prove His concern about a nation founded as dedicated to God who has cast Him out from ruling over them.

 

I never needed any "signs" to believe God's word, and never will....but to me, ignoring the obvious signs warning of coming judgment is just plain chicken.

A side note...I think "survivalists" are foolish.  When God's judgment falls, having a stockpile of food or weapons won't help.  The just shall live by faith, always have and always will.  When God's judgment falls on fat, happy, content, comfortable and proud people who claim to be Christians, we will see the proof of their faith.  Talk is cheap.   When faced with torture or death or concentration camps as the price of faith, then we will see who really "lives by faith".  I sure hope Jesus comes back first or calls me home before the chaos breaks out, but if I'm here to go through it I plan on praising the Lord just the same.

Do you have car insurance? Do you have earthquake insurance? Do you have food insurance? If you don't provide for you family you are worse than an infidel 1 Timothy 5:8.

 

 

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the only people who seem to be trying to tie the Lord's return to the 7th Shemitah are those who accuse others of doing it when those others have done nothing of the sort.  This is a pitifully childish tactic of people who want to silence discussion...accuse the other person of saying something they never said and then argue against that point repeatedly and act like you are being disagreed with when you are not being disagreed with at all as you try to take the thread in a direction to satisfy your own need to feel right....or whatever it is that makes you afraid to discuss facts.

nobody said anything other than that the Lord could return at any moment before or after the Seventh Shemitah.  If you are too schicken to look at the fact of events that astoundingly indicate God is warning America and the world of coming severe judgment, just say "I'm afraid to talk about that stuff, it bothers me to think I might not be fat, happy, comfortable, as I live by faith if the Lord tarries beyond the Seventh Shemita and the world falls into chaos and American culture and economy collapse and a fascist government persecutes Christian and treats its populace like Hitler treated Germany and the Jews.

During world war two the Japs said they could not invade the American main land because there would be a gun behind every blade of grass. That is still true!

 

Do you have car insurance? Do you have earthquake insurance? Do you have food insurance? If you don't provide for you family you are worse than an infidel 1 Timothy 5:8.

 

 

If you think you can provide for your family when soldiers and tanks are at your door confiscating food and weapon stockpiles, go ahead and keep on stockpiling.  To say I'm not providing for my family and am worse than an infidel if I don't stockpile survival food and gear like a scared chicken maniac is silly.  This is why a lot of people fight so hard against discussing the obvious warnings that God is giving of His judgment falling when He always prefers to show mercy if people will turn to Him and seek Him rather than provoke Him with rebellion.  People don't want to live in a panic trying to gear up for survival...generally.  I know a lot of people who live that way and always try to push it on others and try to get them to join....and that's why a lot of people will not discuss the recent historical events and the upcoming Shemitah and  they do nothing but whine about following signs.

It's not about following signs, as a survivalist, it's about trusting in your own plans and strength rather than trusting in the Lord.  Survivalism has a religious fervor about it and it is a skewed brand of faith focusing too much on fear of the future rather than trusting and obeying the Lord  through the present and through whatever trials the future may or may not bring.

You don't remember Jesus saying "

(Luke 12:22-34)

 

25Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment? 26Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they? 27Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature? 28And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin: 29And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. 30Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith? 31Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed? 32(For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things. 33But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

 

Worry and fear are sin.  Survivalism is based on worry and fear.  It is a tangent that has gone off the deep end away from living by faith.

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I heard a man recently teaching the Shemitah 'doctrine' and I tell you it is bunk. Putting stock in one man's 'story' about this Shemitah stuff is a bunch of useless teachings used to magnify a 'prophet' of god. If there are others out there teaching it, I have not heard, but Mr. Cahn is a 'seller' of his side of a story. The so-called blood moon theory is bunk too.

IMO, and A2TB.

 

The quotes aren't even KJV that refer to the 'prophecy' out of Daschle's mouth -

 

"I know that there is only the smallest measure of inspiration that can be taken from this devastation. But there is a passage in the Bible from Isaiah that I think speaks to us all at times like this: ‘The bricks have fallen down, but we will rebuild with dressed stone; the fig [or sycamore] trees have been felled, but we will replace them with cedars.'" [Isaiah 9:10] [p.117]

 

Compare the KJV The bricks are fallen down, but we will build with hewn stones: the sycomores are cut down, but we will change them into cedars.

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I heard a man recently teaching the Shemitah 'doctrine' and I tell you it is bunk. Putting stock in one man's 'story' about this Shemitah stuff is a bunch of useless teachings used to magnify a 'prophet' of god. If there are others out there teaching it, I have not heard, but Mr. Cahn is a 'seller' of his side of a story. The so-called blood moon theory is bunk too.

IMO, and A2TB.

Look at the list of historical facts....and that list is partial.  The historical facts of natural disasters, hurricanes and out of season wildfires...calamities that fell on America repeatedly within 24 hrs of treaties and agreements pushed by the US forcing Israel to compromise with it's enemies......
You are burying your head in the sand.  It is so obvious that God is warning of coming judgement you have to be blind not to see it.

I don't care about Cahn.  I'm simply looking at the facts and God's hand in it, His warning for America, is obvious....and the pattern of events coinciding with the Shemitahs is historic fact as well.  I honestly hope I'm wrong and nothing serious happens on the 28th or 29th of Semptember this year but regardless, the world is obviously on the verge of exploding and America is obviously on the verge of collapse and decline into fascism.  The US constitution is pretty much meaningless now and our country is not the country that was founded on the Constitution.  The US dollar will probably be gone soon as we are spending ourselves into oblivion, and it won't take much of a terrorist sponsored attack or event on US soil to plunge us into chaos.

On one end we have survivalists who see the facts and the warnings from God and they are running around like chickens with their heads cut off trying to prepare to survive in the future regardless of Jesus saying not to worry about the future.

On the other hand, we have people who are incapable of looking at the historical facts and seeing the clear warning of judgement coming from God and I believe they are incapable of discussing those warnings because they are afraid their future won't be the fat happy Christian comfortable life they enjoyed for decades while they sat in their pews and let the ungodlies  throw God under the bus in America.

 

Me, I acknowledge God's warning and am happy to see He is involved in current events (thought it still grieves me when lives are lost to militant Islam like the 3000 on 9/11...I tried to join the Army after that event so I could get on the front lines and hunt Osama Bin Laden but was told I was too old at 42 then)  and I look forward to seeing Jesus face to face before or after God's judgment falls on America, before or after the Seventh Shemitah.....

I simply decided I'm going to trust the Lord no matter how severe the oppression and persecution of Christians may become if He leaves me in this world long enough to see it....and I'm not afraid to look at the obvious signs warning of judgment to come, and the historical facts of huge events occurring coinciding with the Shemitahs....I really hope the days around the next Shemitah are days like today, no ISIS bombs in the street, no dirty nukes or EMPs or collapse of the dollar or anything like that...just sunshine and birds singing all day....but I think that is obviously a pipe dream view of the future.  Violence against Christians is on the rise and we better have our hearts right when it comes so we find grace from God to obey Him no matter how we are persecuted, and to never deny His name and His salvation.

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Look at the list of historical facts....and that list is partial.  The historical facts of natural disasters, hurricanes and out of season wildfires...calamities that fell on America repeatedly within 24 hrs of treaties and agreements pushed by the US forcing Israel to compromise with it's enemies......You are burying your head in the sand.  It is so obvious that God is warning of coming judgement you have to be blind not to see it.

I don't care about Cahn.  I'm simply looking at the facts and God's hand in it, His warning for America, is obvious....and the pattern of events coinciding with the Shemitahs is historic fact as well.  I honestly hope I'm wrong and nothing serious happens on the 28th or 29th of Semptember this year but regardless, the world is obviously on the verge of exploding and America is obviously on the verge of collapse and decline into fascism.  The US constitution is pretty much meaningless now and our country is not the country that was founded on the Constitution.  The US dollar will probably be gone soon as we are spending ourselves into oblivion, and it won't take much of a terrorist sponsored attack or event on US soil to plunge us into chaos.

On one end we have survivalists who see the facts and the warnings from God and they are running around like chickens with their heads cut off trying to prepare to survive in the future regardless of Jesus saying not to worry about the future.

On the other hand, we have people who are incapable of looking at the historical facts and seeing the clear warning of judgement coming from God and I believe they are incapable of discussing those warnings because they are afraid their future won't be the fat happy Christian comfortable life they enjoyed for decades while they sat in their pews and let the ungodlies  throw God under the bus in America.

Have you a personal source to check Cahns historical facts and a proper calendar of years AND checked them yourself to get the exact Shemitah dates?

Probably not.

I think you would be embarrassed to find out his inaccuracies and errors on his dates.

 

Are you aware and prepared?

 

I am ready for the Lord's return, but not a Shemitah lie nor a false prophets message from a god.

Any irony here - Cahn=Con?

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I heard a man recently teaching the Shemitah 'doctrine' and I tell you it is bunk. Putting stock in one man's 'story' about this Shemitah stuff is a bunch of useless teachings used to magnify a 'prophet' of god. If there are others out there teaching it, I have not heard, but Mr. Cahn is a 'seller' of his side of a story. The so-called blood moon theory is bunk too.

IMO, and A2TB.

 

The quotes aren't even KJV that refer to the 'prophecy' out of Daschle's mouth -

 

"I know that there is only the smallest measure of inspiration that can be taken from this devastation. But there is a passage in the Bible from Isaiah that I think speaks to us all at times like this: ‘The bricks have fallen down, but we will rebuild with dressed stone; the fig [or sycamore] trees have been felled, but we will replace them with cedars.'" [Isaiah 9:10[p.117]

 

Compare the KJV The bricks are fallen down, but we will build with hewn stones: the sycomores are cut down, but we will change them into cedars.

I didn't need Cahn to tell me God was warning American in response to Bush pressuring Israel for a big peace deal, and I didn't need Cahn to tell me that when I watched our national leaders on the news twice quoting that passage in Isaiah which was words of defiance against the warning signs God sent to His people, it was bad and bad was an understatement.  I knew the basics of the whole thing as I watched it unfolding on the news.  It was obvious that America was provoking God by pressuring Israel to compromise with it's enemies, it was obvious the God allowed the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagons hours before that deal was to be signed, it was obvious God was displeased with America and warning her....and then I watched those idiots on TV quoting that passage of defiance from Isaiah, a passage I knew then was Israel shaking it's fist toward it's enemies when in reality is was shaking it's fist toward God who was warning Israel to repent or face much more severe judgment...our national leaders doing the exact same thing......

and now I know much more about the facts of the things that happened when and after the Towers were hit and fell.....those FACTS read like a story in the Bible only it's real in current events, God warning America.  I never needed Cahn or his Shemita calendar to know what was happening...it was way to obvious, just amazed me how people didn't seem to see it on the days it was happening and it still amazes me how people try to deny it now.  God is warning of judgment if there is not repentance and most Christians are too fat and happy on the internet in their cozy homes to care....sitting around telling everybody what smart and great Christians they are when we should all be on our knees fasting and praying before our freedom to do so is taken away.

And I don't care which version you use or which was quoted by the ungodly leaders who shook their fists in God's face defying Him as the declared they would stand proud against fleshly enemies and not offer repentance toward God for killing millions of babies and pushing sodomite marriage and all the rest of their ungodly wickedness......

Our leaders followed that passage in Isaiah in defiance of God, did exactly the same as the Jews did, not repenting but provoking God more and more until they were carried away to Babylon.....they went up into the New York quarry and cut new stones for the cornerstone/foundation to rebuild at ground zero and did it with a big pompous ceremony smacking God's face again

Have you a personal source to check Cahns historical facts and a proper calendar of years AND checked them yourself to get the exact Shemitah dates?

Probably not.

I think you would be embarrassed to find out his inaccuracies and errors on his dates.

 

I am ready for the Lord's return, but not a Shemitah lie nor a false prophets message from a god.

Any irony here - Cahn=Con?

are you even reading my posts?  I think you have a Cahn fetish.

I don't care if Cahns shemitah calendar is correct or not, it doesn't matter...if he is correct, it is highly significant and if not, the historical facts remain obvious that God is warning America and I saw that for myself as it was unfolding on the news in real time long before you or I ever heard of Cahn.

All this "smear Cahn" garbage is childish attempts to ignore the fact that God is warning America.  I have looked at the Shemita calendars and the reasonings of those who say Cahn is wrong on the calendar and it DOES NOT MATTER.  God is warning America with or without Cahn.

Why in the world do you have to go on and on and on saying nothing but Cahn false prophet and Shemita Lie?  You sound like a broken record....like your brain is stuck because you are afraid to get out of your rut.  Again, for about the tenth time since you seem to be having difficulty reading my posts and responding on an adult level, I am aware of Cahn's heresies and the controversies of his "shemitah calendars".  I am not a Cahn follower or promoter, but he is right in saying God is warning America.  I think people like you are simply jealous of people like Cahn who succeeded in gaining fame by pointing out facts.  The man teaches heresies and has to answer for God in the matter, and I would not want to be in his shoes that day....

The facts remain.  God is warning America.

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I didn't need Cahn to tell me God was warning American in response to Bush pressuring Israel for a big peace deal, and I didn't need Cahn to tell me that when I watched our national leaders on the news twice quoting that passage in Isaiah which was words of defiance against the warning signs God sent to His people, it was bad and bad was an understatement.  I knew the basics of the whole thing as I watched it unfolding on the news.  It was obvious that America was provoking God by pressuring Israel to compromise with it's enemies, it was obvious the God allowed the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagons hours before that deal was to be signed, it was obvious God was displeased with America and warning her....and then I watched those idiots on TV quoting that passage of defiance from Isaiah, a passage I knew then was Israel shaking it's fist toward it's enemies when in reality is was shaking it's fist toward God who was warning Israel to repent or face much more severe judgment...our national leaders doing the exact same thing......

and now I know much more about the facts of the things that happened when and after the Towers were hit and fell.....those FACTS read like a story in the Bible only it's real in current events, God warning America.  I never needed Cahn or his Shemita calendar to know what was happening...it was way to obvious, just amazed me how people didn't seem to see it on the days it was happening and it still amazes me how people try to deny it now.  God is warning of judgment if there is not repentance and most Christians are too fat and happy on the internet in their cozy homes to care....sitting around telling everybody what smart and great Christians they are when we should all be on our knees fasting and praying before our freedom to do so is taken away.

And I don't care which version you use or which was quoted by the ungodly leaders who shook their fists in God's face defying Him as the declared they would stand proud against fleshly enemies and not offer repentance toward God for killing millions of babies and pushing sodomite marriage and all the rest of their ungodly wickedness......

Our leaders followed that passage in Isaiah in defiance of God, did exactly the same as the Jews did, not repenting but provoking God more and more until they were carried away to Babylon.....they went up into the New York quarry and cut new stones for the cornerstone/foundation to rebuild at ground zero and did it with a big pompous ceremony smacking God's face again

are you even reading my posts?  I think you have a Cahn fetish.

I don't care if Cahns shemitah calendar is correct or not, it doesn't matter...if he is correct, it is highly significant and if not, the historical facts remain obvious that God is warning America and I saw that for myself as it was unfolding on the news in real time long before you or I ever heard of Cahn.

All this "smear Cahn" garbage is childish attempts to ignore the fact that God is warning America.  I have looked at the Shemita calendars and the reasonings of those who say Cahn is wrong on the calendar and it DOES NOT MATTER.  God is warning America with or without Cahn.

Why in the world do you have to go on and on and on saying nothing but Cahn false prophet and Shemita Lie?  You sound like a broken record....like your brain is stuck because you are afraid to get out of your rut.

That's a definite 'no' then. You have no idea if the shemitah schedule is  even real, yet you will follow a teaching like this, and I know Cahn has nothing to do with what you believe... I know...

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That's a definite 'no' then. You have no idea if the shemitah schedule is  even real, yet you will follow a teaching like this, and I know Cahn has nothing to do with what you believe... I know...

I'm not following a teaching other than the Bible which clearly teaches God deals with nations according to how they treat Israel.   I watched the events on the news when they were happening and I knew what was happening probably before Cahn did.  I didn't need any Shemita stuff then to see it and I don't need it now.  America was provoking God by pressuring Israel, and He allowed America to by hit by Israel's enemies.   America's leaders quoted the same defiance against God's warning as the Jews did in Isaiah 9 and they provoked God by so doing and have not repented and God is warning of the serious answer He is going to give them if they don't repent and start fearing God again.

What in the world are you following?  The insides of your eyelids?

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That's a definite 'no' then. You have no idea if the shemitah schedule is  even real, yet you will follow a teaching like this, and I know Cahn has nothing to do with what you believe... I know...

For the third of fifth time, yes I have looked at the opposing views which say Cahn's calendar and dating of Jewish events is wrong.

For crying out loud, do you have to keep making false accusations, ignoring what I say, and then argue against your own invented argument?

I have looked at both sides regarding Cahn's shemitahs and because of the severity and significance of events, the twenty or forty or so that I have listed in previous posts, I lean toward accepting Cahn's interpretation of the Shemitah calendar but even if he is wrong, it DOES NOT MATTER.  God is clearly warning America, the historical events read like a book in the Bible and if you can't see God's hand in the things that are happening I think you are willfully ignorant.

I do not recommend that anybody worry or become obsessed about it like many survivalists do, and I do not recommend that we ignore the warnings God is sending although if a born-again believer chooses to ignore them that's fine with me.  It just bugs me when those Christians act like they are holier than me as they try to tell me that they are living by faith as if I am not.  The argument just seems to be so childish and degrading and I have walked away from it many times, and used it as a witnessing tool many times, and many times have enjoyed wonderful fellowship with like-minded believers who with me joyfully expect the Lord to return and any moment and are prepared to endure any suffering knowing the joy that lies ahead for us.

 

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I'm not following a teaching other than the Bible which clearly teaches God deals with nations according to how they treat Israel.   I watched the events on the news when they were happening and I knew what was happening probably before Cahn did.  I didn't need any Shemita stuff then to see it and I don't need it now.  America was provoking God by pressuring Israel, and He allowed America to by hit by Israel's enemies.   America's leaders quoted the same defiance against God's warning as the Jews did in Isaiah 9 and they provoked God by so doing and have not repented and God is warning of the serious answer He is going to give them if they don't repent and start fearing God again.

What in the world are you following?  The insides of your eyelids?

Who or what is "Israel" in these new covenant in Jesus' blood days? Obviously not the country that claims the name, but totally rejects the Messiah, the LORD Jesus Christ. 

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During WWII the Japanese could not muster a military force large enough to land and sustain a sizable invasion of America. They also didn't have the logistical capability of supplying an invasion force after landing.

The Chinese have a far larger population and military manpower than did the Japanese. Once the Chinese reach their naval goals in a few years they will have a Pacific fleet large enough and modern enough to equal or best the American Pacific fleet.

Also, during WWII it was still legal for Americans to own many military grade/style weapons which today are illegal. Japanese carrying their rifles to attack Americans armed with their own rifles, as well as machine guns and other weapons would have faced serious resistance besides what the American military would have confronted them with. Chinese invading today with machine guns, rocket launchers, mortars, and armor machines of war would have a great advantage over Americans carrying a .22 rifle, a single shot hunting rifle, even a semi-auto AK-47 with a limited clip.

A Chinese invasion of the west coast at some point in this century is likely. This especially so since the Chinese have already said they are prepared to do such upon the internal collapse of America (which they expect to come this century). They already claim Chinese living in America and Canada to be colonists and when they invade it will be done under the claim of protecting their colonists.

In such a situation as the internal collapse of America we could also likely expect an invasion from Mexico, "to protect their people", while laying claim to what portion they could grab and hold.

At the same time, it would be likely a UN force would be sent into certain portions of America as "peacekeepers" in order to make sure the "right" side or group has an advantage over the "wrong" ones.

Many would be eager to get their hands on whatever portion of America they could.

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If God wants a country overthrown, it doesn't matter what size army or how good their arms are.

That's very true. Prior to WWII really kicking off the French army was one of the largest, most feared. Even the German high command didn't think their forces were large enough or prepared enough to face the French. As we now know, the smaller German forces took France with relative ease.

Upon first look it would seem as if America should have been able to quickly defeat the North Vietnamese but we know that didn't happen.

We come up with plans but it's the Lord that controls the outcome.

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The Vietnamese were defending their country, so had extra reason to fight.  The US were fighting a foreign war to prop up a corrupt and brutal Roman Catholic dictatorship.  The UK, on paper should have lost the war before the US got involved.  I was seven when the war ended, and I remember the German bombers flying over.  I can remember my mum saying when aircraft flew overhead, "That's one of ours." or "That's one of theirs." just from the sound of their engines.  She said later, "If Hitler knew how weak we were, he would have come."  In spite of Churchill's "We will fight them on the beaches." speech.   The Luftwaffe had been bombing the RAF airfields to try to destroy the RAF' capability to defend our country.  (We lived about a mile from a fighter base, so we saw some of the action.)   What saved us was a German bomber dropping a bomb on London.  The RAF bombed Berlin in retaliation.  This so incensed Hitler that he changed his targets to English cities.  This enabled us to build up the RAF.

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I'm not following a teaching other than the Bible which clearly teaches God deals with nations according to how they treat Israel.   I watched the events on the news when they were happening and I knew what was happening probably before Cahn did.  I didn't need any Shemita stuff then to see it and I don't need it now.  America was provoking God by pressuring Israel, and He allowed America to by hit by Israel's enemies.   America's leaders quoted the same defiance against God's warning as the Jews did in Isaiah 9 and they provoked God by so doing and have not repented and God is warning of the serious answer He is going to give them if they don't repent and start fearing God again.

What in the world are you following?  The insides of your eyelids?

I also follow the scriptures, and I know that when Israel was in their land centuries ago, God never took care of them and destroyed their enemies when they were disobedient and unbelieving. Why would he now. God does not fight for the hateful followers of Judaism, nor does he affect 'Israel's' enemies for being against them when 'Israel' is in a lost state as they are now. No matter who is in the land right now, Jews or one's who call themselves Jews but aren't, they are not followers of the Lord. That makes them not his chosen. And since there is not a Christian nation on the Earth right now, God defends no people but his. And his people are called sons of the Living God. We know them as born-again Christians.

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I also follow the scriptures, and I know that when Israel was in their land centuries ago, God never took care of them and destroyed their enemies when they were disobedient and unbelieving. Why would he now. God does not fight for the hateful followers of Judaism, nor does he affect 'Israel's' enemies for being against them when 'Israel' is in a lost state as they are now. No matter who is in the land right now, Jews or one's who call themselves Jews but aren't, they are not followers of the Lord. That makes them not his chosen. And since there is not a Christian nation on the Earth right now, God defends no people but his. And his people are called sons of the Living God. We know them as born-again Christians.

Absolutely,

God called Nebuchadnezzar "My servant" when he called him to destroy Jerusalem.

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And why don't people pay attention to how the Lord blessed America for supporting 'Israel' Jews?

We lost Korean War.

We lost Vietnam War.

We took the Bible and prayer out of schools.

We legalized abortion.

Our Presidents lie.

The list goes on!

So please, tell me how the Lord blesses those that support 'Israel'?

Oh! Wait! I know! The times we were in disobedience to supporting 'Israel' are when these things happened, right?

Then what blessings were there when we did support the lost nation of 'Israel'?

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America does not need any foreign power invading it to assure America's destruction.  America's destruction is being assured by it's own citizens. . . . the few who control the government and the many who vote for the leaders the powerful recommend to the voters. The few who run things are not Americans at heart they are citizens of the world. They have many places they will run to when the nation falls.  

They are such arrogant fools.  They forget that God said in so many words "You can run but you can't hide."                                                                                                         Job 34:21-22  "For his eyes are upon the ways of man, and he seeth all his goings.  There is no darkness, nor shadow of death, where the workers of iniquity may hide themselves."  KJV

 

 

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Who or what is "Israel" in these new covenant in Jesus' blood days? Obviously not the country that claims the name, but totally rejects the Messiah, the LORD Jesus Christ. 

why are you the only person here who has problems understanding what we are saying when we way "Israel"?  I never had a problem with that word, never had a problem understanding what it means any place it is used in the Bible, never had a problem understanding what it means when it is used in the news or by anybody in the world.  The only place I would have trouble understanding the word "Israel" would be when somebody like you is using it because you are confused about it and all I'll get from you is confusion.

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Absolutely,

God called Nebuchadnezzar "My servant" when he called him to destroy Jerusalem.

He's teaching heresy.  God will deal with nations according to how they treat the Jews if the Jews are wicked or ungodly.  God will deal with individuals according to Jesus Christ.

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Absolutely,

God called Nebuchadnezzar "My servant" when he called him to destroy Jerusalem.

Israel is still the apple of God's eye.  Jerusalem is still the holy city of God, and Jesus Christ will rule the world from Mt. Zion, the names of the twelve elders of the tribes of Israel hold equal place with the names of the twelve apostles in Revelation.  You are teaching Christian anti-Semitism and it's evil.  Christians should always be on the side of Israel.  Any nation that is against Israel is against God.  Any Christian who does not support Israel and the Jews is invoking God's punishment on themselves.  If the Jews are not right with God, God will deal with them.  Any nation that mistreats Israel and/or the Jews will be punished for it.  By making blanket statements seeking to throw all Jews to the lions, you are provoking God to punish you.

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Israel is still the apple of God's eye.  Jerusalem is still the holy city of God, and Jesus Christ will rule the world from Mt. Zion, the names of the twelve elders of the tribes of Israel hold equal place with the names of the twelve apostles in Revelation.  You are teaching Christian anti-Semitism and it's evil.  Christians should always be on the side of Israel.  Any nation that is against Israel is against God.  Any Christian who does not support Israel and the Jews is invoking God's punishment on themselves.  If the Jews are not right with God, God will deal with them.  Any nation that mistreats Israel and/or the Jews will be punished for it.  By making blanket statements seeking to throw all Jews to the lions, you are provoking God to punish you.

I am not teaching antisemitism, I just quoted the scripture, seems the scripture is not good enough for you.

Jer 25:9  Behold, I will send and take all the families of the north, saith the LORD, and Nebuchadrezzar the king of Babylon, my servant, and will bring them against this land, and against the inhabitants thereof, and against all these nations round about, and will utterly destroy them, and make them an astonishment, and an hissing, and perpetual desolations.

 

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