Members evangelist6589 Posted October 9, 2014 Members Share Posted October 9, 2014 Anyone had much experience with it? http://www.st-andrew-umc.com What of the church above what do you say about them? Heretical or orthodox? I send letters to as many false churches as I can in an attempt to evangelize them and I also include gospel tracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Alimantado Posted October 9, 2014 Members Share Posted October 9, 2014 It takes a bit of digging to find anything explicit about what that church believes. Are you talking about this bit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John81 Posted October 9, 2014 Members Share Posted October 9, 2014 It takes a bit of digging to find anything explicit about what that church believes. Are you talking about this bit? Well that "bit" is a major prOBlem and totally contrary to Scripture. A few years ago the UMC ran ads telling everyone about their totally open nature in the hopes of filling their pews. It had the opposite effect so the ads ceased. Most UMC churches have serious and major prOBlems in their theology and the way they run their church and grant membership. Those which have adopted this "Reconciling Congregation" approach go even further astray. These congregations allow open sinners, even openly non-Christians, to become members and hold positions within the church. No mention of their sin, the lost state of their souls, just tolerance, acceptance and promotion of their sin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ukulelemike Posted October 9, 2014 Moderators Share Posted October 9, 2014 I thought 'reconciling' meant to reconcile one with the Lord through salvation in Jesus Christ, thus, meaning recognizing and repenting of sin that has separated us from God, and being born again through Jesus Christ. What is this group seeking to reconcile anyone to? Just a place in the pews? They must think themselves pretty special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John81 Posted October 9, 2014 Members Share Posted October 9, 2014 I thought 'reconciling' meant to reconcile one with the Lord through salvation in Jesus Christ, thus, meaning recognizing and repenting of sin that has separated us from God, and being born again through Jesus Christ. What is this group seeking to reconcile anyone to? Just a place in the pews? They must think themselves pretty special. Their idea of "reconciling" is to toss the doors open, welcome anyone and anything, no questions asked, everyone having a hugfest and pretend all is well and good. It has nothing to do with Christ or Christianity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members evangelist6589 Posted October 9, 2014 Author Members Share Posted October 9, 2014 It takes a bit of digging to find anything explicit about what that church believes. Are you talking about this bit? Exactly! Thanks. A false church no doubt. I have a Chic Cartoon tract to send them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Salyan Posted October 9, 2014 Moderators Share Posted October 9, 2014 Quote regarding their use of the labyrinth, The labyrinth is an ancient mystical tool that can help bring about personal transformation through prayer and meditation. Most labyrinths are in the form of a circle with a meandering but purposeful path from the edge to the center and back out again---large enough to be walked into. Each has only one path and once we make the choice to enter it, the path becomes a metaphor for our journey through life. Labyrinths have been known to the human race for over four thousand years. They are mysterious because we do not know the origin of their design, or exactly how they provide a space that allows for clarity. It is believed the labyrinth design evolved out of the spiral figure found in nature. 'Reconciling' statement instead of statement of faith, communion available to any who come, baptism defined as: Baptism is the sacrament of initiation that joins us with the church and with Christians everywhere. It’s a symbol of new life, a promise of God’s saving love, and a sign of God’s forgiveness of our sins. People of all ages can be baptized. The United Methodist Church recognizes all baptisms, therefore there is no need to re-baptize someone who has been baptized in another church or faith tradition. Baptism joins with the church? No rebaptism required for those from other faiths? Oh, yeah... they're heretical. It's funny how baptism, although not required for salvation, is yet such a plumbline for dividing the true from the false. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members evangelist6589 Posted October 9, 2014 Author Members Share Posted October 9, 2014 Quote regarding their use of the labyrinth,The labyrinth is an ancient mystical tool that can help bring about personal transformation through prayer and meditation. Most labyrinths are in the form of a circle with a meandering but purposeful path from the edge to the center and back out again---large enough to be walked into. Each has only one path and once we make the choice to enter it, the path becomes a metaphor for our journey through life. Labyrinths have been known to the human race for over four thousand years. They are mysterious because we do not know the origin of their design, or exactly how they provide a space that allows for clarity. It is believed the labyrinth design evolved out of the spiral figure found in nature. 'Reconciling' statement instead of statement of faith, communion available to any who come, baptism defined as: Baptism is the sacrament of initiation that joins us with the church and with Christians everywhere. It’s a symbol of new life, a promise of God’s saving love, and a sign of God’s forgiveness of our sins. People of all ages can be baptized. The United Methodist Church recognizes all baptisms, therefore there is no need to re-baptize someone who has been baptized in another church or faith tradition. Baptism joins with the church? No rebaptism required for those from other faiths? Oh, yeah... they're heretical.It's funny how baptism, although not required for salvation, is yet such a plumbline for dividing the true from the false. You have given me come good things to address in my letter at an attempt to reason. However I want to primarily hit the homosexuality issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Covenanter Posted October 9, 2014 Members Share Posted October 9, 2014 Quote regarding their use of the labyrinth, The labyrinth is an ancient mystical tool that can help bring about personal transformation through prayer and meditation. Most labyrinths are in the form of a circle with a meandering but purposeful path from the edge to the center and back out again---large enough to be walked into. Each has only one path and once we make the choice to enter it, the path becomes a metaphor for our journey through life. Labyrinths have been known to the human race for over four thousand years. They are mysterious because we do not know the origin of their design, or exactly how they provide a space that allows for clarity. It is believed the labyrinth design evolved out of the spiral figure found in nature. What an amazing redefinition - Labyrinth definition. In classical mythology, a vast maze on the island of Crete. The great inventor Daedalus designed it, and the king of Crete kept the Minotaur in it. Very few people ever escaped from the Labyrinth. The whole point of the labyrinth - & any labyrinth - is to get any who enter it hopelessly lost. Seems appropriate for such a "church." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Salyan Posted October 10, 2014 Moderators Share Posted October 10, 2014 Ha - good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members evangelist6589 Posted October 10, 2014 Author Members Share Posted October 10, 2014 I am working on my letter at this time. I am also including some gospel tracts. A tract on Homosexuality by Chic Tracts--They hit the topic hard The Burning Hell-- A good tract for very prideful people caught up in their sin. Quest for Joy--A tract on Grace by John Piper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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