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Star Wars Or Star Trek?

Star Wars or Star Trek?  

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  1. 1. Star Wars or Star Trek?

    • I like Star Wars
    • I Like Star Trek
    • I like Bunnies


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Star Trek for sure.

 

I don't like the concept of "using the force" by corraling the natural forces of nature surrounding us (sounds to much like what the wiccan believe) to battle an evil being/system, as in Star Wars.  Even in the Star Wars movie one of the emperors officers lashed out and mocked Darth Vader's "sad devotion to that ancient religion" (Darth Vader used the "force" to strangle him, after saying he found his "lack of faith disturbing", until he was commanded to "release him")

 

Star Trek uses advanced technology and an usually solid moral compass to overcome encounters with other worlds or beings.  Even the beings are often not portrayed as inherently evil, but simply alien and naturally defending our intrusion into their world and culture, or they are simply "criminal" individuals.  

 

I do like bunnies though..especially fricasseed or braised, or an excellent Hosenpfeffer (rabbit stew).  

 

Bro.  Garry

Edited by 2bLikeJesus

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I was gonna vote Star Trek until I noticed the option for bunnies. 

 

The only thing I like about Star Wars are the light sabers and Darth Vaders theme song. The story line was all over the place and most of the main characters weren't very likable. Chewbacca had some compelling lines though.

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Star Trek for sure.

 

I don't like the concept of "using the force" by corraling the natural forces of nature surrounding us (sounds to much like what the wiccan believe) to battle an evil being/system, as in Star Wars.  Even in the Star Wars movie one of the emperors officers lashed out and mocked Darth Vader's "sad devotion to that ancient religion" (Darth Vader used the "force" to strangle him, after saying he found his "lack of faith disturbing", until he was commanded to "release him")

 

Star Trek uses advanced technology and an usually solid moral compass to overcome encounters with other worlds or beings.  Even the beings are often not portrayed as inherently evil, but simply alien and naturally defending our intrusion into their world and culture, or they are simply "criminal" individuals.  

 

I do like bunnies though..especially fricasseed or braised, or an excellent Hosenpfeffer (rabbit stew).  

 

Bro.  Garry

 

If we're gonna go down the how sacreligious route then Star Trek prOBably loses in my opinion. Star Wars was at least fairly noncommital about the nature of the force thingy and was silent about origins. Star Trek was explicit: in a Next Generation episode the audience learns that humans, klingons and a few of the other regularly featured aliens are products of an antecedent (and now extinct) alien race that planted DNA on everyone's home worlds billions of years ago.

 

Star Trek still wins, though, because of the fantastic trilogy of the second, third and fourth films (way better than the other trekky films and the TV series). The scene where Spock saves the ship at the end of Wrath of Khan--wow!

 

Never had rabbits but always wanted to see a Flemish Giant.

 

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The TV show and movies all contain their prOBlems I loved watching Star Trek as a child/youth. Eagerly looked forward to the new (then) Star Trek movie but was disappointed. The second (Wrath of Khan) was much better.

 

Yet watching the TV series or the movies now it's hard not to be bothered by the references to there being no God, science and humanity being the answer to all things, and the many liberal and PC things that weave throughout. Interesting that I didn't pick up on that stuff as a child/youth, but no doubt it was implanted in my mind at that time.

 

Star Wars does have that "force" prOBlem, which is akin to those religions which say "god" is in everything, a part of everything, the source of everything. Naturally they have the evil concept, which is also a part of the "force", or "god" of that Star Wars world. So does that make "the force" bi-polar or what?

 

While Star Trek came from an era when science and space exploration were to be the ultimate salvation of man, and therefore glorifies these in such manner; Star Wars takes the approach that while science and technology have their place, it's the old ways and simple things that eventually triumph. Thus we see "ancient religion" rising up and we see the little Ewoks (or whatever they are called) with their primitive simplicity able to outwit and combat the technologically advanced Evil Empire.

 

There is entertainment in both franchises and plenty for one to like and dislike.

 

I prefer Captain Kirk over Picard. Picard never seemed to fit the part, and the first time I ever saw Next Generation I at first thought the guy Frakes played was the Captain!

 

These days I don't watch much TV or many movies but when I was younger I watched a lot of both.

 

Bunnies I really like. They are fun to watch, fun to have as a pet, fun to hunt and great eating when fried.

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Don't like bunnies.
They don't belong here.
Ruin our environment.
Take over from our native rodents and deplete their populations.
Fill the shops with coloured eggs for a few months each year.
Cause prOBlems for farmers with crops and livestock.
Even cause issues for roos by competing for feed.

Never eaten one, so I can't comment on whether or not I like them on a plate. :lol:

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I watched a program earlier this year about that very prOBlem. It was very interesting. One Aussie was using snakes to catch the bunnies. He would go out and catch some snakes, place a net over a rabbit hole, drop the snakes in other rabbit holes and wait for the fleeing bunny to hit the net while making his escape from the snake infested tunnel.

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I was going to vote Star Trek until I saw the bunny option.  We used to raise bunnies and sell them as pets, until two pit bulls got into our barn and killed them :(  I find some of your attitudes toward bunnies (the eating ones) disturbing....  except for DaveW, I completely understand where he is coming from.  Anytime you introduce an animal into an environment where it has no natural predator you are messing things up. 

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Rabbit is delicious. My grandpa used to raise rabbits and sell them for pets or eating. A tame rabbit has a different taste to it than does a wild rabbit. Fry them up just like chicken and they are very good eating.

 

That said, I wouldn't cook a pet rabbit.

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Agreed with trapperhoney about the attitude folks have when bunnies are mentioned. I'm sure they taste all kinds of wonderful and the fur can be used in many useful ways, but it can be a bit much at times, overkill if you will. When I worked at Walmart I would be chatting with coworkers during break time and a few times the pet subject came up and I would mention I had two pet rabbits that lived indoors, I was basically mocked for it (but not mocked for having indoor dogs. huh). They would say things like "the only things a rabbit is good for is fur and meat, they aren't meant to be pets." So I rarely ever brought it up unless asked directly, which they would do when they felt like making a big deal out of going rabbit hunting. (I am not against ethical hunting) Fortunately here on OB it's been light and I doubt anybody is mocking choice of pets, but sometimes the teasing does edge into not funny territory. 

 

Australia could look into beaming all those unwanted rabbits up onto a Klingon ship and see if they hate Klingons as much as tribbles do.... Although, they might take over the ship and find an entire planet to colonize... uh oh... 

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I had some pet rabbits as a child. They make fun pets, are generally clean and not much trouble. I can only speak for myself, but I don't mean any teasing or offense towards bunny lovers when I mention them as food. A bunny that is a pet, is just that, a pet, and not something I would even consider as food.

 

When I was younger much of our meat came from hunting, and this did include rabbits, but also squirrels, quail, pheasant, deer and others. As well as a good amount of meat from fishing.

 

I've not been hunting for some years now, since my Dad is unable to go and it's not a necessity for food right now, I don't hunt.

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Personally, I guess I have never thought of a rabbit as a pet, anymore than I would think of a deer, elk, bear, antelope. or even a cow as a pet.  It must be a Pacific Northwest thing. Rabbits are a source of food and fur only, in my mind.  Please forgive me if I have offended anyone who keeps rabbits or other traditionally "food" animals as pets.  I don't mean to imply that I want to eat your "Fluffy" or whatever you name your pet rabbit.   There is a reason God created rabbits with an extraordinary ability to reproduce on a massive scale like...well...rabbits.  

 

If someone owns a pot bellied pig for a pet, please forgive me for wanting some bacon right now for breakfast...

 

I guess I would make a lousy Jew since the "hare" was unclean...

 

Leviticus 11:6 (KJV)
6  And the hare, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you. 

 

Bro. Garry

Edited by 2bLikeJesus

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