Members MountainChristian Posted April 14, 2015 Members Share Posted April 14, 2015 In the little magazine "Israel MY Glory" they debunk the blood moons myth. John81 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Eric Stahl Posted April 14, 2015 Author Members Share Posted April 14, 2015 1 Thessalonians 5:4-6 We Christians are to know the signs for the day of the Lord and prepare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John81 Posted April 14, 2015 Members Share Posted April 14, 2015 1 Thessalonians 5:4-6 We Christians are to know the signs for the day of the Lord and prepare.This doesn't tell us to be watching for signs. This is telling us, as we are told elsewhere in Scripture, to be continually walking in the Spirit, doing as our Lord told us with an attitude of expectation that He could return at any moment. In this way when Christ returns we will be found about His business, not asleep, we will be watching for we are ever prepared for His return and our minds will be set upon Him. Invicta and Covenanter 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Eric Stahl Posted April 14, 2015 Author Members Share Posted April 14, 2015 This doesn't tell us to be watching for signs. This is telling us, as we are told elsewhere in Scripture, to be continually walking in the Spirit, doing as our Lord told us with an attitude of expectation that He could return at any moment. In this way when Christ returns we will be found about His business, not asleep, we will be watching for we are ever prepared for His return and our minds will be set upon Him.1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 tells us that they will not know that the day of the Lord is coming. The signs are not for the rapture. Christians should not worry because they will know when the day of the Lord is near.I know it is very near now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Invicta Posted April 16, 2015 Members Share Posted April 16, 2015 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 tells us that they will not know that the day of the Lord is coming. The signs are not for the rapture. Christians should not worry because they will know when the day of the Lord is near. It is the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Eric Stahl Posted April 16, 2015 Author Members Share Posted April 16, 2015 It is the same thing.1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 is about the rapture and 1 Thessalonians 5:1-3 is about the day of the Lord. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Invicta Posted April 16, 2015 Members Share Posted April 16, 2015 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 is about the rapture and 1 Thessalonians 5:1-3 is about the day of the Lord.They are the same event. Genevanpreacher and Covenanter 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Eric Stahl Posted April 16, 2015 Author Members Share Posted April 16, 2015 They are the same event.Then you believe the signs Jesus gave us for the day of the Lord in Matthew 24:7-8 are also the signs for the rapture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ukulelemike Posted April 16, 2015 Moderators Share Posted April 16, 2015 Genesis 1:14 the sun and moon were given for signs and seasons (feasts) Strong's number 4150There was a solar eclipse on March 20th also.True, but it doesn't mean that everything that happens in the heavens is a specific sign. We have had people point to the planets aligning and prophesying things, and nothing happened. There have been series of 'blood moons' before when nothing of great importence occurred. Thje more recent ones in history actualyl occurred sometimes a year or more after the events Hagee attributes them to. Just because the Bible says they are for signs and seasons doesn't mean that everything is a sign or season. Sometimes an ecplise is just an eclipse.This is the same kind of assumption that Calvinists use to say "God is sovereign, we are evil: so that automatically means we have no free will to choose to receive salvation and it is God who chooses who will live and who will die. The first part is true, the second part is not to be found in scripture and is based on man's interpretations of it. Yes, signs ans seasons, but also, the Lord will let us know WHICH signs and seasons to look for through His signs in the heavens-He doesn't leave us guessing as to which will mean something. And He has told us of ONE blood moon, accompanied by a black sun and other signs, and THOSE are the ones we are concerned with. And my belief is, it won't be a lunar eclipse that we can know is coming, but will be something unexpected, and possibly based not on and eclipse at all-perhaps an eruption of a volcano, or ALL the volcanoes? THAT would cause a red moon! Maybe the mountain burning with fire spoken of in Revelation? Alan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Invicta Posted April 16, 2015 Members Share Posted April 16, 2015 Then you believe the signs Jesus gave us for the day of the Lord in Matthew 24:7-8 are also the signs for the rapture.No, the signs in Matt were regarding the then coming of the destruction of Jerusalem. Genevanpreacher 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Eric Stahl Posted April 17, 2015 Author Members Share Posted April 17, 2015 No, the signs in Matt were regarding the then coming of the destruction of Jerusalem.Jesus told us that the coming war in 70AD was not the end or even a sign of the end Matthew 24:6 Alan and Ronda 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Alan Posted April 17, 2015 Members Share Posted April 17, 2015 Matthew 24:6, "And ye shall hear of wars and rumors of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet."Eric is correct. Ronda 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Covenanter Posted April 17, 2015 Members Share Posted April 17, 2015 Mat. 24:1 And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple.2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.According to Jesus, the "signs" he listed are not signs of the end, nor of anything else apart from a troubled world. They've been going on for thousands of years, & will continue until Jesus returns. They did not end with the destruction of AD 70. Later in the chapter he does give specific signs relating to the destruction, so that the Christians would know when to flee the city. Genevanpreacher 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Eric Stahl Posted April 17, 2015 Author Members Share Posted April 17, 2015 Mat. 24:1 And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple.2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.According to Jesus, the "signs" he listed are not signs of the end, nor of anything else apart from a troubled world. They've been going on for thousands of years, & will continue until Jesus returns. They did not end with the destruction of AD 70. Later in the chapter he does give specific signs relating to the destruction, so that the Christians would know when to flee the city. Did you miss reading Matthew 24:3 The signs are for the end of the world and the coming of Jesus to set up his kingdom. The world did not end in 70 AD. Ronda 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MountainChristian Posted April 17, 2015 Members Share Posted April 17, 2015 If I gave an employee a raise and after a year he found a rock in the pasture that looked like George Washington's head and went about town telling people it was sign he got a raise a year earlier people would think he wasn't all there. They would say but you had more money in your paycheck for a year. Well saying the blood moons are a sign of events that happened before they appeared is the same thing. Using that logic the rapture happened in 2013. Genevanpreacher 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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