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Most recent and all prior elections, God's will was done. Even if He permitted heathens in past elections it was His will they were promoted. We need to praise God for allowing us to have a nation which is governed by our constitution and permits us an opportunity to select representative people to uphold this nation He has entrusted us with.

 

Thank all those who took the effort to seek God's wisdom and then followed through in thankfulness by submitting a ballot. 

 

 

 

 

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My faith is fully in God and I pray for our leadership as Scripture commands.

 

Unfortunately, we don't live in a country that is governed by the Constitution and we actually have very little to say in who represents us, especially on the national level.

 

Even so, I cast my ballot according to the rules the Democrats and Republicans have established, with the exceedingly limited "choice" of two, sometimes three candidates to choose from; and in some cases only one.

 

Sadly, the vast majority of voters are uninformed, sometimes even clueless, and they make their choices based upon tradition, emotions or whatever sounds good. That's why so many bad amendments, initiatives and such get voted in. Maybe 10-20% of the voters actually understand what they are voting on while the rest vote emotional. Very sad.

 

Even so, God's will shall be done and our eternity is secure in Christ.

 

The Bible is clear the direction the world is heading in, and thankfully it's also clear what the final outcome shall be.

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I cast my ballot according to the rules the Democrats and Republicans have established,

 John, read your constitution, your ballot was cast in accordance with it, not rules established by political parties. Keep voting, it doesn't matter what the "rest vote" only what would glorify our Father which is in heaven.

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 John, read your constitution, your ballot was cast in accordance with it, not rules established by political parties. Keep voting, it doesn't matter what the "rest vote" only what would glorify our Father which is in heaven.

Actually, the Constitution simply says we can vote, and the Constitution provided for limited voting. Since then the Constitution has been changed to allow virtually anyone 18 or older to vote. After that, it's the Dems and Repubs who have established the details with regards to voting. The Two Parties control the voting process.

 

I vote in each election and trust God as all things are in His hands.

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I am of e opinion that God's will was not done in the elections. God's will is not that we look to ungodly men to counsel and rule over us. His will is that we walk in His ways.

Today's elections are no different than in Samuel's day. They did not want to live according to God's will. Rather, they wanted a king to rule over them.

Yes, we are told to OBey authorities. But the reason we are told to OBey them is because we chose them as our leaders instead of choosing God.

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God allows.  It isn't God's will for the garbage that goes on. His Word is quite clear about His holiness. He has used evil in the past to bring about change, that is for sure. But that doesn't make it His will. It makes it His allowance.  Just as in the elections here in this country...

 

Government is what God ordained.  Government. That is what Romans 13 is teaching.

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The 'powers that be" includes the person. Not just the position. Also remember:

 

The king's heart is in the hand of the LORD, as the rivers of water: he turneth it whithersoever he will.  (Prov 21:1). Not the heart of the office.

 

See, the way I understand it, is that the Lord, from the beginning, had a plan, and He has arranged everything to go as it should. The powers that be, whether king, prince, emperor or president, all of them, in their good and evil, are used of God to bring about His will. It was God who sent the lying spirit to the prophets, and the Lord that sent wicked nebuchadnezzar as His sword to punish Israel, and the Lord that sent an evil spirit to trouble Saul. The Lord is not the author of evil, but He can control it and cause it to do His will.

 

I don't try to understand it all, because it doesn't make sense to me, but the Bible seems clear. For Pharoahto harden his heart against God was sin, yet it was God who hardened it. I don't get it, but there it is. Not mine to understand, just to accept. I also believe that God used hitler and his wickedness to bring such tragedy upon the Jews, that the world could no longer stand idly by, and thus, brought them back to their land after 1900 years. 

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Pharaoh hardened his own heart first, just FYI...he chose the way he was going to go before God ever hardened his heart (I would call that kind of equivalent to how Christians are today...when a Christian repeatedly turns away from OBeying God, He quits dealing with them - and I would most certainly say that when God quits working with someone their hearts are hardened, and consciences seared).

 

I didn't say anything about position.  I said government.  God ordained government because man needs it. He did not state that there was a certain style of government or even certain people who should or should not govern.  

 

God has used evil to bring about things, but that does not mean it is His will.  He allows it.   God allows the government a people seeks - we see that clearly with Israel choosing an earthly king.  Sadly, here in America, too many people have been convinced that a socialistic government is great and good, and too many people who know better are too lazy to do anything about it.  That's God's allowance, but not His will. His will would be that nations seek Him and serve Him. 

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Pharaoh hardened his own heart first, just FYI...he chose the way he was going to go before God ever hardened his heart (I would call that kind of equivalent to how Christians are today...when a Christian repeatedly turns away from OBeying God, He quits dealing with them - and I would most certainly say that when God quits working with someone their hearts are hardened, and consciences seared).

 

I didn't say anything about position.  I said government.  God ordained government because man needs it. He did not state that there was a certain style of government or even certain people who should or should not govern.  

 

God has used evil to bring about things, but that does not mean it is His will.  He allows it.   God allows the government a people seeks - we see that clearly with Israel choosing an earthly king.  Sadly, here in America, too many people have been convinced that a socialistic government is great and good, and too many people who know better are too lazy to do anything about it.  That's God's allowance, but not His will. His will would be that nations seek Him and serve Him. 

No, God ordained government because man chose it over Him.

 

as for Pharaoh, Romans 9:17 states "For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth."  Pharaoh fulfilled the will of God-his hardening was never fully of himself-that was why God raised him up. Now, does God just USE that evil, foreknown, or did God, in what He says here, actually WILL it to be so?  And I'm not getting Calvinistic here, just it seems that those in power don't seem to have the same free will everyone else does, Since the Lord DOES say that the Lord turns his heart withersoever He will. Sounds like control, not just working His will through ours.  

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Dan 4:25  That they shall drive thee from men, and thy dwelling shall be with the beasts of the field, and they shall make thee to eat grass as oxen, and they shall wet thee with the dew of heaven, and seven times shall pass over thee, till thou know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will. 

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John 19:10-11 (KJV)
10  Then saith Pilate unto him, Speakest thou not unto me? knowest thou not that I have power to crucify thee, and have power to release thee?
11  Jesus answered, Thou couldest have no power at all against me, except it were given thee from above: therefore he that delivered me unto thee hath the greater sin.

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