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There she goes/ Supreme Court ruling

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I wanted to put this up here.  Your good Christians. You didn't want this to happen of course. We have a  flood of porn.  Television filled with sin among other things.  Just remember God hands people over to a reprobate mind.  The floodgates are open now. I assume they are going to move to make this very acceptable to people I don't know. This could get really rough on a lot of people including the young people. What's good is we still have freedom of speech and we can preach the GOOD NEWS all day day long. The Gospel saves no other way.   Time to get to work.  

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I've been warning for years the Supreme Court would force homosexual marriage on every State. This, along with many other unconstitutional rulings, should finally end the idea of "we must vote Republican so a Republican will be on the Court".

It was, in part, Republican nominated justices twisting away the Constitution which gave us the new "law of the land" forcing every State to allow homosexual marriage; as well as Obamacare and a host of other bad things.

It's only a matter of time before the government will seek to force full acceptance of homosexuals and homosexual marriage upon every business and institution, including churches, in the name of equality. Eventually, any speech that's deemed anti-homosexual, including quoting Scripture on the matter, will be declared hate speech punishable by huge fines and jail time.

 

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I'm not worried about it.  I don't offend anyone.  I preach Salvation.  If they are offended by that.  Thats the way it is.  It's a constitutional right.  I don't represent any large or affiliated church.    

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I'm not worried about it.  I don't offend anyone.  I preach Salvation.  If they are offended by that.  Thats the way it is.  It's a constitutional right.  I don't represent any large affiliated church.    

The Gospel offends most unfortunately.  The 2nd amendment has been "on the ropes" for decades now.  It's finally gotten to the point where only 52% of Americans think we should have less or stay the same with regards to gun control.  Once that percentage flips the other way and more gun control is accepted and instituted...the 1st amendment will be next.  Preaching the Gospel will be considered hate speech and it will only be allowed within church walls...eventually, the Government will infringe on that as well.  Could be decades away but I think the writing is on the walls.

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No need to worry, we are commanded not to do that, but we should be aware that once they get to the point of declaring certain parts of the Bible "hate speech" it's a small step from there to making other biblical preaching "hate speech" as well.

The Gospel of salvation could easily be declared intolerant and therefore contrary to the rights of equality.

American law is heavily based upon the concept of precedence so once a precedence is set in this area it makes it that much easier for them to go further; something other countries have already done.

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The Gospel offends most unfortunately.  The 2nd amendment has been "on the ropes" for decades now.  It's finally gotten to the point where only 52% of Americans think we should have less or stay the same with regards to gun control.  Once that percentage flips the other way and more gun control is accepted and instituted...the 1st amendment will be next.  Preaching the Gospel will be considered hate speech and it will only be allowed within church walls...eventually, the Government will infringe on that as well.  Could be decades away but I think the writing is on the walls.

Well I'm out there all the time.  I have never even brought up in my remembrance Sodomites when preaching.  I don't preach the government.  I preach the gospel.  Which really has not a lot to do with the government.  I will probably do that till the day I die (hopefully). Now some congregations are going to get in a big fight with sinners over sin.  There going to get into it with the government.  I don't see what a lot of congregations are doing now a days in the NT anywhere.  So I will stay out of it.  My comment addressing that possibly God lets and well this country is covered up in porn ( see my maps on how countries that have legal porn have legalized sodomite marriage ).  Preach the Gospel what God wants. 

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Well I'm out there all the time.  I have never even brought up in my remembrance.  Sodomites when preaching.  I don't preach the government.  I preach the gospel.  Which really has not a lot to do with the government.  I will probably do that till the day I die (hopefully). Now some congregations are going to get in a big fight with sinners over sin.  There going to get into it with the government.  I don't see what a lot of congregations are doing now a days in the NT anywhere.  So I will stay out of it.  My comment addressing that possibly God lets and well this country is covered up in porn ( see my maps on how countries that have legal porn have legalized sodomite marriage ).  Preach the Gospel what God wants. 

I am not saying don't preach the Gospel or don't go out soulwinning.  What I'm saying is the slippery slope has started and it doesn't matter if you preach just the Gospel, it will offend folks and soon it will be considered hate speech.  I must not be presenting my thoughts well enough.

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I am not saying don't preach the Gospel or don't go out soulwinning.  What I'm saying is the slippery slope has started and it doesn't matter if you preach just the Gospel, it will offend folks and soon it will be considered hate speech.  I must not be presenting my thoughts well enough.

Coming through loud and clear!

While it's not yet become a matter of law, there are already many out there who claim the Bible is full of hate, that preaching from the Bible is hate, claiming homosexuality a sin is hate, claiming Jesus is the only way to God/heaven is hate, saying women can't be pastors is hate, the idea of modesty is hate, this that and the other is hate.

Colleges, public schools, courts, businesses, the media and others have done and are still working towards the demonizing of Christianity. At every corner they work against Bible believers, striving to get them viewed as intolerant haters. You can't pray here, you can't pray there, you can't talk about Jesus here, you can't believe what the Bible says...

They follow the same pattern as always. Work to build a negative perception among the general population, then begin pushing for laws against the matter, in the name of equality, and with much of the public already preconditioned to support such the politicians and judges take notice and begin to rule in their favor.

The homosexuality issue will be used as a wedge to drive legal initiatives against Christians. At some point, this will directly effect the preaching of the Gospel.

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I am not saying don't preach the Gospel or don't go out soulwinning.  What I'm saying is the slippery slope has started and it doesn't matter if you preach just the Gospel, it will offend folks and soon it will be considered hate speech.  I must not be presenting my thoughts well enough.

I'm seeing a move (among unbelievers); in which, they are saying that telling children that there's a hell is child abuse. I agree, the slippery slope has started and is getting slicker all the time. I'm sure it won't be long until they try to silence us.

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Oh they can try.  Canada doesn't have freedom of speech in their constitution.   As far as I know.  From what I see on the web you can anything.   More than likely they will assail churches in some way other than that.  Like discrimination that would be my best guess.  If schools are accredited they might have to hire sodomite teachers etc. etc.  I'm sure there are plenty of political action groups you can join and fight back with.  Anyone fearmongering with freedom of speech I have to wonder what they want.  

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I'm seeing a move (among unbelievers); in which, they are saying that telling children that there's a hell is child abuse. I agree, the slippery slope has started and is getting slicker all the time. I'm sure it won't be long until they try to silence us.

There have already been cases where judges have stated they believe Christian teaching is child abuse. Some in the "shrink" world have stated similar.

We've probably all seen/heard the constant linking of fundamentalist Christians with fundamentalist Islamists.

There seems to be a growing number who believe parents having their children attend church or a Christian school is a form of abuse, even to the point some compare it to slavery as they claim the children are deprived of learning and the ability to make up their own mind.

As our pastor says, either we (parents) will help mold and train our children's beliefs and views or the world will conform them to theirs.

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Coming through loud and clear!

While it's not yet become a matter of law, there are already many out there who claim the Bible is full of hate, that preaching from the Bible is hate, claiming homosexuality a sin is hate, claiming Jesus is the only way to God/heaven is hate, saying women can't be pastors is hate, the idea of modesty is hate, this that and the other is hate.

Colleges, public schools, courts, businesses, the media and others have done and are still working towards the demonizing of Christianity. At every corner they work against Bible believers, striving to get them viewed as intolerant haters. You can't pray here, you can't pray there, you can't talk about Jesus here, you can't believe what the Bible says...

They follow the same pattern as always. Work to build a negative perception among the general population, then begin pushing for laws against the matter, in the name of equality, and with much of the public already preconditioned to support such the politicians and judges take notice and begin to rule in their favor.

The homosexuality issue will be used as a wedge to drive legal initiatives against Christians. At some point, this will directly effect the preaching of the Gospel.

What about RevBob, he preaches hate? (why do I wish I was using a proxy and a good firewall now)

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This whole sodomite marriage thing is disgusting watching the news these people together.  Yuck.  I'm glad I don't watch TV at all.  I won't have to see any of this going on.  You see it on the streets but very very little.  Oh that television lol has taken real turn for the worse.  Thank goodness for some of the stuff on the internet.  I won't have to watch that thing (television) again. 

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Outlawing the Bible as hate-speech is next.  Legalized sodomite marriage and free speech cannot coexist....and with that riding on the back of legalized baby-killing.......

Saying that Hell is eternal torment for those who refuse God's love and His  offer of pardon through His blood in Jesus Christ is also going to be framed as "hate-speech".  It's not nice to make anybody think they could possibly face eternal damnation in Hell.

Everything seems to be pointing to the soon upcoming persecution of Christians if the rapture does not happen sooner.

 

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I have been pretty sad to see all the businesses who have added a rainbow to their logo and friends who have added a rainbow to their Facebook profile.  Even the White House added a rainbow.   So much has changed since he 80s and I remember asking my Dad what AIDS was, and why it was in the news.

Religious freedom has been restricted already but it will be gone soon.  The dissenting justices even said as much.

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I have been pretty sad to see all the businesses who have added a rainbow to their logo and friends who have added a rainbow to their Facebook profile.  Even the White House added a rainbow.   So much has changed since he 80s and I remember asking my Dad what AIDS was, and why it was in the news.

Religious freedom has been restricted already but it will be gone soon.  The dissenting justices even said as much.

The U.S. Dept of education had the rainbow behind their facebook avatar for a while but had a lot of complaints so they actually took it off yesterday afternoon.  

The sad truth is in a statistic I heard on FRA radio:  70% of millennials are for sodomite "marriages" verses 49% of baby boomers.  That tells me too many "Christians" have been way too permissive with their children.  I was shocked to find out a lot of IFB Christians that I know personally had actually let their children make the choice to go to church or not when they reached teen years.  Their reasoning, "I didn't want to force it on them and have them rebel and turn away."  Guess what??  They've turned away!!!!  That statistic also shows the impact of public schooling.  It still blows my mind that, "Christians" I personally know, think I am a bit off my rocker for claiming that the godless institution called public school is a sin.  But look at the results.  "Oh if you rear your kids in church, public school wont have an impact"  What a lie straight from satan!  1-3 hours a week in church will never counter 6 hours a day with sodomite loving, God hating, evolution teaching humanists!

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70% of millennials are for sodomite "marriages" verses 49% of baby boomers

Porn, lust are like a lit match near gasoline.  It's just possible this stuff started way  back when.  When they ruled on obscene material.  Once again where you have legal porn you have sodomite marriage or unions.  That's my worry here.  This is just the beginning.  I'm not worried about free speech or religious freedom clearly spelled out.  Where a lot of other derivations they ruled on were not including sodomite marriage.  That 70 percent (young people) millennials are at high risk now of being swept into the vortex of the sodomite lifestyle.  TV is going to make all of this highly popular.  Wise thing for a parent to do is chuck the TV and the computer or take measures.  That includes the cell phone.  I am not sending money to defend free speech or religious freedom to anyone that's very plain.  Nor sit around wringing my hands saying this is surely then end there's going to be a lot of that God told Abraham is there is one righteous man left he would not destroy Sodom.   What I am going to try to do is preach the gospel to every young person or get them a tract I can find.  Even going out of my way.   

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Unfortunately the so-called "Greatest Generation" gave us the rebellious liberal youth that worked hard to wreck America in the 60s and 70s. The Baby Boomers were even more lax with their offspring, as has those who have come since. Most children, youth and even young adults today have spent nearly their whole lives awash in liberal, secular, sinful indoctrination through public schools, TV, movies, "news", government, colleges, music and even much of what they picked up from their parents.

Sadly, in many Christian households it's not much different. Our pastor often points out that when parents say they don't want to push Christianity on their children, that they are just going to let them decide for themselves what they want to do because they don't want to influence them, what they are really saying is they don't care enough to do what's right for their children and they are going to allow the world to influence them instead, pushing them to accept and adopt the secular, sinful ways of the world. Even so, some parents just go right ahead and let little Billy and Bonnie skip church in favor of watching a movie on TV, playing video games, or engaging in some other secular matter.

It's interesting to notice that such parents will readily admit their children aren't able to make various important decisions on their own yet when it comes to Christianity they think somehow their children know enough to make the right decisions.

Christian parents complain about the stuff their children pick up and copy from public schools but they keep sending them there. Later, these same parents spend thousands of dollars to send their children to secular schools where their children learn all about how to get drunk fast, dress to quickly attract sexual attention, and receive a full dose of anti-Christian propaganda. Then they wonder why their college age darlings come home pregnant, become drunks, think Christianity is the white man's religion of dominance over women and non-whites, hold socialist and communist ideas.

We all know the "sports first" factor which infects many Christian families and leaves many pews empty and Sunday school seats unused because children involved in every sport under the sun, even during church hours, is far more important than the state of their souls and eternal destiny.

We can sound the alarm, provide biblical guidance, but if the parents let it go in one ear and out the other there is little more that we can do. That puts their children at great risk and sets the stage for things to be even worse for their own children in this area. Meanwhile, the average age in most biblically sound churches today grows older each year as children, youth and young adults choose the world over the things of God.

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Hi John,  Well I guess I helped "wreck it".  I can hardly remember it.  I was not a Christian back then.  A strange thing happened back then when my grandmother died.  She was the closest relative that I knew that died.  It was like the first funeral I went to.  Things changed.  I took on a lot of my parents values.  Pretty conservative.  I changed my lifestyle.  A lot of people see doom here.  I see a whole lot of people running for cover.  Not just committed Christians.  A lot of young people are probably perplexed, confused.  TV is a a lot of it filled with sin its no conspiracy.  It's just sin filled.  Whats worse promoting the sodomite lifestyle or nudity?  its a clever thing sin is.  A lot of whats sold and the programming all involve sinners enticing  people with sin.  TV has always been that way a lot of people disagree with me of course.  It brings the world your supposed to come out and be separate from into your home.   Saved Christians I don't necessarily worry about thats a pastors job.  I'm no pastor of course I believe in eternal security.  I'm not going to assume all millennials think this sodomite business is swell either.  In a way its like opportunity like say relations with Cuba.  Conservatives may not like it.   Liberals may laud it.  A missionary well he's going to see it as opportunity get his hiking boots on and a plane ticket and go for it.  Thats pretty much all I saw when relations were re-established opportunity for the Gospel.

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Something I brought up in my sermon yesterday, is that, until fairly recently, even many non-Christians tended to have at least a sympathetic view of believers, particularly those being oppressed and persecuted. Just common decency. True, not all, but many.  But now, homosexuality has become the 'cool' thing: many youth play with it, declaring at 12 or 13 that they are gay or lesbian, (more the girls, I think, than the boys), its cool and trendy to 'be gay'. As such, with same-sex 'marriage' not all the rage, and everyone on Facebook changing their avatars to have rainbows on them, its not only trendy and cool, its seen as enlightened and possibly the next step in human evolution. So now, to be a Christians who stands against it, means you are standing against love, against progress, against enlightenment, against all supposed good things that will make society a better place, (they believe), so now, standing against, even persecuting Christians is going to be seen as a great help to society, which cant possibly soar with the majestic New Age eagles if they are being weighed down by the Neandertals (sic) who believe in creation, God, absolute truth and hell.  Who would have thought they could actually make persecution of Christians cool and trendy?  

Also, prepare to see the new Popester begin a shift of official church position on same sex marriage. 

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Of course Ukulelemike.  Its going to be trendy.  Thats not good at all.  I got salvation and was swept out of "trendiness" for which I am really grateful.  Many may not become that way -sodomite.  There's a line you just don't cross over.  It's not convenient.  What I am saying is its not a lifestyle "choice".  It's not by influence.  It's cause.  Then God gives them over to vile affections. The world doesn't get that it is not cause and effect.  It's God purposely giving them over to that.  It could be Gods judgement to hand them over.  That I am not sure however God does that.  For worshipping the creature.  Bible says preach the Gospel to every living creature how that breaks down from the original language I don't know the word "creature" out of Greek or Hebrew.  People may dabble but that isn't their way.  They may say things they don't mean also because it is "trendy".  

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One of the biggest problems with the citizens of the world is they think continually changing the rules will make things better.  Everyone thinks of changing the world and no one thinks of changing himself.

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One of the biggest problems with the citizens of the world is they think continually changing the rules will make things better.  Everyone thinks of changing the world and no one thinks of changing himself.

Thats what more than some of the Bible is about.  I agree. 

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