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Revelation 20:4-6, “The Millennial Reign of Christ.”

Or

“The Covenants of God Fulfilled.”

Verse 4, And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had receive his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived with and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

Verse 5, But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

Verse 6, Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection on such the second death hath no power, but they shall priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

‘And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them...’

The Lord Jesus as, ‘KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS,’ begins His one thousand year reign on the face of the earth at Jerusalem with the establishment of the saints who served Him rewarded with, ‘thrones.’ These thrones are set in the different countries to rule and reign under, and with, the Lord Jesus; 2 Timothy 2:12

In Revelation 11:15 we read, “And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, the kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.”

The Millennial Reign of Christ begins.

The Reign is the fulfillment of Daniel 7:9 and 10, 13 and 14

“I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him before him. And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all peoples, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.” Daniel 7:13 and 14

The Kingdom is the fulfillment of Daniel 2:44 and 45

David will sit on his throne as king, and as prince, over all land promised to Abraham and Jacob.

The Lord Jesus will be, ‘KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS,’ over all the earth with His throne will be placed in Jerusalem.

The saints, both Old Testament and New Testament saints, including the Tribulation saints, who are rewarded with, ‘thrones,’ will rule over the various countries of the earth. This also fulfills the teaching of Paul the Apostle in 1 Corinthians 6:2 and 3, “Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and it the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? Know ye not that we shall judge angels? How much more things that pertain to this life?”

For some promises of the Lord Jesus and the teaching of Paul concerning reigning with Christ in the Millennium study Matthew 24:14-23; 25:14-30; 31:46, Romans 8:17, Ephesians 1:18 and 2 Timothy 2:12

The nations left from going through the Tribulation Period, and were not in the battle of Revelation 19:11-21, will be judged, Matthew 25:31-46

Glory Hallelujah! Praise the Lord! Come Lord Jesus!

‘... the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus and for the word of God...’

In Revelation 6:9-11 we read of how these Tribulation saints were martyred for not taking the mark of the Beast due to their testimony of faith in Christ.

We need to note that the verbal persecution that most saints receive in these last days is mild indeed compared to the persecution of the Tribulation saints. “Ye have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin.” Hebrews 12: 4 The Tribulation saints, resisted unto blood.”

‘... and they lived with and reigned with Christ a thousand years.’

This is fulfillment with the Covenants and promises of God in the Old Testament. Note: These covenants are not conditional and are fulfilled exactly as God promised in the Millennial Reign of Christ. And, they are ‘everlasting,’ due to the fact that after the last, and extremely short, battle of Gog and Magog in Revelation 20:8-10, does not entail the Jews being destroyed, nor the Kingdom, but the Millennium extends into eternity; i.e. the New Heavens and New Earth where the New Jerusalem is placed on the earth and the tabernacle is with men; Revelation 21:1-3.

The Old Testament, Unconditional, Covenants Fulfilled

  1. Abraham. Genesis 12:1-3; 13:14-18; chapter 15: 17:1-14. The resurrected Abraham, and his saved, descendants, will at this time inherit the land that God promised Abraham, “... and to thy seed for ever.” Genesis 15:18, “In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates.”

  2. David. “And I will ordain a place for my people Israel, and will plant them, and they shall dwell in their place, and shall be move no more; neither shall the children of wickedness waste them any more, as at the beginning.” 1 Chronicles 17:9 Please note that David is asleep and that there are no conditions of this Covenant. It will be fulfilled by God whether or not the children of Israel follow the Law or not. It is an un-conditional covenant: 1 Chronicles 17: 3-15

    Ezekiel 34:20-31; verse 23, “And I will set up one shepherd over them, and he shall feed them, even my servant David; he shall feed them, and he shall be their shepherd. And I the LORD will be their God [this is a direct reference to the Lord Jesus Christ as God], and my servant David a prince among them; I the LORD have spoken it.” 2 Samuel 7:4-17 and Psalm 89:3 and 4

  3. The Covenant of Ezekiel 37. This chapter gives the vision of the, ‘Dry Bones,’ (a picture of the future restoration of the nation of Israel in the Millennium), God gave this Covenant. Ezekiel 37:24-26, “And David my servant shall be king over them; and they shall all have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them. And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children’s children for ever: and my servant David shall be prince their prince for ever.”

  4. Confirmed to the Nation of Israel. Deuteronomy 4:31

    Prophetic Promises to be Fulfilled to the Elect Sons of Jacob in the Millennium

Special Notes

  1. All of these Changes and Blessings are Literal and take place in the Millennium.

  2. “Romans 11:5, “Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.” The nation of Israel is God’s elect. The church did not replace the Elect sons of Jacob nor do the promises to the Church in the New Testament disannul, or negate the promises to Israel. Please study Galatians 3:15-18

Isaiah 9:6 tells us there will be no end to the Kingdom. The Kingdom will continue throughout eternity.

Isaiah chapter 11 the animal kingdom will be changed among other physical blessings.

Isaiah 24:23 After the horrific happenings listed in Isiah 24:1-22 the, “... LORD of hosts shall reign in Mt Zion, and in Jerusalem, and before his ancients gloriously.”

Isaiah chapter 35 tells us of the great physical blessings in the Millennium.

Isaiah 30:18-26 blessings upon blessings!

Isaiah chapter 60 tells us that the Lord will not only restore the nation of Israel but He will glorify the nation of Israel. Isaiah 60:12, “For the nation and kingdom that will not serve thee shall perish; yes, those nations shall be utterly wasted.” May I at this juncture remind the Saved Gentiles that the church did not, ‘replace,’ Israel, but the Saved Gentiles are, ‘grafted,’ into the nation of Israel. Romans 11

Isaiah 65:17-25 tells us of the increase of longevity and, ‘... the wolf and the lamb shall feed together...’ see also Zechariah 8:1-8

Ezekiel chapter 47 tells us further great physical changes and blessings.

Hosea 3:5 David will be King over Israel.

Micah 4:1-7 tells us all nations will come to the Millennial Temple.

Zechariah chapter 3 the LORD will take away the filthy garments of the Joshua the High priest in order to serve, ‘... my servant the BRANCH.’ The, BRANCH,’ is the Lord Jesus as KING.

Zechariah 8:21-23 tells us of the restoration of the Jew to international prominence.

Zechariah 9:10 tells us how far the dominion will cover.

Zechariah 12:9-14 tell how the Jews will mourn for the previous unbelief.

Zechariah chapter 14:4-11 and 16-21 tells us of changes of the land and the nations.

Also, Joel 3:18; 2:24-26, Amos 9:13, Isaiah 55:12 & 13, Psalm 67:6,

Special notes

  1. God is going to restore the land promised to Jacob to the sons of Israel, ‘forever.’

  2. David is the ‘King,’ over Israel, and, the, ‘prince.’ This is a direct reference to the, ‘prince,’ in the restored Temple; Ezekiel 44:1-3

‘This is the first resurrection.’

This is in fulfillment of Revelation 14:14-20. One harvest is the resurrected saints and the other harvest is the armies of the Beast that are destined to be destroyed in Revelation 19:11-21

In Luke 14:14 Jesus refers to it as the...”resurrection of the just.”

In John 5:27-29 Jesus refers this to as the, “resurrection of life.”

The Resurrection of the Body of the Saints are referred to as a, ‘harvest.”

In the Old Testament, there are three harvests in most crops whether from the ground or in a bush or tree.

Before I continue I must make the following qualifying statement. Until the modern advent of harvesting wheat, grain crops or fruit by mechanical machines, the harvesting of fruit and crops were done by human hands wielding a sickle.

The following is the normal Biblical picking of the harvest. It does not necessarily correspond to modern machine harvesting methods.

  1. The Firstfruits; fruit that ripens early or that can be picked early.

  2. The harvest. This would be the main body of the fruit of the harvest.

  3. The Gleanings. This is the part of the harvest that ripens late, or is left on the ground, either intentionally, or unintentionally, by the harvesters. In the Book of Ruth we see this type of harvest where there were gleanings from the harvest of Boaz.

    In Leviticus 19:9 God commanded the Jews to leave a gleaning from every harvest. “And when ye reap the harvest of your land, thou shalt not wholly reap the corners of the field, neither shalt thou gather the gleanings of thy harvest.” The resurrection, ’gleanings of the harvest,’ is a type of the third harvest of the, ‘first resurrection.’ This is the resurrection of the Tribulation saints; Revelation 14:14-16

    The Order of the Harvest of the Saints

In the Resurrection Chapter, 1 Corinthians 15, we read in 15:23, “But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ’s at his coming.” The Resurrection of the Saved is done in order.

  1. ‘Christ the firstfruits.’ The Resurrection of Christ, Matthew 28:1-11 and of, ‘many bodies of the saints,’ Matthew 27:52 and 53. There was a portion, not all of, the Old Testament saints.

  2. ‘... afterward they that are Christ’s at his coming.’ 1 Corinthians 15:51 and 52; 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18. Church Age saints.

  3. ‘...then cometh the end...’ The gleanings are the Tribulation saints, the rest of the Old Testament saints, and would include the saints that died in the Millennial Reign of Christ, but raised afterward.

‘... on such the second death hath no power...’

In John 5:27-29 Jesus refers to this as the, ‘...resurrection of damnation...’ The resurrection of the dead who went to hell, from Adam to Revelation 20:10 will be raised from hell and judged at the Great White Throne of Judgment, Revelation 20:11-15

Sin and Death are not destroyed during the Millennium

Please take very careful doctrinal note. There are two items not, ‘destroyed,’ or, ‘restored,’ during the Millennial Reign of Christ.

  1. Sin. The nations that escaped the horrible conditions of the Tribulation Period and entered the Millennial Reign are not all saved. They are still sinners that need salvation. The children born in the Millennium need to be saved by faith as in earlier dispensations.

  2. Death. Even though disease, war, famines, are, for the most part, eliminated through the wise reign of Christ; the Law of God is still in effect and people still die.

Therefore, even though the Lord Jesus will reign for one thousand years, and the world will see untold peace, rest, safety, long life and long health, the Old Sin Nature of a lot of people have not been redeemed. The Old Nature is sinful and death is the final result.

The prophet Isaiah gave this prophetic warning concerning those who will live in the Millennium,  but will reject eternal redemption of their soul through the one and eternal sacrifice of the Lord Jesus as payment for their sins. Isaiah 26:9 and 10, “With my soul have I desired thee in the night; yea, with my spirit within me will I seek thee early: for when thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the earth will learn righteousness. Let thy favour be shewed to the wicked, yet will he not learn righteousness: in the land of uprightness will he deal unjustly, and will not behold the majesty of the LORD.”

‘...priests of God and of Christ...’

The Fulfillment of Ezekiel chapter 40-48

The Prophecy of Ezekiel chapter 40-48 will be fulfilled (to the jot and tittle), during the Millennial reign of Christ. The one thousand years is literal, the Temple is literal, the sacrifices, the feast days, the Sabbath, et al, are literal.

Including

The Physical Manifestation of the Glory of God will be in the Holy of Holies as in the days of Moses, King David and King Solomon. Ezekiel 43:1-6. Ezekiel 43:4, “So the spirit took me up, and brought me into the inner court; and, behold, the glory of the LORD filled the house.” At that time, the prophecy of Habakkuk 2:20 will also be fulfilled, “But the LORD is in his holy temple: let all the earth keep silence before him.” Amen! Glory Hallelujah! Praise the Lord!

In the Church Age every believer is a spiritual priest offering up spiritual sacrifices to God, 2 Peter 2:5

There will be priests in the Millennial Temple as prophesied by Ezekiel in Ezekiel chapter 40-48 the sacrifices will be for remembrance, and teaching, of the one and only effectual sacrifice for sins: the death of the Lord Jesus on the Cross of Calvary. Hebrews chapter 9 and 10 and Galatians chapter 3-5. Ezekiel 44:23, “And they shall teach my people the difference between holy and profane, and cause them to discern between the unclean and the unclean.” The sacrifices are not for salvation; but for teaching.

In Ezekiel 48:11-14 God gives us the names of the priests: the sons of Zodak.

The sinner will be instructed by the priests in the Temple the salvation aspects of the sacrifice of the Lord Jesus Christ. If the sinner accepts the Lord Jesus Christ as his sacrifice for sins then he is redeemed by the blood of the Lamb. Please study Leviticus chapter 1 and Ezekiel 44:7-9. Moses, and the spiritual Jews, realized that the sacrifices never could take away sins. The sacrifices, like the New Testament Lord’s Supper (Communion), had been corrupted by false ministers as a means of salvation.

The sacrifices in the Millennial Temple are not for the salvation of the soul but a ‘schoolmaster,’ and, ‘a remembrance,’ of the Sacrifice of the Lord Jesus Christ. This includes the burnt offering, meat offering, peace offerings, and the daily sacrifice. See Ezekiel chapter 46

The Lord Jesus will also take away the pagan holidays of the nations of the world and re-institute, the Temple services, the Sabbath, and the feast days of the Book of Leviticus. See Ezekiel chapter 46 and 46:9-11

Zechariah chapter 14 prophesies of the Lord Jesus as King and the establishment of the feasts and sacrifices in the Book of Leviticus. Verse 9, “and the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.” Verse 16, “and it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which come against Jerusalem [Revelation 19:11-21] shall even go up year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.” Verse 21, “Yea, every pot in Jerusalem and in Judah shall be holiness unto the LORD of hosts: and all they that sacrifice shall come and take of them, and seethe therein: and in that day there shall be no more the Cananite in the house of the LORD of hosts.”

Please notice Leviticus 25:8-17; Numbers 36:4 and Joel 3:18

‘... and shall reign with him a thousand years.’

This is the third time that God emphasized that the Reign of Christ as KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS will last one thousand years. It is a literal one thousand year reign of the Lord Jesus as, ‘KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS,’ in the restored land of Israel, as prophesied by the prophets.

A Word of Warning

None of the events, places, events, nations, et al, prophesied by the Prophets, and fulfilled during the one thousand year reign of Christ are not in any way symbolic, or figurative. The doctrinal beliefs of the Jehovah’s Witnesses, the Mormons (The Church of the Latter Day Saints), the A-millennial and post-millennial of the Catholics, Presbyterians, and other denominations concerning the Millennium are in error. This includes the error of: “Preterist Theology,’ or, ‘Covenant Theology,’ or and form of, ‘Replacement Theology,’ currently being taught in ‘Christian,’ or, ‘Baptist,’ churches. The aforementioned denominations, and or, brethren, are confusing and miss-leading the lost religious people in churches and confusing the saints in the true churches.

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Brethren,

Thank you for your participation thus far and a good amiable spirit. The next lesson, Revelation 20:7-10, 'The Battle of Gog and Magog,' will be upoaded soon.

Looking forward to a good, and friendly, discussion among brethren who have a heart to learn.

Regards,

Alan 10  

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Revelation 20:7-10, “The Final Battle of God and Magog.”

Verse 7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

Verse 8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

Verse 9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

Verse 10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

‘And when the thousand years are expired...’

Again, the one thousand years are a literal one thousand years. From Revelation 20:1-7 we read very clearly the phrase, ‘one thousand years,’ six times. All of the persons, nations, and events in this passage of inspired scripture are literal and in no way symbolic, figurative, allegorical or some other manner not literal.

‘... Satan shall be loosed out of his prison...’

The bottomless pit, Hell, and the Lake of Fire, are all prisons. They house the, ‘the King’s prisoners.” The prisons of men are incomparable to the prison of God.

‘And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle...’

Satan is a deceiver and has an intense hatred for God and for the souls of men. Even though Satan has been in the bottomless pit for one thousand years he is not repentant, he still is governed by a heart of hatred, and is as deceitful as before. The, ‘four quarters,’ of the earth are all the nations; East, West, North and South. The leaders of Gog and Magog, Ezekiel 38 and 39, are the leaders of this renewed battle between Satan and his armies and God in heaven.

Ezekiel 38:1-3 is where we have the leaders of the First and Final battle.

Ezekiel 38:8-12 are primarily directed to the Second Battle.

Ezekiel 39:28 and 29 is the prophecy concerning the end of the Second Battle.

During the Millennium, millions of people who were born, and lived in great health, safety, longevity, no war, and little sickness, were discontent with the Lord Jesus and never availed themselves of the freeness of salvation.

Satan once again deceives the nations of the world to rise up in rebellion against the Lord Jesus. Again, the leaders of this rebellion is Gog and Magog.

In Ezekiel chapter 38 & 39 we read of Gog and Magog. In Ezekiel 38:1-7 the countries are listed that are allied with God and Magog (most likely Russia and her Northern allies); Persia, Ethiopia, Libya, Gomer (most likely Germany and their European allies), Togarmah (most likely Turkey), and other allied countries, Sheba, Dedan, Tarshish and their allies. The above listed countries are all in the continent of Europe and Asia Minor: Asia is mentioned in Revelation 16:12 The other continents of the world are not mentioned nor directly involved.

In Ezekiel 39:2 one sixth of these countries involved in this battle is turned back to the North country and escaped destruction. In Ezekiel 39:11-16 the land of Israel is cleansed from the slaughter of this battle.

Please take careful note of the following items:

  1. Not all of the nations of the world are involved in the first battle, Ezekiel 38:1-6; as in Revelation 19:11-21.

  2. Nor, is there a complete destruction of the armies involved in the first battle, Ezekiel 39:1-6; as in Revelation 19:11-21.

  3. After this battle the land is cleansed for six months, Ezekiel 39:8-16, and then inhabited; as what happens in Revelation 20:4-6 during the Millennium.

Therefore, the obvious conclusion is that this is the first battle God and Magog, Revelation 19:11-21, when the Lord Jesus returns as KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS. But, the scriptures plainly state that the battle after the one thousand years reign of Christ is ended with the battle of Gog and Magog.

Scriptural examples of three battles initiated by a Foreign Aggressor

Against Israel

Three Distinct Times and Separated by a period of time.

Let us turn to three other battles in the Old Testament to discover why the battle in Revelation 19:11-21, immediately preceding the Millennium and Revelation 20:7-10, immediately after the Millennium, are referenced in Ezekiel 39 and 40 as the Battle between God and Gog and Magog.

  1. 2 Samuel 13:17-25 King David and the Philistines. Please note that both times King David, a type of Christ reigning in Jerusalem, is led by the direct command of God.

  2. 1 Kings 20:1-30 Ben-hadad, King of Syria, and Israel. Please take careful note. A prophet, led by the direct command of God, told King Ahab exactly what to do. 1 Kings 30:13 and 22

  3. Isaiah 36 and 37 Sennacherib, King of Assyria, and King Hezekiah. In both battles we have King Hezekiah, also a type of Christ reigning in Israel, Isaiah, under the direct command from God in both battles, protecting Jerusalem. God plainly stated in Isaiah 37:35, “For I will defend this city to save it for my own sake, and for my servant David’s sake.” Please remember that David is ruling as King and prince in Jerusalem during the Millennial Reign of Christ.

In this second, and final battle of Gog and Magog, instead of countries within the European and Asia Minor, and Asia, all of the nations of the world are involved. Gog and Magog are the leaders of this total worldwide battle. Satan uses the new leaders of the primary two nations, Gog and Magog, in the second and final battle as he used in the first battle. The main difference is that all of the nations of the world are involved and all of the participants are slain.

‘... and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city...’

The nations of the world under the leadership of God and Magog surround the saints in the nation of Israel and the capital city, ‘the beloved city,’ in preparation to annihilate them. When the Lord Jesus reigns in Jerusalem, the city becomes, ‘beloved.’ Glory Hallelujah! May God be praised and the Lamb exalted!

All of the saints in the Millennial Reign of Christ are protected from spiritual deception and physical harm. All of the sinners in the Millennial Reign of Christ who never got saved are slain.

‘... and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them...’

The end of this final battle of God and Magog is the total destruction of every person outside the camp of the saints. Every sinner not saved during the Millennial Reign of Christ is slain. Not one person, literally, is left alive.

Scriptural Example of the Fire of God Protecting God’s Saint

As with the two battles with Gog and Magog, we have a similar situation, on a smaller scale, as an example in the Old Testament. In 2 Kings 1:9-12 we have the story of how the wicked King Ahaziah sent two different squadrons of 50 soldiers, with their captain, to capture Elijah. Both times the fifty men and their captains were slain by God using fire rained down from heaven. All of the men of war were slain by God to protect one man.

‘And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.’

Satan, and every lost person, will remain in hell for ever and ever. What a price to pay for the pleasures of sin for a season. Salvation is eternal and hell is eternal.

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My Hebrews (3) & Revelation threads have been deleted, & the mod posed the question, "Why these books & not e.g. Colossians?"

My reason for Hebrews was that from time to time people have argued that Hebrews was written for Jews in the millennium, as also Revelation, neither book being intended for the church of the present Gospel age. My concern has been to show that these books are for real, living people in the present age, for the blessing, encouragement & rebuke of every reader.  

In particular, are Christians within the new covenant in the blood of Jesus, or is the new covenant ONLY with Israel & Judah? 

That leads on to the question whether old covenant prophecy focuses on fulfilment in Jesus & his church (Jew & Gentile as one body) or on future generations of ethnic Israel, to whom the prophecies were made. 

Incidentally, under the previous incarnation of the forum, there were frequent links to studies by Morris, father & son. You & I often commented on these, but such threads had few further comments. 

I'm happy that you agreed with me regarding the blessing for those who read, hear & keep the things written in Revelation. It would be helpful if you were to explain how your teaching in this thread is for OUR blessing in the present "dispensation." 

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Revelation 20:7-10, “The Final Battle of God and Magog.”

In Ezekiel chapter 38 & 39 we read of Gog and Magog. In Ezekiel 38:1-7 the countries are listed that are allied with God and Magog (most likely Russia and her Northern allies); Persia, Ethiopia, Libya, Gomer (most likely Germany and their European allies), Togarmah (most likely Turkey), and other allied countries, Sheba, Dedan, Tarshish and their allies. The above listed countries are all in the continent of Europe and Asia Minor: Asia is mentioned in Revelation 16:12 The other continents of the world are not mentioned nor directly involved.

In Ezekiel 39:2 one sixth of these countries involved in this battle is turned back to the North country and escaped destruction. In Ezekiel 39:11-16 the land of Israel is cleansed from the slaughter of this battle.

I like the use of the terms "most likely" when referring to actual modern day nations possibly involved. Some declare emphatically that certain nations are absolutely going to be involved, which I don't believe they should, since there has been and still is much debate over just who Gog and Magog refer to. Stating an uncertainty as a possibility rather than as fact lends much more credence to a presentation.

Logically speaking, the idea of the whole world sending their military forces to invade Israel makes no sense. From a simple military view, any major world power could decimate Israel on their own; so even a small coalition containing one or more major world powers could overwhelm Israel in rather short order.

Considering these things it makes it clear the devil would have to be behind convincing the nations of the world they needed to gather their forces together against tiny Israel. Without considering God, world leaders would have to expect a very swift and decisive victory over Israel with such a force arrayed.

How foolish lost man can be, and how much the more when lost foolish men reject or consider not God, believing themselves to be the ultimate power on earth, not even noticing the ring in their nose the devil is pulling his way.

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Covenanter,

I need to spend a little more time on answering your comments; which I appreciate. Tomorrow I will answer. First, I need a cup of coffee and put on my thinking cap.

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John81,

Thank you for your thoughts and knowledge of the heart of man. Logicly speaking, for the whole world to be deceived and to attack Israel is somewhat irrational. As you pointed out, mankind can be somewhat foolish at times. I think Jeremiah 17:9 has a bearing on the irrational heart and motives of mankind, "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

I do agree with you also that sometimes we are too dogmatic on extactly who Gog and Magog, and some of the other problematic nations are. So, I tend to believe it as I have written the study.

Thank you again for your thoughts and discussion. :goodpost:

Anybody else has some thoughts on this passage of scripture? any problems which need to be addressed? any comments?

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May I suggest a solution to John's question of a world-wide attack on a tiny nation?

At present Christians & Jews are spread out all over the world as they will be during the millennium. The attacks will be against them/us wherever they/we are living. Jesus' rule is over the whole planet as King of kings & Lord of lords, so the attack on him & his people could be all over the planet - as it is today. In a world war there are many camps, even though there may be only one HQ. 

And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

Just as Jesus told the Samaritan women that true worship would be in Spirit & in truth, rather than localised on Jerusalem, we can expect that to apply in the millennium, wherever his people are. 

 

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Covenanter...

Zechariah 14 

Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.

For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.....................

And the Lord shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.

 

He ain't coming to New York, Bejing, or London and He sure ain't coming to Mecca or the Vatican... He's going to set His foot right smack in the middle of Israel. That's where it's at, bro.....Zion

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Covenanter,

I think both Hebrews and Revelation have application to all who read, study and believe the doctrines in both of the books. I am not of the persuasion that Hebrews was just written for Jews for the Tribulation period nor Revelation just for the Jews. Both Hebrews and Revelation were written for everybody. The spiritual riches in both Hebrews and Revelation is truly wonderful and to limit their scope to one class of people is not of the Lord. “All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.” 2 Timothy 3:16 and 17 Both Hebrews and Revelation have blessings, promises, words of encouragement to every saint in every age.

Concerning your question concerning the Covenant (Testament); Hebrews 8:8-13; 9:14-28; 10:20; and 12:24-29. In order to adequately cover this aspect of the work of Christ, and prophecy, we need a whole new thread and not in this study.

To your last question concerning why this thread is a blessing to our present, “dispensation.” It is a blessing in the area of encouragement to know that God will fulfill His promises, to the saved in the Old Testament, and to the saints in the New Testament, in an orderly manner and to conclude the Plan of God as revealed by the prophets. I, as most saints, receive a personal blessing from every word in Revelation: whether it is directed to the Church Age or to the Nation of Israel. Thank you for your comments.

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Heartstrings,

Amen and Amen!

Zechariah plainly prophesied, eight times in Zechariah chapter 14, (Zechariah 14:2,4,11,12,14,16,17,and 21), that the city would be Jerusalem.

Thank you for bringing out this important aspect of extactly where the Lord Jesus will reign as King.

Any further thoughts, comments, or areas of discussion?

 

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Verse 4, And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had receive his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived with and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

Happening today is it not? more and more Christians dying for there faith

 

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The countries of the world are preparing for the one world government by instituting State Persecution of the saints. It will culminate in the beheadings as we read in Revelation 20:4

Thank you Paul for your insight in this verse. :goodpost:

Any other thoughts somebody would like to bring out? or points in the passage that needs clarification?

 

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1 Thess 4

16  For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17  Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18  Wherefore comfort one another with these words. 

 

Sometimes the Lord gives us information that is not immediately relevant for us, but it is prospective information to encourage and/or comfort us.

Not everything in God's Word is specifically relevant in the present time: some is for our learning from past record, some is for our comfort from future prospect.

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The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be.

Look how long it took for this verse to come alive.

The Jews are looking for Messiah Ben David. Will the anti-Christ call the Jews home and rebuild the temple, tricking the people into believing he is the Messiah? Will the anti-Christ be Jewish and be Hasidic? Would they accept a Messiah who converted to Judaism from another religion?

In the reign of the King of Kings will everyone speak the same language? The curse of Babel lifted? With so many other curses lifted why isn't this one mentioned?

 

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MountainChristian,

You brought out a very interesting comment on the long length of time some of the prophecies take to be fulfilled. This reminds me of Galatians 4:4, "But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law." God will fulfill His will in His own time that He has predetermined. We need to wait upon the LORD.

You also brought out some interesting questions. The one question that I think I can answer is that I do not think the nations will speak the same language in the reign of Christ; but I believe when the KIngdom is extended into eternity, Revelation 21:1, and the tabernacle of God is on the earth, Revelation 20:3, then all people will speak the same language. At that time the curse of Babel and the different languages will be lifted.

I believe Zephaniah prophesied of Revelation 21:1-3 when he said, "Therefore wait ye upon me, saith the LORD, until the day that I rise up to the prey: for my determination is to gather the nations, that I may assemble the kingdoms, to pour upon them mine indignation, even all my fierce anger: for all the earth shall be devoured with the fire of my jealousy. For then will I turn to the people a pure language, that they may call upon the name  of the LORD, to serve him with one consent." Zepthaniah 3:8 and 9 Please remember that Zephaniah, as a prophet, prophesies of not only of the Tribulation period, the Millenium but also Eternity.  

Excellent question.:th_tiphat: Does anybody have any other comments on the language question that MountainChristian brought up?

Any other insight on what has been discussed thus far? or, any other aspects of this lesson you would like to bring out?

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Brethren,

Thus far the studies, the discussions, and the friendly spirit, has been an encouragement to me and I hope to you also. :)

Any last thoughts, or comments, before I post the next lesson on Revelation 20:11-15, "The Great White Throne of Judgment?" 

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Verse 4, And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had receive his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived with and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

Happening today is it not? more and more Christians dying for there faith

 

​Yes - & throughout the Gospel age of grace. Jesus warned his followers of tribulation in John 16:33

John sees the souls of the martyrs, a spiritual resurrection that saves us from hell - John 5:24-25 The spiritual resurrection is distinct from the physical, bodily resurrection - John 5:28-29

Several times in Revelation John sees saints in heaven - e.g. Rev. 5:8-10 Rev. 6:9-11 Rev. 7:9-17

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Revelation 20:11-15

“The Great White Throne of Judgment.”

Verse 11-15, “And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.”

‘And I saw a great white throne...’

God is Great, Psalm 48:1 And the, ‘White,’ throne is a literal pure, white throne that also speaks of the Purity, Holiness, and Righteousness of God. God sits on His throne and judges, ‘righteously.’ The throne of God is a Holy Throne. “God reigneth over the heathen: God sitteth upon the throne of his holiness.” Psalm 47:8

The prophecy of Daniel 7:9-11 is being fulfilled, “I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire. A fiery stream issued and came forth before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened.”

God is Righteous, and Holy, in all of His thoughts; His deeds, His motives, and His character. The only thing that the Ancient of Days is interested in at the Judgement at the Great White Throne is Righteousness and the Judgment of Sin. The previous political connections, religious ceremonies, wealth of an individual, fame of an individual, social standing, and other worldly and fleshly considerations will not move, sway, or change the Judgment of God according to His righteousness and Law.

God will judge everyone by His Righteousness

God, as King, has established His throne by righteousness. “It is an abomination to kings to commit wickedness: for the throne is established by righteousness.” Proverbs 16:12

Psalm 9:4, “For thou maintained my right and my cause; thou satest in the throne judging right.”

The Righteousness of God is exceedingly superior than the righteousness of men.

Every culture, every false religion every heathen that ever lived has their own set of righteousness. The Muslim has their own set of righteousness, the Buddhist The Taoist, The Indian Guru, the American Indians, the Roman Catholic, the Mormons (the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints), the Jehovah’s Witnesses, The Seventh Day Adventist, et al. Romans 10:3

The righteous acts, motives, deeds, and thoughts of man are as, ‘filthy rags.’ “But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousness are as filthy rags; and we all do face as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.” Isaiah 64:6

 ‘... and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and heaven fled away;...‘

This judgment is not in heaven nor on earth. This is a very unique situation that is unfathomable to the human mind. It is so unique that the scriptures do not even try to explain where it takes place.

‘And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God;...’

This is the resurrection of the dead that is as spoken of in Revelation 20:6

‘And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.’

Every individual that trusted in their own works, religious ceremony, merit, thoughts, or some priest, will be judged accordingly. Those who thought that God will overlook their sins, or, who thought that, ‘their good works will outweigh their bad deeds,’ or, who thought, ‘God is a loving God and will not cast men into hell,’  and considered themselves as righteous, or more righteous, than other men, will be sadly, and eternally, be mistaken. Those who trust in their own works for salvation, and not the grace of the Lord Jesus, are tragically mistaken.

In the sight of God we are not righteous. “As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:’ Romans 3:10

Salvation, in any era, and in any country, is by faith in the mercy of God. Ephesians 2: 8 and 9

Psalm 69:28, “Let them be blotted out of the book of the living, and not be written with the righteous.” Please read the solemn words of Moses of God in Exodus 32:31 and 32

All the Dead – 「天網恢恢。

All of the cultures of the world, all of the religious denominations of the world, and of course, Christianity, believe in some sort of Final Judgment. The Chinese have a saying, 「天網恢恢。Translated that means, “Nobody escapes the judgment of Heaven."

At the Great White Throne every individual that trusted in their own form of righteousness will be judged and condemned. Every sin that they committed, every filthy thought, every filthy joke, every lie, disobedience against the Law of God, and every deceit committed, will be judged.

The Lord Jesus said, “But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they give account thereof in the day of judgment. For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.” Matthew 12:36 and 37

The eternal location of the lost, Hell, the Lake of Fire, has already been determined. The Judgment of God at this time will be for the degree of punishment in the Lake of Fire. The Lord Jesus refers to the degree of punishment as, ‘stripes.’ Please study Luke 12:47 and 48.

Lost Religious Ministers

Matthew 7:21 – 23 Throughout the Church Age there has been false prophets, false ministers, and false teachers. The Roman Catholic Church ministers who trust in the Catholic traditions instead of the Lord Jesus, the Seventh Day Adventist who trusts in their observance of the Sabbath instead of the Lord Jesus, the Charismatic Charlatans who trusted in deception, the Mormon, ‘elders,’ the Jehovah’s Witnesses ‘ministers,’ and every other cultist and lost minister, who preached in the name of Jesus, but was not saved, will hear these tragic and solemn words spoken by the Lord Jesus Christ, “And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.” Matthew 7:23

One Final Act to Glorify God

As every individual stands before God, and is condemned by his own mouth, there will be one final act that will be performed by every individual that ever lived and rejected God’s Plan of Salvation. This includes Satan himself and every man from every nation and culture. Please study Romans 1:17-32

Every individual, will bow the knee and confess before God, the Lord Jesus, the saints, and the rest of lost, that Jesus Christ is Lord. “That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ if Lord, to the glory of God the Father.” Philippians2:10 and 11

This will be in fulfillment of the prophecy of Isaiah. “I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.” Isaiah 45:23

Angels will be Judged at the time

Jude 6, “And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

2 Peter 2:4, “For if God spared not the angles that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment.”

The angels that sinned with Lucifer have been held in everlasting chains, in hell, since the time they were cast out of heaven. The teaching that the angels that were cast down co-habited with women is incorrect, a myth, and a fantasy. It is sad that this incorrect interpretation of scripture has infiltrated the ranks of the independent Baptist movement.

Imputed Righteousness by Faith

From Genesis through the Millennial Saints

When a person, in a true belief of the heart, Romans 10:10, and, by faith, accepts the Lord Jesus as their Saviour: God imputes to that person the Righteousness of Christ. 2 Corinthians 5:21 and Romans 4:1-8, 22-25. A person is not saved by any form of works: but by the grace of the Lord Jesus. Ephesians 2:8 and 9.Therefore, he is righteous in the sight of God: 1 Corinthians 1:30 Glory hallelujah! Thank you Lord Jesus!

‘And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.”

Very Important Note:

Millennial Saints

The multitude of people in the Millennial Reign of Christ, who died during the Millennium, or who lived until the Millennium ended, will be judged for rewards at this time. This in one of the reasons why the Book of Life will be opened. These saints are part of the, ‘gleanings,’ in the harvest of souls.

“And I entreat thee also, true yoke-fellow, help those women which labored with me in the gospel, with Clement also, and with other fellow-laborers, whose names are in the book of life.” Philippians 4:3

The Lost

“The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.” Psalm 9:17

Job said, “That the wicked is reserved to the day of destruction? They shall be brought forth to the day of wrath. Job 21:30

God is a merciful God; but He is also a God of Judgment against all sin. John 3:36

God will not recognize the repentance of anybody after death nor at the Great White Throne of Judgment.

In the great prophecy of the resurrection of the saints, and how God will redeem those who trust in Him; see 1 Corinthians 15:55, God expressly said that He will not acceptance repentance after death. Hosea13:14, “I will ransom them from the power of the grave; I will redeem them from death: O Death, I will be thy plagues; O grave, I will be thy destruction: repentance shall be hid from mine eyes.” Remember the rich man in hell; Luke 16:19-31?

At the end of the Judgment the lost from Hell are cast into the Lake of Fire.

The Great White Throne of Judgment will be a solemn and tragic period in history.

Conclusion of the Judgment

After the casting of the lost into the Lake of Fire, the universe will be cleansed of all sin, evil, and Satan; death will no more trouble the human race and God will lift the curse of Genesis 3.

“The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.” 1 Corinthians 15:26

Glory Hallelujah! Praise the Lord! At that time, all of us may just have a, ‘Baptist Fit.” Amen and Amen!

And, Glory Hallelujah, afterwards, the redeemed will enter into the New Heavens and the New Earth.

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Brethren,

Looking forward to continuing the lessons. Our next lesson will be on Revelation 21:1-8. 'The New Heaven and the New Earth.'

Any comments or points of discussion before we continue? Some of the previous discussions and thoughts were very good. :D

Alan

 

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