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      Psalms 119:1-8                                         Sep. 5 - Oct. 2, 2019
      1 ALEPH. Blessed are the undefiled in the way, who walk in the law of the LORD.
      2 Blessed are they that keep his testimonies, and that seek him with the whole heart.
      3 They also do no iniquity: they walk in his ways.
      4 Thou hast commanded us to keep thy precepts diligently.
      5 O that my ways were directed to keep thy statutes!
      6 Then shall I not be ashamed, when I have respect unto all thy commandments.
      7 I will praise thee with uprightness of heart, when I shall have learned thy righteous judgments.
      8 I will keep thy statutes: O forsake me not utterly.
      The following verse stood out to me...
      5 O that my ways were directed to keep thy statutes!
      At first glance it seemed to me this person’s soul is poured out with intense desire to have God’s direction in keeping His Word.
      I made a small wood fire in our backyard for my granddaughter, Julia, since she would be staying overnight with us. My wife and Julia stayed outside at the fire for about half an hour. Then, I found myself alone to watch the fire die out on a particularly lovely evening. So I took my verse from above and began to repeat it for memorization. As I repeated the verse, I tried to contemplate the words and apply them to what I was seeing around me. 
      The moon and stars were out now peering through the scattered clouds above.
      [Genesis 1:16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. Genesis 1:17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, Genesis 1:18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.]
      Thought 1         
      The moon has stayed his course since the day God created him, also the stars, obeying the statutes directed by God from the first day they were created. Can you imagine God’s direction to the Moon and stars, “moon you will have a path through the sky above the earth, stars you will occupy the firmament above the moon and be clearly visible in the cloudless night sky.”
      Then, the trees, grass, even the air we breathe obey the statues God gave them from the beginning. None of these creations have souls, none have hearts, none have intelligence, but they all observe God’s statutes, His instructions for their limited time on earth.
      Thought 2
      What if we were like the moon, stars, trees, grass, or the other creations which have no soul? We would be directed to keep God’s statutes without choosing to keep them. This is not the image of God, there would be no dominion over other creatures, or over the earth. We would not be capable of experiencing the joy and peace of learning the love of God
      Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
      Philippians 4:7 And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.
      Thought 3 (October 2, 2019)
      Is the psalmist pleading God to force God’s statutes to become the man’s ways? No, he is speaking of his own failure in keeping God’s statutes and his desire to keep them, very much like Paul in Romans 7:14-25.
      God doesn’t work through force to turn men from their ways that they would desire His statutes or desire God Himself. Men must reject (repent) put aside his own ways and voluntarily seek God and His statutes.

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We don't know how the population would have grown had Adam not sinned. We don't know what measures God would have employed to control (or not control) the population. We don't know any of that...because Adam did sin...and we are dealing with the results of that.

 

What we do know is this...

 

Isaiah 45:18
For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.

 

As far as the whole session in general; I agree with a lot of what he teaches...I'm not "anti-dispensational". I've studied Dispensational Theology, and my beliefs line up with most of what I've studied...my main conflict is different methods of salvation for different dispensations.  

 

But that's me...

 

 

I think the idea is form this, Isa 9:7  Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.

No end to it. To limit it to this earth alone is to limit the increase. That being said, Isaiah 45 would not be negated if other worlds were to be populated. The population of another planet does not necessaarily mean the disoccupation of earth.

 

Besides, I know this man well, he would harldy have an issue with you if you disagreed with him on this extremely minor point.

 

I will say this, I cannot imagine the Lord employing any means to control the population since his stated purpose to Adam was to be fruitful and multiply. It doesn´t seem to suggest anywhere in the Bible that Adam´s race should only multiply until such time as there is no room

 

?????

 

God bless,

calvary
 

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Dispensational Theology does not present different means of salvation, it presents a method of acting out ones faith that is different than todays method which is based on inward Faith only on the finished work of the cross.

 

No one prior to Paul's Teaching had any idea of Christ finished work for the salvation of all men by faith alone.  The apostles knew that the death burial and resurrection was a fulfilled scriptures that Jesus was the Christ, their Messiah. We today are not required to believe Jesus is the Messiah as they were in the gospel writings.

 

Israel with the law of Moses, their faith was upon God's word and the keeping of it faithfully not only for their life in the land but for everlasting life after they died.  Not that they were justified by works but that when the Cross was finally finished that sacrifice would be retroactive to all who by faith made those sacrifices in the past.

 

The Millennial Video is quite interesting as it address the truth of sacrifices during the Kingdom.  Which many Christians just can't wrap their theology around it so they call it heresy or blasphemy.  But it is there in God's word in  Zachariah 14, many deal with it by saying it is ALL past events so doesn't apply but they would have to ignore most of the scriptures that speak on the future Kingdom we now know is 1000 years long.

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Dispensational Theology does not present different means of salvation, it presents a method of acting out ones faith that is different than todays method which is based on inward Faith only on the finished work of the cross.

No one prior to Paul's Teaching had any idea of Christ finished work for the salvation of all men by faith alone. The apostles knew that the death burial and resurrection was a fulfilled scriptures that Jesus was the Christ, their Messiah. We today are not required to believe Jesus is the Messiah as they were in the gospel writings.

Israel with the law of Moses, their faith was upon God's word and the keeping of it faithfully not only for their life in the land but for everlasting life after they died. Not that they were justified by works but that when the Cross was finally finished that sacrifice would be retroactive to all who by faith made those sacrifices in the past.

The Millennial Video is quite interesting as it address the truth of sacrifices during the Kingdom. Which many Christians just can't wrap their theology around it so they call it heresy or blasphemy. But it is there in God's word in Ezk 14, many deal with it by saying it is ALL past events so doesn't apply but they would have to ignore most of the scriptures that speak on the future Kingdom we now know is 1000 years long.

Ezekiel 14?

Is that the right chapter?

I'm sorry, but there is no prophecy of the coming kingdom in Ezekiel 14.
Perhaps you meant a different chapter?

I'm trying to follow.
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I think the idea is form this, Isa 9:7  Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.

No end to it. To limit it to this earth alone is to limit the increase. That being said, Isaiah 45 would not be negated if other worlds were to be populated. The population of another planet does not necessaarily mean the disoccupation of earth.

 

Besides, I know this man well, he would harldy have an issue with you if you disagreed with him on this extremely minor point.

 

I will say this, I cannot imagine the Lord employing any means to control the population since his stated purpose to Adam was to be fruitful and multiply. It doesn´t seem to suggest anywhere in the Bible that Adam´s race should only multiply until such time as there is no room

 

?????

 

God bless,

calvary
 

 

Perhaps I chose poor wording, but I was trying to be discreet. I'll just come out and say it though...by "control the population", I meant that we don't know how often ovulation would have occurred before sin. We just don't know.  There are many factors that could have changed due to the curse from sin entering into the world.

 

Moving into outer space seems far-fetched to me since the Bible says that earth is what God created to be inhabited. Again, we don't know what God's plan was...all that we can do is speculate...

 

Move to outerspace...or...

God would cause the earth to grow in size as the population grew...or...

Women only ovulated once a year, or ten years, or one hundred years, etc.

 

Anyway, I want you to know that I'm not arguing with you. Just explaining my position.

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That is an interesting thought. I've often noted that in many cases where Scripture tells us when a man's first child was born, they were a good many years old by then. Were maturity rates different then?

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Paul never taught that " belief or faith" on Jesus as "the Son of God" got anyone saved.

 

 We today are not required to believe Jesus is the Messiah as they were in the gospel writings.

 

Gentiles don't have Jesus as the Son of God or the Messiah (anointed one). When this "rightly divided" is done will there be any Jesus left? 

 

Can we deny part of Jesus? No, not if we are saved.

Mat 10:33
But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

Timothy 2:2

12If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:
 
(That covers both ages)
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Ezekiel 14?

Is that the right chapter?

I'm sorry, but there is no prophecy of the coming kingdom in Ezekiel 14.
Perhaps you meant a different chapter?

I'm trying to follow.

Ezekiel 14:21-23 is a clear prophecy of the AD 70 destruction, and closely parallels Revelation 6:8
Compare the sealing in Ezekiel 9 with Revelation 7 also.

The time indicated by Revelation 1:1-3 is soon after the vision and before the destruction. Try reading with that understanding.
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That is an interesting thought. I've often noted that in many cases where Scripture tells us when a man's first child was born, they were a good many years old by then. Were maturity rates different then?

 

I don't know John...I was just speculating.

 

By the way, I'm not implying that I hold to any of those speculations that I mentioned. My point was, we just don't know what God's original plan was before sin entered the world.  

 

My personal view about there being "no end" to the Lord's kingdom just means that when the Lord becomes King, his kingdom will last forever.

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Gentiles don't have Jesus as the Son of God or the Messiah (anointed one). When this "rightly divided" is done will there be any Jesus left? 

 

Can we deny part of Jesus? No, not if we are saved.

Mat 10:33
But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

Timothy 2:2

12If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:
 
(That covers both ages)

 

Does anyone get saved today because they believe Jesus is the Christ?  or the son of God? or the Messiah?

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Ezekiel 14?

Is that the right chapter?

I'm sorry, but there is no prophecy of the coming kingdom in Ezekiel 14.
Perhaps you meant a different chapter?

I'm trying to follow.

I am sorry it was the wrong book it is Zachariah 14

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Does anyone get saved today because they believe Jesus is the Christ?  or the son of God? or the Messiah?

 

 

John 20:31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

 

If you wasn't saved by belief, how was you saved?

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So where would the population of earth ended if there had been no sin and no death coming into the world? after 6 or 7 thousand years we´d be piled up upon each other with no room at all.... sort of makes sense that God never intended to confine man to this earth alone.....

 

Genesis 3:16 (KJV)
16  Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

 

In the beginning it was not intended for Eve to have conception nearly as often as after the fall.  Because of death, God greatly multiplied Eve's conception.  I believe the earth would not have experienced the population explosion you invision had their been no fall and death by sin.  Brothers and sisters born consecutively could be aged 100's of years apart.  

 

It will be interesting to know for sure when we get to heaven and are given perfect knowledge. 

 

Bro. Garry

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Does anyone get saved today because they believe Jesus is the Christ?  or the son of God? or the Messiah?

 

Jesus Christ IS the Messiah and Christ that saves anyone who believes in him with all their heart! Christ and Messiah mean the same thing!

Salvation is for those who believe! We are believers! Salvation is IN nothing else AND in no one else other than in the Lord Jesus Christ and what he 

accomplished on the cross in OUR place, as a sacrifice to fulfill ALL the sacrificial Law to purchase the forgiveness of sins for US, BY HIS suffering on

THAT very cross! We CAN'T DO anything to merit his sacrificial love, the greater love that no man could do, other than give HIS life for us!

 

Salvation for us ONLY comes BY BELIEF!!

 

He that hath the Son, hath life, he that hath not the Son of God, hath not life!

 

We believe and are sure that thou art the Christ, the Son of the LIVING GOD!

 

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Ezekiel 14:21-23 is a clear prophecy of the AD 70 destruction, and closely parallels Revelation 6:8
Compare the sealing in Ezekiel 9 with Revelation 7 also.

The time indicated by Revelation 1:1-3 is soon after the vision and before the destruction. Try reading with that understanding.



Rev. 6 is the lead up to the Resurrection/Wrath of God, at the end of the tribulation of those who
"Would be killed" for the Word of God and the testimony of Jesus during the Trib, just as those waiting in Heaven for vengeance were killed.

Ezekiel 14 goes no further than the Captivity, that I see.

Death = pestilence?
Not a "clear" reference by any stretch.

What is clear, is the timetable in Rev.5-7.

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I apologize I put the wrong scripture reference in one of my post 143 please go back and reread it with the correct book and chapter Zachariah 14.

Ok, got it.

I see it as teaching the opposite of the renewal of sacrifice.

I see it as saying that everyone's own pot, in their own house, is now sacred, and everyone a priest, taking his priestly portion from his own pot.
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Ok, got it.

I see it as teaching the opposite of the renewal of sacrifice.

I see it as saying that everyone's own pot, in their own house, is now sacred, and everyone a priest, taking his priestly portion from his own pot.

I agree. It means, as far as I can see, that EVERYTHING is holy unto God in that time-not just the holy items in the temple, but ALL pots and bowls everywhere will be holy before the Lord, all set apart and anctified to the service of God. Interesting to note, as well, that upon the bells of the horses, it says HOLINESS UNTO THE LORD, because horses were an unclean animal under the law, but here, even the horses are holy unto God.

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